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hey everyone, as I am from the UK and now the Pandemic is slowly (hopefully) going away, I am wondering where the political future lies... 

How long will Boris last? Will Labour take over? Will a new party form that will challenge the Cons/Lab dominance?



   
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I wonder too, but sometimes I also don't want to know because of the current trajectory we are taking. I live in hope though. But even if it seems it won't ever change, making the effort to educate others and help them understand the importance of voting and campaigning and supporting the causes you believe in are powerful actions in helping to create that change as well.

My belief is things are changing. The  poltical narrative and landscape is changing, albeit slowly, but it is changing. Sometimes the way things change are not always what you expect. The conservatives may remain in power but may be forced to change, in order to deal with the New political landscape. Eventually running away and ignoring certain issues will only work for so long, and they can no longer shift the blame onto other parties when they have not been in power for a decade. But also keep an eye on Scotland.



   
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Scotland, I have SUCH high hopes for Scotland! ? 



   
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I'm going to post here so people who are from the UK or want to follow the UK stuff, can read what's happening, as I am not aware of any further discussion in the community about the UK's situation at all.

A lot of stuff has been happening and it's been pretty grim, especially concerning how collectively we are transitioning around the world.

I don't know if anyone knows the history of politics in the UK, or what the past decade even represents. 

A false narrative has been constructed which says Labour (the opposition) caused the global financial crisis and bankrupted the country when in power previously, and therefore cannot be trusted ever again to run the country, and this has been spun by the media over and over.

So for the past decade starting in 2010 when the Conservatives took over, we have had trumpism politics (populism, and right-wing nationalism), and this continued to further peak with Brexit in 2016 and has continued even further throughout 2021.

We have no way to change this as of right now. Too many people are voting for the conservatives and not even by a little bit. 

Everything that has been worse, started getting increasingly worse from 2010 when the Conservatives got back into power, and the UK has become increasingly more divided, with more people who are selfish, greedy, and immoral. I have never witnessed such bitterness and darkness in people until the Conservatives took over in 2010. Their policies coupled with the media spin and propaganda, have made many people I know turn into very cruel and hateful people. They have been brainwashed by the lies, and will overlook and turn a blind eye to the constant ongoing sleaze, cronyism and corruption by our conservative government.  Nobody seems to care, and those of us that do care, are isolated and alone, and are unable to challenge a system that has now been rigged in favour of the Conservatives.

Right now, I would say we are in peak cronyism, corruption, and sleaze, all magnified since they won again in 2019 with a huge majority and have been in-charge of managing the pandemic in the UK. There are revelations being unearthed by the ex Chief advisor to Prime Minister Johnson, Dominic Cummings, about the way the Conservatives have badly handled the pandemic and caused many unnecessary deaths. But as with all the other sleaze and corruption we have seen, I would not be surprised if it is just swept under the rug and forgotten.

Here is a summary of recent revelations:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57254915

If anyone has any positive prediction for the future of the UK, I am all ears.

 

 



   
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You know what? Don't reply to my post above about this. I am incredibly angry about so many things right now, it probably isn't the best time. 

I think I am going to take a break from the forum for a while.

Apologies.



   
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@luminous. It's okay and right to be angry and no need to apologize.  The UK is in for major change for the better. So many are upset. My husband and I were talking about it yesterday  -- Scotland, Wales, Greater London and many others are sick of the conservatives and their lies and deceptions. 



   
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Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

@luminous. It's okay and right to be angry and no need to apologize.  The UK is in for major change for the better. So many are upset. My husband and I were talking about it yesterday  -- Scotland, Wales, Greater London and many others are sick of the conservatives and their lies and deceptions. 

Thanks Jeanne!

I needed to cool off for a few days. The stuff that was being revived in the news regarding all the corruption had reignited my anger and frustration at the Conservatives.

I had asked my angel answers Oracle cards about whether there will be a Labour government in the near future and the Yes card jumped out. I certainly think it's possible for that to happen, but when I look at how well the Conservatives have so many people brainwashed over the years, I really then question if that is true. But it's hard for me to get a clear reading on the outcome because I am too emotionally attached. I think the angels are telling me to let go on this one. But it's a difficult one.

I would also take a progressive coalition of all the progressive parties in government too. Anything other than the Conservatives and right-wing nationalism. It really feels like it's borderline fascism at times.

 



   
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This is why younger people in the UK need to vote:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/general-election-maps-shows-massive-17492900

The difference between the young and old is huge.

Unfortunately in the UK, especially in England, many young people are unmotivated to vote because they feel their vote does not count. So the older generation 65 and older continue to vote conservative - wanting to keep everything the same - no changes. They are also are the age group that are more inclined to believe the the predominantly right wing tabloids in the UK and fake news sources on facebook. 

But not all over 60s are like this. There are a few, and yes these are unfortunately a minority in England, who are very progressive and liberal - my dad is one of those people. But I would say, a large part of that came from them having more awareness of the issues happening in the country. These people are better at discerning fact from fiction but sadly this is a big problem in the majority of over 65s and they are also more inclined to believe the lies the Conservatives say because they take what they say as the gospel truth. 

It's a huge divisive issue and it's one that played its part in Brexit as well. 

I hope more young people are motivated to vote in the future, and I hope those who did not vote in 2019 will be more motivated to in the 2024 election.

 



   
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I thought things might get better in the UK politics wise, but it seems it is taking a turn for the worse. 
 
A real low point in the UK recently, we have just had a new news channel added to our free-to-air news channels called "GB News" which has  been created with the intention of peddling right-wing garbage much like Fox News - in fact many are saying it is the perfect UK emulation of Fox News.
 
Here in the UK our media already is heavily biased to the right on the political spectrum, with many of the tabloids outnumbering those that are more centrist or left leaning. This is also sadly why in the past decade the progressive political centre has not been able to get its voice heard and win an election, and why we have had a large growth in populism, nationalism, and dare I say it, fascism.
 
There is no accountability for the lying, corrupt, and deceitful actions of our politicians, and now with the addition of this new Fox News style news channel, this is going to get even worse.
 
I am so frustrated living in the UK right now. So many people support this really bitter and divisive type of politics. Anyone that challenges it and disagrees is called a lefty/snowflake/Marxist/woke/traitor and they get attacked like they are a major threat to their life, and say things like "communists want to destroy western society", "the woke brigade want to cancel our culture", and yet these people have won everything - they have had the conservatives in power for decade, they got Brexit, and the media leans favourably right to their views. Yet they still play victim.
 
Right now, I feel like I am living under a fascist state almost. I know that sounds extreme, but it feels like it's everywhere and this has become normalised. 
 
It is so isolating to feel like more people than don't actually support this, and I get made to increasingly feel like I am wrong to oppose this and I am wrong to not want to join in attacking progressive values. 
 
Even in some spiritual circles of people I used to follow and speak to in the UK have become pro Boris Johnson and pro right-wing. It's also now spread over into other areas of my life too, such as on computer tech forums I frequently visit. I can't look at social media either without seeing it everywhere. I have so many times wanted to say something and give my opinion but I have not and have held back. I want to speak my mind but I know these people will never agree with me and so it feels like a waste of energy. 
 
The UK feels so lost and hopeless. I can't see anything good until we experience some form of misery and learn to course correct, otherwise this will continue for a long time.
 


   
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@luminous 

I can't even imagine all that has transpired for your country in just a few short years. Many in our forum live in US red states and can share  some of your pain.  I think it would be a good idea to shed a lot of light on the UK during our weekly Circle of Light Meditations. 

I am sending you a big hug and hope.  If the US can ditch Trump, we all can have hope for the UK too.

 



   
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