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I have been meditating and scanning and last nights tasking warrants a short post. I am getting a sort of map of what is going on, re Trumpgate. I think that the fightback by Trump and his gang is about to go to stage two. I had mentioned that Trump was considering using his presidential powers, to negate the various investigations, and Mueller. This is going gladiatorial and is now going higher. What we will see emerging is a sort of horrible Gladiatorial struggle, between left and right, that is going to cause huge damage. It is now clear that some of the right wing accusations, re pre-election activities of Clinton and Obama, were not exactly untrue. They were  at the edges of legality, I think, or past it.  Add to this, the various attempts to use secret intelligence info to disrupt and blacken some Democratic politicians, and the persistent accusations of hidden sex scandals, and also the mirror image operations by the democrats, backing Mueller, (who now has substantial evidence, witnesses, and a list of arrest warrants to be issued, and we have the mother of all scandals, engulfing both sides. ) I see a mutual muck raking and mud slinging contest, that is going to do huge damage to the American constitution and public confidence in the political system. It might explain the curious vacuum when we try on here to understand the strange way in which Trump clings to power, but slowly sort of fades. The mid term elections are going to be the first big battle ground of this offensive. The Repugs will have unlimited funds and resources. It is going to be very nasty. I am getting glimpses of a stalemate in the senate and Congress, and a general disaster of public confidence. I still see a lot of Republicans losing their seats, or not standing again. But also some collateral damage to the Dems. Anybody else getting any of this. ? general feelings and glimpses of the mid terms? . Team input welcome. 

PS. A friend said to me about the site: "What are you guys?....The psychic wing of the Democratic party?."


   
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Z, I concur, this caused my 'yellow alert' comment. 

One of the reasons the Democratic party was in such disarray was an outgrowth of the Occupy Wall Street movement. It was widely understood by the Left of the Left that the Democrats are corporatists and thus beholdened to moneyed powers just as badly as the Rethuglicans.  Sanders championed the Occupy perspective. Dems split down the middle between liberal corporate technocrats and Sanders 'Democratic Socialsts' scandinavian style. So when proof comes out that the Clintons et al were quite beholdened to moneyed interests, the Dem party will likely crack apart.  The DCC (internal party structure) is riven between those two sides as embodied by Perez (corporate) and Ellison ("socialist")--it's a real fustercluck.  But the Republican party is riven in a similar way between the corporatist party, and the hardline right.  Effectively, we need four parties, but the system only allows two.  

I *think* this period of manure hitting the rotating oscillator is probably necessary for our growth as a society.  It's part of that cultural stage development we've talked about.  But it won't be pretty.  IMHO we have to be busted back to basics, with neighbors having to take care of neighbors in order to build basic trust back up from the ground of reality.

All societies pendulate between Reformation and Revolution.  We've hit Revolution. Cue a certain Beatles song...

-R1-

 


   
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To echo what R1 said - this is what many of us are referring to as "The Circular Firing Squad of the Left". The Left is divided. Very divided. Those closer to the middle want to use old ways of doing things, i.e., no revolution, be polite, be politically correct, and use "do no harm" in a twisted way to silence others. (For example, I'm boycotting my local Womens' March today because our local organizers demanded that everyone edit their signs to make it a "family friendly event". To which I replied "Fuck you and your tone policing bullshit. Here's hoping your kids are at home if the tear gas falls.") Then you have those of us further left on the spectrum, who wish it wouldn't come to violence but suspect it might have to.  And so round and round, we snipe at each other while the Right gets everything done that they want to.


   
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Laura I echo your sentiment. I am further left than the democratic party is but I always consider myself a reasonable person when it comes to policies I support. I absolutely do not advocate violence, I think massive scale non violent resistance has the best chance of effecting change. However I am also not naive and realize that violence may result anyway. If the politicians in this country did not take private money in campaign contributions alot of the problems we are seeing now would not exist. The government does not work for the people, it only cares about it's donors. I always want to go back to basics with people, appeal to the common humanity most people possess. Labels are divisive, if we focus on promoting arguments and policy solutions that can genuinely help people I think we can win, hopefully at least. 


   
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Laura F-- you read Ken Wilber, Boomeritis?


   
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I keep hearing “a pox on both your houses” and for some reason Macbeth keeps rising into my thoughts! I’ve always loved Shakespeare but this moment in America feels like a Shakespearean tragedy in the making. Where everyone ends up dead onstage and someone has to deliver a soliliquy.

This release the memo bull really makes me uneasy... others?


   
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Yes, Fran, very uneasy. The latest releases of the Simpson testimony feels just like when you lift up a rotted log and all the multilegged insects hiding underneath scurry away from the light.  Ugh, ugh, ugh.  That is the sensation I get. -R1-


   
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R1 - Not familiar with that author/book. I do listen to Sam Harris' Waking Up Podcast, even though I frequently disagree with him and occasionally find myself screaming at my phone while listening (lol). And then after Sam Harris I have to listen to Pod Save America, just to lift my spirits a bit. And I also keep seeing people in the administration as insects - mostly cockroaches, with Cheetolini being like a New York City roach - fat and impossible to eradicate.


   
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A pox on both your houses.  Powerful line to keep hearing in your head.  From Romeo & Juliet, a revenge play.  Revenge kills everyone.  In this case, it was uttered by the friend of one of the two sides -- Mercutio as he lay mortally wounded.  Jump in to someone else's fight  - just because you are friends with one side --  and you die too. 

 I don't like the term Democrat anymore. Want to use the word Progressives.  Unless you've got a better one for me. I'm open. 

Regarding Zoron's friends who say we are a wing of the Democratic party.  Yikes, no.  We are a wing of the light workers party. We are a wing of the Truth Party.  My original interest in  putting up predictions was about saving our earth. I saw bad things coming for the earth - had real visions of the future that I knew were going to come. I wanted people to know and learn to navigate their way.  

It got political when the Republicans ran a lie campaign to keep polluting.  I saw Hillary's candidacy as a compromise. I wanted Bernie, but she got the nomination. And compared to DT, she was infinitely better. Still I get uncomfortable when people put the dems and the republicans in the same category.  They are not comparable.  Not even close. And it muddles the issues to lump them together. The Republicans seize upon that idea and then Hillary's emails get jacked up to be worse or equivalent to Trump's treason,  lies, racism, nationalism, assault on women, money laundering, bullying, and all the dark destructive policies that he favors. 

My hope is for the trends I have seen coming  - a new party of light workers  growing beneath the surface. I don't know what they will call themselves, but they are forming now and rising soon.  Heart warriors building a more beautiful world. 

But divisiveness among progressives weakens them. My ancestor, Robert the Bruce, united the Scots so they could free themselves from English tyranny. We need to unite but perhaps this is the time to figure out what we stand for.


   
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Hi, Zoron is laughing. We are NOT the psychic wing of the Democratic party. But we are a sort of psychic prediction tank for the progressive wing of Humans!. I agree with Jeanne. The UK sense of humour was in play when my friend said that. I do think, that this site has on the "Crew" (registered members) a solid base of progressive people. I would go as far as to say it is a "Neo-Con free Zone". Most of the foreign members would have voted for Bernie if they had had to. But they would not have been able to, anyway, as Hilary screwed up the DNC candidate selection process that was essentially illegal. (law suits still rolling on that one). Hilery was also not a "People's candidate", like Bernie. Most reasonable people felt that Bernie "Belonged" to them. Hilary never had that kind of buy-in, and came across as the corporate financed main stream candidate. she lost, by a very narrow margin. An American tragedy. Such tragedies are now shaping American history. I remember, when I watched the election of GW Bush, looking with feelings of horror, at the unfolding story of the electoral ballots, the "Hanging chads", and the distraught official who was responsible and had screwed up. I had an instant flash: "This would eventually lead to some ruthless right wing administrations, beyond Bush, and would eventually lead to the use of nuclear weapons. I was horrified. Most of that then happened, and the nuke bits are to come, if we do not do anything about the situation. In fact, the right wing, extreme Zionist administration in Israel is now in a situation of serious danger and  on the brink of getting entangled in nuclear dangers. Plus in North Korea. I think this is the key danger month. The internal faction struggles there are reaching critical mass. We are not in any way out of the crisis there yet. I am going to do a special post on this. 


   
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 Most of that then happened, and the nuke bits are to come, if we do not do anything about the situation. 

Yep. Thing is, I believe *we* can do something about the situation, something in the noosphere, something in the way consciousness interacts with nascent timelines. 

There are tales, apocryphal tales, of 'a town being spared if there are seven righteous men,' or fire burning *around* a town where a group of women are praying.  There are also studies of groups of Transcendental Meditators practicing associated with significant reductions in U.S. homicide and urban violent crime rates during an intervention period. 

I believe, quite literally, that dire fates can be avoided *if we set our minds to it.* 

That begins with clearing our minds, hearts and spirits of anger -- then upholding the vision of peace.

We are mightily tempted into rage and hatred...which only contributes to the darker timelines.

-R1-


   
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One of my top students, Yaeko, had a dream that there will be an outbreak in the water supply, probably in Boston area. She said the government would not identify what was going on, but it was an act of terror.  When I hear this kind of thing, if it's going to happen, and I hear that the government isn't talking, then I wonder if the government is involved.  But that's enough for now. The attack hasn't even happened.  Yaeko had predicted several of the terrorist attacks in Europe.  She's got a sensitivity for terror attacks. 


   
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