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[Closed] The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning - Rebuilding a Progressive America in the Future

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@lovendures -- I didn't even consider it as any kind of premonition or anything.  Just kind of letting thoughts drift into my head, until I read Laura's post.  I'm also thinking that no matter what kind of shape the country is in, there's no way trump will be satisfied with a quiet, subdued inauguration. He'd be spiking all kinds of balls, which makes me thing it can't be trump. But that just be wishful thinking too. 



   
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@allyn I'd like to say that if we've done any recovery from Trump 8 years from now, we'll be lucky. Even if he's not re-elected, the damage he has done will take a long time to undo. And don't forget all those federal judges he put in place. 

I want to say also that I am in a complete panic, worried sick about Ruth Bader Ginsburg.  He cannot have another SC nominee. Cannot.



   
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A democratic president and Congress can expand the federal judiciary. Carter did it in 1978. Doing so would dilute the nuts that trump/mcconnell pushed through, plus the really bad ones can be impeached and removed. Ditto with SCOTUS (Kavangaugh may have lied under oath, he could be removed). Plus, if RBG survives and the dems can hold the white house for 8 years, maybe we'll all live to see a totally different court. Will it happen? Dunno, but it's not impossible. It's what I hold on to that gives me hope.



   
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@lynnventura regarding the SCOTUS.....if the Democrats get a 60% in the House and Senate, along with a President, we can vote to have 11 members representing us, or 13. It’s been done before. RBG is going to be just fine.



   
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@jeanne-mayell I have been thinking about the timeline for rebuilding and it occurred to me today that for change to spread and truly be felt throughout the collective, it has to occur at multiple levels (local, state, and federal). *That* is what is going to take the time. On a purely practical level, some governors, senators, etc. are not up for re-election until 2022 - 2024 - but on a spiritual level and a transformational level, that will take time - people will have to slowly but surely come out of survival mode to rebuild, and waves of change will come in their due time, as each successive opportunity arises. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

I like your new title. It's fitting for the transformational coming. I remember hearing this phrase, "The Great Turning" for the first time in a class with Joanna Macy years ago. I remember knowing she spoke direct truth.  Like you Jeanne, she knew we were headed for quite a reckoning. To be truthful, I wished for a better outcome and I remained hopeful, but at that point in time, the grass was high, the forest dead, and the hot wind was blowing. It was fire weather, and I too saw the coming fire as inevitable. She was very matter of fact about it, and her primary purpose seemed to be in galvanizing the heart warriors for the aftermath building. I believe she was successful!

The inevitable collapse of the dysfunctional system of power over others, power over beings, power over the Earth, is necessary if we are to grow as spiritual beings (If you don't like the phrase "spiritual beings" then supplement it with humanity). I am hopeful that what is happening now with politics, pandemics, and polar bears is the natural ending of a destructive and limiting period of time, bent towards disconnection.  We are Now living through, witnessing the Great Fall, of our old way of being. It wasn't enough! We wanted more.The scarcity model for this world is being transformed. We are moving from the "never enough" to the "enough". Enough! That's Enough!

The seeds were spread and they will be bursting forth after the cleansing. Fret not, for we are the witnesses. We are the Critical mass that helped achieve the place we are in at the moment. Alas, we are in the eye of the fire storm, and some of you are fire fighters, putting out the flames. Some of you are builders, readying for the call. Others are designers, coming up with ideas. Some are the system architects, others are the healers, still others are the visionaries. All of us are witnesses holding space of healing.  The beauty and power that we hold inside as spiritual beings will help us to move on, rebuild, and rise up to a new humanity. One that is inclusive not exclusive. One that is empowering, not de-powering. One that is willing to lift up because when one rises, we all rise. The transformation into community will bring about Connection. It has begun here! It has begun all over the world. Like Jeanne said, or someone else on this thread, it move underground like electricity. You can't see it, but you can feel it.  I am so very hopeful because you all are so very beautiful! In the words of Joanna Macy,

“Active Hope is waking up to the beauty of life on whose behalf we can act. We belong to this world.”  

Who are you? You are a child of the Universe and you came here to Love.



   
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@timo

Oh Timo

No one has ever said it all and so beautifully. So grateful you pop in from time to time.

We need your bright heart with us all now ???



   
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@timo Your words are so comforting and yet empowering I am crying, so moved I am from the beauty that’s emanating from them. Thank you.



   
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I have seen several times since this morning proof that backlash is starting to form against Fox News for their deceptive broadcasting regarding the pandemic: 

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/washington-state-nonprofit-files-lawsuit-seeking-to-stop-fox-news-from-broadcasting-false-information-about-the-coronavirus/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-moguls-rupert-and-lachlan-murdoch-stockpile-attorneys-against-coronavirus-lawsuits?ref=home

and last but not least, the following was trending on twitter today: 

#FoxNewsLiedAsPeopleDied

 

All I can say is, it’s about time that something changed and someone challenged their irresponsible behavior. 



   
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@triciact, I am with you. For well over a year now, my "spidey senses" have told me DJT will not be reelected. Also agree with you re: Biden. His VP will be a most important choice, as she will take over leading this country after he has been in office only a short time.



   
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