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Religion and Spirituality: Beliefs and Practices that Shape and Often Transform Our Personal, National and Political World

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@michele-b your sentiments are deeply kind and perceptive! I feel your strength and beauty with every word! From one heart warrior to another, I humbly bow to your insightful awareness. We are in a time of great sadness, And a time of great awakening. Much grounding is needed! Your beautiful spirit and the love you so readily share is like an anchor for many ships in a stormy sea. We are all Sophia’s messengers bringing forth that sparkle of essence that lights the light, that lights the light, that lights the light. I want to thank you for this topic. It is my favorite! 



   
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Deep blessings and humble gratitude. Your post of recognition of shared energies and gifts was deeply moving.

During challenging times even the strongest need responsive recognition. May you always feel that as well as share it so beautifully.

@michele-b your sentiments are deeply kind and perceptive! I feel your strength and beauty with every word! From one heart warrior to another, I humbly bow to your insightful awareness. We are in a time of great sadness, And a time of great awakening. Much grounding is needed! Your beautiful spirit and the love you so readily share is like an anchor for many ships in a stormy sea. We are all Sophia’s messengers bringing forth that sparkle of essence that lights the light, that lights the light, that lights the light. I want to thank you for this topic. It is my favorite! 



   
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I just discovered this thread.  It is lovely @Michelle-b .  Thank you!

I am enjoying reading your posts and the responses.



   
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Blending the thread on national politics and spirituality with my own thread here on International events/politics or perhaps more widely--cultural or societal beliefs and personal experiences as influences on our politics.

Religion and spiritually are deep seated and experienced belief systems that form a cultural referencing point for looking and explaining our world and our place in it. Why are we here? What are we meant to be and do? And even why do others (i.e. those we perceive as not only "not us" but more often "not like us" and other cultural and organizing belief systems might be seen as fitting in here--such as politics.

iThis not truly a part of their religion or belief stem (nless say a deeply Bible or Koran based religious system were to take and use very specific passages --say an eye for an eye and whatever creates the foundation for Muslims who act out in revenge violence) thought and practice.

People who interweave politics into other aspects of their belief systems are just acting and reacting (much like the computer search algorithms previously brought up on this thread) from their human side not their original or true nature of God/goddess/Divine/good side.

We all mix and match our belief systems to express and even to release for many people their emotions as well as their beliefs.

A truly atheistic or truly practicing agnostic or full practicing any other belief based system to live by would not have such a need except in a fully anthropological way as in ordering the rules of the campsite so everyone sitting around the fire got fair based amounts of time to warm themsemselves or lets say cook their game meat after "accidentally" discovering that raw game meat made them ill and cooked did not.

If we perecive things as coming from spiritually guided principles in any sense of the word spiritual we always must ask ourselves"is this in the highest sense of doing good for the good of all" or is this justcme expressing as me with all of my own personal wants and needs having nothing whatsoever about caring for all others?  In other words does the "divine godhead" take sides?

Or is this just let's say a very human algorithm going to the most obvious, most common search page of our most frequently acted upon results from another part of the system?
And we all need to look perhaps at our own "gut feelings " our "dreams" and our "vsions" as well as our "intuitions" with a similar lens.

 

Blended with this from @luminous

Thank you all in both threads for such interesting discussions! ?

"What is the deal with spirituality mixing with QAnon and right-wing Politics?  U.S. 2020 November Election– Presidential & Congressional – Welcome to Our Forum!

https://www.jeannemayell.com/community/u-s-presidential-candidates-for-2020/what-is-the-deal-with-spirituality-mixing-with-qanon-and-right-wing-politics/



   
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Thank you for those links. They are both so life-affirming and empowering. I needed them this morning. ?

This thread resonates truly and deeply with me. Thank you for starting it.



   
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Oh thank you so much! It came to me as a topic and the words flowed even tippy tapping on a cell phone. But i worried about negative receptions by those who seek psychic but are not interested in anything spiritual much less religious.

Spirit guidance has pushed me more and more to avoid those things separating mankind and one another and to only follow my focus on holding space for others in the light but as throughput time, control and power and ego which leads us to politics as well as our base aspects of fighting for a place at the tribal fire are stronger now than frankly during the election.

We must each tread wisely but seek always to live the best and highest part of ourselves in the light.

The low tide reveals so much of the oceans depths and actions but the high tide is so equally lovely and powerful.

Let the sun as well as the moon guide our wisdom and our understandings.?

@michele-b

Thank you for those links. They are both so life-affirming and empowering. I needed them this morning. 

This thread resonates truly and deeply with me. Thank you for starting it.



   
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Posted by: @michele-b

And we all need to look perhaps at our own "gut feelings " our "dreams" and our "vsions" as well as our "intuitions" with a similar lens.

@michele-b and @lowtide

Yes, this thread resonates deeply with me, too. Thank you both so much for your posts and thoughts on this. It makes so much sense and meshes with my recent thoughts that we are all so much a product of our culture and that can influence us so deeply (in good and not-so-good ways.) It is so important, as Michele said, to view our own feelings and intuitions (as well as those of others we encounter) with the lens as she described.

I am catching up on this thread and the QAnon stuff -- I also have some friends and acquaintances  who also share thoughts/info on being spiritually awakened right now, but they are full-on down the QAnon rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. It is really disturbing to see, especially in comparison to the forum here. Michele's and others posts above really help to clarify the differences and how we can view things to understand and keep our own compass clear.

Not sure if any of that made sense (struggling to phrase it the right way), but suffice it to say - thank you! You are saying what I could not put words to and it is important.



   
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Yes yes yes! You expressed your thoughts and feelings beautifully!

Gratitude and blessings to you dear cc21.

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@michele-b and @lowtide

Yes, this thread resonates deeply with me, too. Thank you both so much for your posts and thoughts on this. It makes so much sense and meshes with my recent thoughts that we are all so much a product of our culture and that can influence us so deeply (in good and not-so-good ways.) It is so important, as Michele said, to view our own feelings and intuitions (as well as those of others we encounter) with the lens as she described.

I am catching up on this thread and the QAnon stuff -- I also have some friends and acquaintances  who also share thoughts/info on being spiritually awakened right now, but they are full-on down the QAnon rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. It is really disturbing to see, especially in comparison to the forum here. Michele's and others posts above really help to clarify the differences and how we can view things to understand and keep our own compass clear.

Not sure if any of that made sense (struggling to phrase it the right way), but suffice it to say - thank you! You are saying what I could not put words to and it is important.



   
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I am really glad you made this thread because this resonates with me in many ways.
 
My own persona journey through spirituality actually began more with religion - despite my Great Grandfather appearing in my dreams before my religious exploration.
 
At a very low point in my life 3 years ago with my illness, I woke up to the face of Jesus appearing in my mind so strongly that I actually thought I was hallucinating. During that morning it lasted several hours. The image wouldn't go. I saw Jesus looking at me a little sad with his arms open. No words said, but I could feel and sense that he was asking why I haven't come to him. I wasn't religious at all at the time, but felt I needed to explore and understand what I had experienced. So I decided to explore Christianity and started reading the bible, reading articles, attending online Church etc. 
 
Several months later, I had a dream where a statue of an angel stood before me, with its arms opened wide also. I woke up from that dream feeling very confused. I felt the need to look at prayers to guardian angels under Christianity, but for many denominations, most were prohibited because of rigid beliefs about only praying to God and Jesus. This didn't seem right to me, and then I discovered Catholicism, which did believe in prayers to angels saints, and this opened my eyes to Christian spirituality and mysticism. Through this, I discovered a vast wealth of material about miracles and apparitions which touched me deeply, namely: Fatima and Lourdes.
 
For a while, I was pretty sure I was going to become a Catholic. I didn't agree with everything they believed, but the spiritual practices of that faith was more what I was looking for. So I purchased a rosary and I began praying the rosary weekly, and in my daily prayers I prayed for the help of the Archangels and Mary for my struggles and tribulations. I also became somewhat involved in a Catholic prayer group, which was also comforting.
 
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After a year into exploring Catholicism, I began to realise, that increasingly, it wasn't enough for me in helping me to find the spiritual flexibility and answers I wanted for my own life - particularly in understanding my spiritual experiences of my Great grandfather appearing in my dreams years earlier, the lights flickering around me at home, objects moving, images I was frequently seeing in my head, what was said to my mother about my life during a clairvoyant reading she had years ago - far too many questions that I could not find sufficient answers to in Catholicism alone. So I decided to explore Spirtualism.
 
As part of my introduction to spirtulism, I decided to read several books such as: Spiritual Diary by Emanuel Swedenborg, Nosso Lar, The Secret, The Hermetica, The Gnostic Gospels, The Four Agreements, material from Edgar Cayce, Neale Donald Walsch etc. I also began practicing some light meditations, tarot, as well daily readings with Angel and Energy Oracle cards by Doreeen Virtue and Sandra Anne Taylor. This really opened up a lot more for me with the angels, and this together with dreams, lights flickering, objects moving, images in my mind, I have learned a lot more. But there is still much for me to explore and learn.
 
Right now, I am still learning and exploring energy chakras and energy crystals. My mother also became a reiki master a year ago (she felt a calling to change profession) and she has also helped me in many ways with my spiritual growth and spiritual healing and much more.
 
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