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The sargeant at arms can detain those in contempt of congress, but then any charges have to be filed by the DOJ. Barr is obviously not going to do anything and all that will accomplish at this point is to give the GOP more to go off of. Woth the entire justice department acting as the personal Trump police, the only real move they have is to go on as they are, keep forcing story changes by the GOP, and then file contempt charges once the DOJ is working properly again. 

On the bright side, Donald "They need to have public testimony" Trump is now screaming that that the have no business making it public so progress is being made. The truly scary part is CNN interviewed cultists, I mean DT supporters, yesterday and asked if Trump shot someone in the street would they still vote for him. The response was "well it depends why he shot them" 



   
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@lenor, I generally listen to the same media outlets as you, but if they start playing any audio or videos of Twitler speaking, it gets turned off.   It's an assault on my senses.  I also read the Washington Post.  It's so hard to keep track of what's happening, because T's gotten away with so much.  He should have been thrown out two years ago.  I heard a Washington Post journalist mention how hard they work to get their stories correct, and how exhausting it all is.  

What astounds me is this allegiance so many of these clowns -- Mulvaney, Rudy, the Rs in Congress, and the like -- have to T.  I mean, their stupidity and arrogance blows my mind.  Twitler uses and abuses people.   So it's got to come down to $$$.  And T. will throw anyone under the bus -- probably even his own kids -- if he needs to save his own butt.  T. just said that he "barely knew" Sondland.  A few days ago the Ghouliani associate who was involved in the campaign to pressure Ukraine into aiding T's political campaign, Lev Parnas, decided to talk with congressional impeachment investigators after becoming angry that T. denied knowing him.  I'd heard that the WH/Congressional Rs are looking for a fall guy, and they're zeroing in on Mulvaney, Ghouliani or Sondland.

And SOMEBODY needs to explain to me what in the hell is up with Lindsay G.



   
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@deetoo

Lindsay G. is up for reelection.  They said on the news that J. Bolton is hinting for immunity, and he 'has a story to tell'. I too can't listen to trump.  I know I've been gripy, but I'm just so worried about this whole thing. Sorry.



   
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@elaineg

If Bolton wants immunity then his testimony will sink Trump to a point they have no choice but to remove him. He only asks for immunity if he, himself, acted to cover it up because they dont want him-they only want Trump/Pence and their remajning loyalists here. If Bolton specifically helped the coverup, he knows everything and his illegal actions can be proven to confirm his story. 

If all this is true, the WH is shitting their pants and trying their damnedest to shut Bolton up. They can only smear him to a point and Trump cant distance himself from it like it trying to now.



   
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Under Florida bankruptcy law a primary domicile is exempt from bankruptcy seizure. Right there is the problem he missed - Mar-A-Lago is a functioning business and may be subject to seizure. He and his lawyers are definitely not the brightest lights on the fairy light string.



   
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When your enemy is sinking, don't throw them a life preserver. It's frustrating, but they're letting the GOP and Trump sink themselves. 



   
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@triciact

There's a small "jail" that holds one person. It's basically a room with a bed and bath in the basement of the House. There literally would be no room for the multiples of people that would be needed to be held. Remember - these are NOT criminal hearings - they are Congressional malpractice and misbehavior hearings that do have punishments attached that fall under the purview of the Legislative Branch, although afterward criminal charges may be warranted. Those crimes would be tried in the criminal justice system, which falls under the Executive Branch.



   
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The criminal justice system falls under the executive branch??? I don't think so...

There are three branches, each to serve as a check against the other two. The judicial branch is not under control of the executive, although I will concede that Twitler et al want everyone to think that.



   
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@laura-f

Actually it does partly. The judges are obviously under the juducial system, however, police and prosecuters are executive branch. The ability to arrest, detain, investigate, and file charges falls solely under the executive branch. The judiciary's only job is to interpret the laws created by legislative. 



   
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In my humble non-psychic opinion, I believe there will be new laws created over the next... say10 years, which will rectify some of the gaping holes discovered during this dark time.  

One of the first ones will be a requirement to show tax returns.  It will be interesting to see if the next group in charge will be willing to create rules that benefit the country, not simply the party in charge.



   
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