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When does a vision constitute a bonified psychic vision?

(@jeanne-mayell)
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This question has been begging for discussion for years.  So let's discuss it. 

This topic is a huge field that encompasses the vast unexplored region of conscienceless. Let's dig into it.

I think about this issue every time someone posts a vision that appears to be coming true. I ask myself, where did they get that vision? Usually it feels to me that they are getting from somewhere in the collective consciousness before it surfaces in news where we then count it as a hit. 

Some of the more vague visions, like, "I see Albert Einstein, or Donald Trump, or Zelensky, or Putin, might be too vague to be useful, but as long as they are coming from someone I know has a trustworthy track record, I can be sure they are going to serve as meaningful information.  

On this website, where we have groups of people meditating together, I allow us to post vague predictions because, taken together with other people's visions, they form a body of information about the future. That's why we try to group the visions before posting.  It seems that several people are seeing parts of a greater vision. 

Years ago, I noticed that when some of us something mundane like snow in the news, I realized it meant that it was not ordinary snow, but newsworthy snow, like a snow storm that paralyzed a whole region of the U.S.

I look forward to commenting further on this topic as others weigh in. 

 



   
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I believe there was a prediction of summer camps in the news. A man with a gun was shot and killed as he tried to enter one

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/quick-thinking-staffers-save-camp-children-suspected-gunman/story?id=85369779



   
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@baba @journeywithme2. I don't mean this as any kind of criticism of Baba AT ALL.  I greatly admire her gift and willingness to share it here.  I'm getting concerned about what constitutes a hit though although I don't see many who share my concern which is understandable since my concern comes from the fact that I am a researcher who taught research methodology before retirement so defining one's terms is critical.  The Problem:  Yes, Baba obviously picked up on something that she didn't know about.  However, Deion Sanders had already been in the news for several days.  Jeanne, maybe you could provide some guidance on this.



   
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@seeker4 Don’t worry about asking questions. I’m not at all offended. I don’t live in the US and don’t follow sports but it is entirely possible that the person’s name entered my consciousness when reading about something else. I still have no clue who he is or what he does other than something to do with football. 



   
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@seeker4 @journeywithme2 @baba @jeanne-mayell

@seeker4 I actually find this a really interesting thought for our group - what constitutes a hit? I, too, am curious to hear Jeanne's take on this. I feel like it might even be worth adding it to the Understanding Prophecy and Consciousness thread? 

I have struggled, sometimes, to see that every hit is accurate. My skeptical brother-in-law's voice pops into my head with the idea of finding what you are already looking for...or, making things fit retroactively. However, I don't want to discount these hits, either. This idea of how consciousness works and how we interpret what we see is an endlessly fascinating mystery! As any of us who have thrown/pulled Tarot cards or done other types of intuiting regularly know, it is often nebulous and reliant on our own sense of calm focus, what resonates with us, etc. A very subjective process, in a way, but also many times very accurate.

I also come from a research background so I totally get your thought process, and it is also why I find this whole idea of intuition so intriguing. It doesn't always have a good, simple explanation (at least to our current minds) and that is unsettling!

Anyway, perhaps more for another thread. Thanks for bringing it up!



   
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@seeker4, thanks for raising this topic.  I struggle with it too, specifically as to how one defines the term  psychic or prediction.  It's confusing to me, insofar as there are so many factors that go into it.  I agree that this might be something we can discuss further in another thread.  



   
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Posted by: @baba

I still have no clue who he is or what he does other than something to do with football. 

In a nutshell, Deion Sanders was a huge NFL football star.  Retired and did tv commentary.  He's in the news because he's now coaching a college team.  Fair amount of news discussion leading up to his debut as a college coach. 



   
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I don’t follow any sports but that sounds like a good synopsis of what he has been up to!



   
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@seeker4  Yes... Deion has been in the news BUT. the news that broke yesterday? came AFTER Baba made her prediction. Oregon totally dismantled the Game train and gave Colorado a "good old fashioned butt kicking, no excuses" as Deion said. This, after being lauded for the incredible wins that occurred prior.

So.. to my way of thinking? yes.. it counts.



   
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@cc21 I have also thought that many things that have been counted as hits have only been so by stretching the meaning of the word a lot. There are several here who get good hits, @baba being one of them (repeatedly and often!), but some of the predictions are also vague enough that almost anything that comes remotely close could be considered a "hit". It bothers me a little, but I generally just shrug it off and move on.



   
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