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(@lenor)
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My aunt went to a psychic many years ago and was told that her husband would die before her at a young age.  I remember my aunt saying how that prediction haunted her everyday and she worried constantly when my uncle went to work. My uncle worked in the coal mines of PA and one day fell off of a coal car, hit his head and died. He was 54. Even after he died, my aunt said she wished she never went to the psychic and talked how that prediction haunted her everyday.



   
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(@enkasongwriter)
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I had a hit on a prediction regarding a Japanese singer passing away, which turned out to be a K-Pop star. I sometimes could predict the deaths of old celebrities. My grandpa passed away in the summer of 2010 while my uncle passed away in early 2013.

As Jeanne said before, when we don't give our psyche a target, our psyche will default to our interests, which lead to me having predictions of Capcom's plans for Mega Man.



   
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As for bad psychics, my very first experience with one around 20 years ago was a very negative experience.  I don't remember exactly what prompted me (probably things going on in my life at the time), but I stopped in at one of these roadside psychic businesses in the city where I was living. I don't remember a whole lot about the experience, but when we got to my love life, the psychic picked up that I was gay.  I'm not the stereotypical or feminine gay male, and she likely picked this up from how I was being vague about the gender of anyone we talked about.  Despite being a tarot reader, she apparently held a very conservative Christian view on homosexuality, and told me that I wasn't really gay, I could change, and some other very negative religious views on homosexuality.  It really bothered me a great deal at the time.

A year or two later, a friend referred me to a psychic tarot reader who did readings out of her home and taped them on audio cassette so I could refer back later.  She was a much better experience.  She was able to tell me a lot about what was going on in my life at the time (and was very accurate), but 20 years later I'm still waiting for a job opportunity she saw coming and for my next significant relationship. ;-)

I joined the Pagan community not long after that, and there has been no lack of great, non-judgemental Tarot readers, and I sometimes go to psychic fairs hosted in the local Pagan shops.  I've discovered a few readers that I really like and look for.  I think they all have strengths and weaknesses.  Some are better with what's going on now and others are more helpful at helping to figure out the future.  Some are good at telling me what I already know, but not so good at synthesizing it. 

As for knowing when people will die.  When I was 12 years old in 1982, I seemed to know the last time I saw my grandfather that it would be the last.  He'd been sick, but not bedridden, and I remember breaking down crying after I left.  When my grandmother died in 2005, I had dreamed a week before that this same grandfather had called me on the phone.  I'd not dreamed of him in decades, and did not realize the reason for the dream until my grandmother died the following week.  My Dad died in 2009 after a year or so long fight with cancer. On the day he died, I woke up crying and somehow knew that was going to be the day.  Last fall, I discovered a friend of mine (and epic crush) from college had passed away.  This was after the fact, but he had come to me in a couple dreams and when I decided to look him up I discovered he'd passed away earlier in the year.



   
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(@jd1960)
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  This subject touched a nerve-about 2 years ago, me and my wife visited a psychic who told us that she would pass on before I would. This person also said that it would not be in the immediate future, but did not give a time. Lately, my wife has been seeing relatives that have passed on in dreams, including her Mother, Grandparents, and our son who died at a young age (that's another story).

  I Don't know for sure if that means anything-but she has been rattled about it. No messages are given- they are only seen frequently in dreams. I wonder if we were not told that, if the dream visitations would still be happening...



   
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@melmystery I loved your whole post, but I wanted to respond to the end of it because it particularly resonated with me.  My dad died of pancreatic cancer the week before I graduated college.  I came home that weekend and had a wicked cold so I was going to stay far away from him, but I just "knew" when I walked into the house that he had, at best, 24 hours.  I used the opportunity to say most of what I wanted to say, but mostly to just be with him.  It wasn't surprising when my mom called the school I was student teaching at that Monday morning.  In fact, i distinctly remember the phone ringing into my classroom and knowing it was going to be my mom - which is odd, because that classroom phone rang incessantly with calls to send kids to the office, schedule changes, etc.

I also knew right before we had to have our Saint Bernard put down - animals are so damn good at hiding their illnesses from us, but I knew she was going to go before the morning we woke up and she couldn't hide it anymore.  There was just something - different.  I remember telling my wife the night before and her telling me she didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.

In both of these instances I got an immediate sense of the last couple of sands in the hour glass, but I was also close with both souls.  I think you need some connection to feel it, and even then - I don't think it's a static enough event to be able to nail down, so if someone told me "You have 12 years to live" I think I would probably brush that off more than "Something is off about you, you should check in with your doctor sooner rather than later."

And I really don't think I could get it from a stranger.

 



   
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One more thing on my dad - maybe a better fit for a spirits thread, but it's a "P.S." to the last post.  Our house has a distinct lack of photos.  We have them, but the artwork has always been a mix of masks my wife has purchased, or artwork from the girls.  About three years ago after a massive wind storm kept my wife and I up most of the night worrying as branches flew out of trees and clobbered our house, the twins came in and slept with us - the first and only time they have done so.  In the morning, the younger twin said she had a vivid dream and "Grandpa Ted" protected our house from being crushed.  She described him perfectly even though I don't have a picture of him up in the house.  When we went outside a massive limb from the tree next to our bedroom had fallen off but had been carried about 50 feet away from the house to land in our driveway.  It was too heavy for the two of us to move ourselves and I had to chainsaw it into smaller logs right there.  How it traveled that far naturally I'll never know, but I like to think the spirit of my father did exactly what my daughter said he did!



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Posted by: @lenor

My aunt went to a psychic many years ago and was told that her husband would die before her at a young age.  I remember my aunt saying how that prediction haunted her everyday and she worried constantly when my uncle went to work. My uncle worked in the coal mines of PA and one day fell off of a coal car, hit his head and died. He was 54. Even after he died, my aunt said she wished she never went to the psychic and talked how that prediction haunted her everyday.

Thanks for sharing your aunt's heartbreaking story. I want to send her healing and love. I want to clear her mind of such pain.

 It's an example of a prediction that was accurate and caused indescribable harm.  A few years ago, I worked with a colleague who years earlier had seen a psychic who told her that if she and her family moved back to her home town, as they had been planning to do, her husband would die.  

Well they did move back to her home town and soon after he became ill with cancer and died.  They were in their late forties with children.

The psychic had implied or said that moving back would cause her husband's death. It is likely that the psychic inserted that cause and effect part of the reading because she picked up his impending death as she was looking into their moving plans, and just made an assumption that the move would cause the death.  But it most likely that she just saw both and made an wrong assumption.

I can understand how someone can make a mistake like that.  People come to you asking if they should make a planned move. You throw some cards or look at an astrological chart and see the devastating future death.  You assume wrongly that the move will cause the death. 

The ability to see a future tragedy does not mean you have the ability to determine cause and effect. 

I met the widow eight years after her husband's death. She could not get over that reading.  She had tried to reject the reading and was angry at psychics because of it.  But it was clear that the reading had continued to haunt her. Once someone tells you something in a reading, it is not easy to get it out of your head. 

I hope people who practice intuitive readings will read these painful stories and think twice before sharing their visions of another's death. It is a different matter when you are dealing with someone close to you, and I leave that to you. 

 



   
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In the spirit of sharing anecdotes about death readings, I share this event.  When I first discovered I could read the Tarot, someone hired me for an office party in the city. A couple came to my table and told me they had a child with a serious illness. They wanted to know what I saw in my cards. I was so new at reading.  I peaked at my cards and saw the death card like a great dark energy popping out at me.

I was new at reading, but the energy I felt when looking at the card was intense.  

I instinctively knew not to share what I saw. Instead I said a silent prayer to protect them and their child and infuse all of them in light. I didn't know their names and I never saw them again so I do not know what happened. But more than anything I am glad I did not share what I saw.It could have been wrong. Even if it was true that she was going to be taken from them, I did not feel it was my place to share that, even if I was sure I knew.  Who am I anyway?  Just some mortal.



   
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I feel that most intuitives just want to help people (not including the ones who try to shake people down by scaring them).

But most people don't understand how the gift works, that it doesn't mean a person is omniscient.  If you give readings, resist answering every question just people ask you. Above all, use care and discernment.

If you can help someone see into themselves, if you can help someone see their incredible beauty and brightness of being, if you can help someone to connect more deeply to themselves then you have done well. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell This is what my reading w you, Jeanne, provided and I am grateful—the strength to connect more deeply w myself and spirit esp during times of perceived aloneness. The light is always on. 



   
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