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(@jeanne-mayell)
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I ask people not to predict someone's illness or death in this forum. I also do not make that kind of prediction for clients or celebrities.  I have my reasons which I'll post further below. While I have made that a rule in this forum, I am always excited to hear other perspectives, so please post away.  We grow when we hear from each other.

That said, many people get premonitions of others' deaths, especially family members. Some people even find they have a speciality in this "gift", a speciality they didn't choose, but they nevertheless have. Let's talk about it here. 



   
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(@jewels-2)
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Has anyone else here heard (accidentally) about your mortality?  A reliable seer said I would pass before my husband, and it's bugging me.  Does it mean I'll pass soon?  I wish I'd never heard it.  



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@jewels I’m sorry that happened to you, that’s not a good person for you to see.  Mostly likely that person is inexperienced or naive or just hasn't been taught not to do that, although there are always special situations for any kind of reading. 

To that prediction I say, Cancel Cancel! Cancel! 

When I was 43 years old and had two toddlers, I met a palm reader at a party who told me that in 20 years I would either die or lose my mind. For 20 years I suffered from that reading and then breathed a great sigh of relief the day after my 63rd birthday.  

The acclaimed psychic Sylvia Brown famously predicted how old she would be when she would die, but she ended out dying about ten years or so earlier from natural causes.  She also told some parents of a missing child that the child was dead, which of course was soul crushing for those parents, and then she turned out to be wrong as the child ended up been having been in captivity and was released. I do not mean to demean Sylvia Browne, but she got herself into a celebrity situation and was under a lot of pressure, which perhaps caused her to do that. 

While there are special circumstances for all of the things we do, in general:

We do not predict peoples deaths.

Not even famous peoples deaths.  

Why? For one thing,  there are no perfect psychics, not even close. The human psyche is complicated and there are many ways that thoughts come to us that are not psychic. 

I suggest you stay away from that psychic, not because he or she isn’t capable of reading things, but because she doesn’t know the limits of her ability, and the harm she can do by predicting someone’s death. 

I also get a resounding no, about you and that prediction. It’s wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Go forth and enjoy your life. 



   
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(@jewels-2)
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@jeanne-mayell. Oh Jeanne, thank you!  That is so reassuring.  This changes my whole outlook.   A huge weight lifted.  Your stories of wrong predictions are so interesting!  I hope you have as good of a day as I will now.  Smiles!



   
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A psychix predicted I would die at 88. Oddly specific, so I never fully bought in to it.

I see this as wrong, but i also see it has kept me hopeful with health problems. It has made me think I'll survive this Covid crisis, and that I will heal more and more so in that way it has been helpful. I hope for longevity.  



   
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Oh yeah, giving numbers and saying somebody will die is a big no no. Not to mention it is dark and bringing negativity. You can give off warnings about health I think (you need to eat healthier for example), but never anything negative. Psychics who predict stuff about cases... well there is a reason you do not hear anything about that anymore since the 80s and early 90s I think. It almost never worked out.

 

When I was down and unsure where to go in life and being bullied at work. I was in desperate need for anyone to tell me it would be okay and contacted a psychic. She told me I was a egotistical person, only thought about myself and was not a good human being. I was devastated and this haunted me for a long time as well. Every time I did something wrong I kept blaming myself for being evil. I still have this sometimes. Still blame myself for my kitten's death last January for example and call myself selfish for doing things.

The strange thing is though, why do we let people like that dictate our thoughts and feelings? I have talked to more than that one psychic and nobody every alluded to anything like that and yet those negative horrid words stay. @jeanne-mayell has got it right, as usual ? Don't let it in!

Go with your gut is the best way to go, don't do to anyone as you wouldn't be done to yourself, and enjoy life;-) Go for it @ghandigirl and @jewels!



   
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I unfortunately sometimes get a heads up that someone close to me will pass. It stinks. I don't tell the individual when I get these dreams or flashes. I did one time tell my sister as a warning when she pressed me, she felt the danger had passed after a medical emergency, but I did not. In fact I had 2 more dreams later. I wish I had not been right. It caused me a considerable amount of guilt where Monica was concerned. I only realized the meaning of my dreams and gut feelings that I had just before she passed once she was actually gone. She's told me not to hold on to the guilt. It took quite some time to accept that if I was meant to stop it, I would have. I've sometimes gotten vague time references like next, or soon. I've found that spirit's definition of time isn't in sync with ours.



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@Cindy thank you for bringing your perspective on the topic of seeing death in advance. I have noticed that some people, and perhaps you are one of them, have a gift in this way that arises over family members and people close to them. Like you, most of the people I've known to have this gift are discreet in how they use it. They implicitly understand it is a sacred gift that involves people they love. Many, like you, wish they didn't get those feelings.  But all understand to be careful how they use it perhaps because the visions affect people they love.

Passing into and out of this world is a huge event for all involved. If we can have premonitions about all of the other minutiae of life, then certainly we are going to have premonitions about something as momentous as death.

However, as I've said, we can do harm if we share these premonitions in public readings or when reading people we barely know. 

Whether people should know in advance when they are going to die isn't the question I'm concerned about here. I wouldn't know how to answer that question even if we asked it.  

The issue is the harm we can do to people by scaring them with information we don't even know is correct.  

Also there is hubris in believing we know.  

Intuition is a sacred gift, and it is also a great mystery.  So we need to treat it as both sacred and mysterious. Just because we are correct about some things, doesn't make us correct about all things. 

Don't let your intuitive gift go to your head. Always approach it with humility. You don't have to know everything, just because you sometimes have extraordinary knowing. 

No one knows everything. 

And if you are certain you are right about something, then you must use discernment in who you share it with.  When in doubt, do not share it. Ask yourself what good it will do. And ask what bad it wil do.

I  have felt certainty about some things, like my 2013 vision of  a 2020 crash that would turn our world around. I felt that vision was worth sharing because it gave me hope that the pain of 2020 was going to cause positive change. 

I would love to hear others thoughts and experiences on this topic.

 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

I have had premonitions here and there, but more for people who are *not* close to me. Almost like it is too much for me to handle anything about someone really close to me. I would be interested to hear others' experiences.



   
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@jeanne-mayell, I had no clue about psychic ability or premonitions when Monica was alive. I knew about a ring I was getting as a gift, or other minutia that I blew off. The kids just laughed at such things. They complained saying I always started singing along with the radio before the song actually started, which perplexed me since I heard it.

I had various dreams of losing a child before her trip that I dismissed as nightmares. Once I decided not to go along as she'd asked, I looked for any reason to keep her home. I couldn't explain why. I felt uneasy about transportation. I kept worrying about the bus they were taking from Paris to Nice. She made me wait to talk to the trip representative until everyone else left the meeting.  In frustration during the conversation, the rep asked me if I had a problem. My response? "I don't want my daughter blown up on public transportation." I thought Monica was going to crawl under the table when that flew out of my mouth. In the years since, I've wondered how that interaction may have affected that poor rep. 



   
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