Lessons we can learn from wrong predictions

@jeanne-mayell @baba @bluebelle @deetoo. All good lessons to embrace.  #5. I've stopped throwing more cards since I've learned that lesson.  Mine don't tend to switch though--instead after getting one dark card, I ended up throwing 3 more.  That's way too much darkness for me so now I'll settle for the one and hope to see something positive in it--something that I have to work on. 

I thought I might throw in another possibility for what happened.  Is it possible that the outcome was supposed to be as we saw it originally, but something changed at the last minute, something arose that had not been seen before?  Or, maybe it happened to offer us some humility.  Or, more people than we realized were exercising their free will at the last minute and in unproductive ways.  Whatever the reason, it hasn't dampened my belief that being shown the future has value and more lessons.  Thanks for this, Jeanne.

I'm not certain how to start a new topic anymore so I searched until I found a forum that might fit this topic.

Thinking further about predictions, what we get right, what we get wrong, etc, I'm reminded of something striking that only recently registered with me.

Spring of 2020, right after I'd learned my boss was leaving I had a reading with @Jeanne-Mayell (A incredible experience I recommend to anyone.  I myself am going to budget for another one this coming spring!)  Toward the end she did a little mini read on my work situation.  My co-worker was applying for the job and I was certain the job was hers to lose.  Jeanne told me the right person was going to get the job, and we both figured that meant my co-worker.  

Unfortunately, I sat on the hiring board and from my perspective that day, the least qualified person got the job.  I was angry.  Partially because my friend didn't get it, and partially because the woman who did seemed like the worst candidate of the bunch.

Turns out Jeanne was right all along.  The right person got the job.  

Despite a bumpy first year, she's let me add two permanent hats to my role to replace the ones my old boss just funded with whatever grant money we had laying around.  I now do SEL work just for our ISD, and I do ELA work for our ISD and another.  I have more freedom, trust, and flexibility than I've ever had in any role. I've jumped salary lanes working on my new degree without any hiccups (old boss would have played the "we don't have money to pay you more even though it's in your contract) card.  And this year I've even come around to appreciate the new boss personally.  She's got flaws, but my career has never been fuller.

So - don't think of predictions as being wrong per say, think of them as things you may have misinterpreted.

@Jeanne-Mayell @lovendures @baba @deetoo and -@  anyone else who might need to hear this.

EDIT:  I'll add almost everything else in that reading has been verbatim correct so there's that too :-) 

@dannyboy Thank you for finding this thread to post in. It isn't used enough and we all need to record our missed predictions and tell stories like yours.  Thank you also for the kind words. I am SO GLAD you have had good opportunities from this new hire.  Makes my heart soar to hear you are able to do what you love, and of course, you do these things so well.  

PS I am remembering something you said in a different thread about having an old house. I too have an old house with a basement that is creepy and ancient and needs constant spider web clearing. I loved how you saw the metaphor in going down there and clearing the cobwebs. 

@jeanne-mayell I'm feeling a lot more evolved up the spiral right now.  No idea how it happened but this school year has been incredible :-)

@dannyboy, we're human, so our emotions and desires will always have an impact on what we 'see'. That's ok. Here's a little Rolling Stones perspective. :)

I can't really comment on the US predictions as much because I don't live in the US and don't always get all the news over here in UK, but I always try to follow the predictions here for your US elections, because I always look to the US as the leader of the freeworld. I know that is cheesy, but I know the stability of America is crucial for times like these, and I desperately wanted Biden to win in 2020, and you were the only spiritual place online that supported that prediction.

I have been on my travels, so to speak, over the years on the internet, looking for a spiritual community I could relate to on a number of topics such as: climate change, progressiveness, equality etc, and I only really found it here. Most of the other places and people I spoke to were either down the QAnon rabbit hole or extremely conservative right-wing fascist supporters - as many spiritual people I encountered online here in the UK were. So I felt like I never really fit in anywhere, until I finally joined this community here. It was your optimism and positivity in your predictions that made me join, and I had been reading the forum for a few years before I finally joined in 2020.

Why am I saying all this?

I want to remind you all how special you are to me and how important your predictions have been to me and how they gave me back some optimism for the future of the world. Everywhere I looked was bad news, and yet there was a deep feeling of "this is going to change" and it "it won't always be like this" but everywhere I looked showed me the opposite - even the predictions from other spiritual people that I used to look at were in support of Trump and what the Conservatives were doing in the UK. It was all very hate filled, negative and divisive. I knew deep down they were wrong, but my discernment was more naive back then, and I thought because they were spiritual people and knew a lot more than me, that they might be right about what they were predicting, and that I was probably wrong with my feelings. But you all proved they were wrong. You all proved to me what my inner feelings were telling me all along. You helped me escape from that darkness and gave me back my optimism for the world that I started to lose.

I know there aren't many UK predictions here, and yeah I sometimes wish they were more to help lift me, but I am not only here for that. I am here to see the whole picture of where the world is heading, and there is no place like it anywhere.

That is all.

@luminous 

I enjoyed reading what you wrote.  Your journey here to this place and your observations about different psychic sites are wonderful to read.

While I am aware of and concerned for my state of AZ and the entire U.S. as a whole, I also find my interest in the greater globe is deepening.   I've always been interested in global stories and current events but have felt pulled to increase my focus on other parts of the world as well.  

We Are All Connected. I use that phrase often. It has become a part of my spiritual belief system and I believe we gain the strongest connections when love is the glue of that connection.

@dannyboy, thank you for reviving this thread.  It is just as important to see where we made mistakes in predictions and interpretations as it is to discover more about our hits and correct visions.  I also love that you are in a great place right now.

@dannyboy Thanks for posting in this thread. It really does help us to learn when we post predictions that don’t come to be or don’t unfold as we might have imagined. Sometimes I have found that I will only realize why something happened the way that it did long after the fact and only then am I able to understand that it was the best outcome for a situation. We interpret what comes to us according to our own experience. This can lead to some interesting interpretations! I’m glad that your work situation turned out for the better even though it was a process to see it come to fruition. 

@luminous Thanks for your contributions to the website. We are all connected no matter where we live. 

I don’t really comment too often but I could not let this topic go without sharing my thoughts. First, I believe that those who predicted that the house would turn blue were predicting the reality of the election.  They were able to see the collective conscience as it was and the true outcome of the election. What they could not see was the cheating by the repugs besides the gerrymandering and cutting hours and disenfranchising the voter and finally the use of rigged voting machines.

On 9/1/22 Jeanne wrote “It is better than we thought, so at first, I feel relief, but something is bothering me. Some aftershocks, something that doesn’t feel right.”

Others made mention of cheating in the midterms that may come to light.

There were several people on twitter who voted in Texas and had problems with their democratic votes switching to repugs. Also, many reported that when they checked their votes on line, they found that the sites said they did not vote. 

Here are some articles that have come out about a specific voting machine that needs to be investigated. Once you read them, you may understand that our seers saw the reality of the 2022 midterm election. This is not only my opinion but my belief in the validity of many of the predictions that did not come true.

ES&S Voting Systems: A Friend To Republicans | DCReport.org

The Market for Voting Machines Is Broken. This Company Has Thrived in It. — ProPublica

On the Insecurity of ES&S Voting Machines’ Hash Code - Schneier on Security

Kentucky, Mitch McConnell, and Voting Machines - A Deeper Dive

Trump Ignores Largest Voting System Provider with Republican Ties

New "hybrid" voting system can change paper ballot after it's been cast | Salon.com

Besides these articles there are many more articles about this voting system.

@lenor 

Thank you for posting this list. As one who is formerly from KY, I have known that for one who has only an 18% approval rating, it must take shenanigans to get elected. Moreover, in the last election of this senator,  MM,someone posted on Facebook that in her precinct there were far more votes for him than there were voters (or some similar anomaly.) When I reposted it, Facebook chastised me for spreading voter fraud information.

Anyway, like I have said before, they point the finger and shout "fraud" so we don't notice their own effective efforts.

@lenor @Jeanne @dannyboy @luminous  This is incredibly helpful to look at wrong predictions. That’s exactly what I’ve been mulling over since the election tallies firmed up.  Several times I had seen the Democrats taking the Senate and House and expanding the Senate.  When I look back on those predictions, I realize that I had a good feeling about the midterms and about the role of women concerned about reproductive rights.  And what a surprising midterm election it was with the President’s party holding the Senate and losing very few seats in the House.  Women did turn out, but also important were young people who probably made the biggest difference.  The Republicans have learned that young people don’t support them, just as young people are turning away from the Evangelical movement.

Lenor, I appreciate your comments on wrong predictions and found great comfort there.  When I get a wrong prediction, I worry about letting people down. We don’t bat 100% in predictions, but we can develop a consistency in accuracy.  As DannyBoy pointed out, sometimes the predictions we get wrong turn out to be for the greater good overall.

Luminous, we should focus more on the UK and we know how your country is struggling economically.  I will make a point to include the UK in my meditations.  The question of Scotland’s independence often comes to my mind, but that may be a personal bias as my family came to the US from Scotland.  Thank you for the kind words about the site.  Jeanne’s personal philosophy of practicing loving kindness permeates the community.

Essentially, I've been looking at "wrong" predictions as outcomes that had to be in order for something else to come about.  I've always been intrigued by the Old Testament scripture that says essentially, "God made the king stubborn...."  (Exodus 14:8-12.). One would think that He'd want the king to "see the light", become understanding of the Israelites, become wise and caring....  When predictions are wrong--or appear to be wrong--I wonder, what "wrong thing" has to happen, what has to come about, in order to get to a better place.  Right now as I watch Kevin McCarthy in open conflict with his own caucus members many of whom are pointing out his weaknesses, his duplicity, his lies, his lack of loyalty to anyone other than his own career.  Would we have seen this if he'd lost the House in the midterms?  I don't know where that will eventually lead, but the turmoil in the House is showing everyone which members want to burn the House down, which members want to "actually" legislate, which members are concerned about the depravity among their fellow Republicans, etc.  One more finer point: At first, I thought it was simply my lack of skill, but then slowly, I began to see that because we "got it wrong," it forces us to take a deeper look at what happened.  It forces us to shine a light.  (Or, I'm just looking for an explanation that makes it more palatable when we get it wrong.).   

@seeker4 I think there's something to what you're saying.  In some cases, we do get it wrong simply because our sight is clouded by what we want to see rather than seeing what is.  However, I think there's also the factor that many times we think we've got it wrong, but it's not the vision that's wrong, it's the timing.  I am still sure that the House will be on the blue/purple side, but it is perhaps that I am seeing the effect rather than the physical reality of it.  I'm also still certain that 2024 will be the beginning of the major rise of progressives, but that can't happen until the remaining TFG cult members in Congress fully show themselves over the next two years and enough of the electorate - including the more moderate R's - gets fully tired of the antics of the TFG crowd.

We learn about our selves, our perceptions, our consciousness from wrong predictions.

When I examine my missed predictions, I back track to what I was really getting at the moment right before I wrote it down.There a gap between what I sensed and what I wrote down. It's in that gap that I can see the error. 

First of all, when we travel into the future, we are sensing the collective consciousness at a given point in time, in a churning sea of consciousness. Like the sea itself, the collective consciousness (and the whole eco system) is flowing and changing second by second. So it it important for us to be precise about the time frame we are focusing upon.  

That's why I asked myself while we were meditating on the Midterms, "How do I feel right after the election?"  When I stated that time frame, I got the answer loud and clear, "You are numb."

So I got some accurate information but it wasn't enough information (and it wasn't what I wanted to hear).   First of all, I didn't want to create a negative mindset when we needed hope to push through. Secondly, I needed to understand more about being numb. 

So I pushed myself to see further out into November and got that there would be some kind of blue wave, though not spectacular and possibly purple House, but I felt that the vote was blue,  and that further out I went in time, the more I could feel there had been a blue wave. So the numbness of right after the election changed to: "It is better than we thought, so at first, I feel relief, but something is bothering me. Some aftershocks, something that doesn’t feel right.”

I didn't want to say what I thought those aftershocks were, but I felt it involved cheating.  But I didn't want to say it because  I didn't want to be whining about stealing the election the way the TFG did. So in that moment of withholding that there was cheating, I became inauthentic. It would have been better if I'd just said I felt there was cheating. 

So at this point in my path to be a better intuitive, it's for me about being (1) more mindful of what I am actually getting, and then (2) being authentic about putting forth what I am getting.

Then there is another issue for me in making predictions that I posted about a year ago (see this post which is just 14 posts above this one): While I want to be as accurate as possible, it is more important to spread hope than to be accurate, if that hope can keep our eyes on the prize we all seek - which is a better world. And I really do believe we are heading for a better world, it's just timing. 

I also want to comment on some of your posts:

@bluebelle, when you wrote that you don't want to let people down with wrong predictions, I want you to know that your predictions keep me sane and at peace, and I don't care if later your prediction wasn't exactly perfect.  I will eagerly lap up whatever you write. And I believe you are accurate when you say it was a blue wave, and you are accurate when you say it will all be okay and all work out. Your predictions come from the angels so just keep doing what you are doing. I need your visions.

Ditto for @baba.  I will follow your predictions, and @bluebelle's (and @lovendures', @cc21, @deetoo, @seeker4, @Clara, @dannyboy, @seaholly, @siobhan and quite a few others' here) to the ends of the earth. I do not care if you are exactly accurate, although I do see great value in tracking predictions.  I care that you are been able to keep me in the mindset I need to get through all of this.

You give me the hope I need and the light I believe is the truth of things. 

@tgraf66. Yes, yes, yes, thank you, it is hard to get timing right. Even though we have a good record for timing by month, which is unprecedented on the web, we also see far ahead of our stated timeframe without realizing it. We might just see an outcome and as @baba pointed out, it takes a while for things to unfold. When TFG was president, many of us saw impeachments and indictments, his daughter parting ways with him, former supporters turning on him but we thought it would happen earlier.

And @lenor, yes I do believe many of us were predicting the reality of the vote, rather than the cheating, and I do believe this really was a stolen election, unlike in 2020. 

@luminous, I would like to do a better job at focusing outside the US.  I probably need to travel there to help my consciousness go there in meditation. I was in Scotland for 11 days in October and now I'm so there in my mind.  We had two north Londoners at the Circle of Light last Wednesday both talking eruditely about UK politics.  We also need more UK people to join us in making predictions. 

@jeanne-mayell 

I love what you wrote.  Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Also, yes!  More UK people would be awesome.  

Sometimes I think of this blue election wave as more of a blue wall. Without the  blue wave of people who came out to vote, there would not have been a blue wall to stop the Senate from becoming red.

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Sometimes I think of this blue election wave as more of a blue wall.

This was exactly what I said to Jeanne on the phone the other day! 🤣

This isn't a wrong prediction. In fact it is an accurate prediction. But there are some really good lessons we can learn from it so I thought I would put it here for a discussion.  While this may reflect my observation, please feel free to join in and add to the discussion. 

On RTFN 9-2021  Jeanne wrote the following prediction for the 2022 midterm election:

Senate: McConnell, disappointed. McCarthy - grim faced. Kamala is smiling. AOC is happy. Many women elected, more people of color. (Jeanne Mayell)Predicted September 2021 for 2022 mid-terms.

One might interpret this prediction as pointing to a Dem win in the House and Senate for the mid-terms.  

As we know, only part of that reality happened.  This prediction is still accurate however.  McConnell IS disappointed.  The Republicans not only lost the Senate, they lost a seat.  McCarthy IS grim faced.  The republicans picked up less seats than expected and the party is fractured.  Even IF he is elected Speaker, it will be a difficult role. Kamala is smiling because the results are better than expected, in fact, historic!  She will not need to be on standby all the time to break tie votes either.

So, no the dems did not retain control of both sides of Congress, but what Jeanne saw is accurate.  The rest of the prediction is spot on as well.  

@Jeanne-Mayell

@lovendures thank you for noticing this prediction and taking the time to analyze it. I love reviewing predictions to understand more about consciousness. We are peering into something so mysterious and wondrous when we contemplate these visions — made so far in advance.  It boggles the mind.

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@lovendures  It boggles the mind.

For me, that's a shorter trip than the grocery store.