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@marigold

 Thank you for that new dream analysis approach of "If it were mine." I was unaware of it.

Good grief! Those laser weapons are scary...I guess "scary" is redundant after "weapon." A drone is an interesting thought...



   
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@raincloud truly scary, those weapons. The “if it were my dream” is from Jeremy Taylor’s The Wisdom of Your Dreams.



   
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@raincloud   Yes, your finding the Atlantic article was a "funny" synchronicity. I haven't read the article yet (I'm a subscriber); but the USA and Rome often seemed to me to be "history rhyming."

My perception?

The Romans were Empire builders... centralized administrators.  Their culture had a hugh impact on the Western world... actual physical builders... practical users of technology...  pride, indeed hubris in their military might and their culture... frequent success "converting" those they've conquered (I believe ours is mostly economic, though there are notable exceptions, for example how we came to be a country "from sea to shining sea"). Frequent borrowing from other cultures whilst pretending everything flowed from Rome. Immigration from throughout the Empire poured into Italy and into their vast federal administrative organization. They had the beginnings of a limited representative democracy which fell through corruption and infighting, neglecting the qualities which had made them strong. Their culture was ruled by a long lasting patriarchy; and there was an extreme economic and educational divide between the upper class and the majority of the populous. I'm sure there is more.

There are differences to be sure, but to me the USA is the new Rome.  I love my country:  I hope we learn to use our good qualities... leave behind our flaws... and step into the light. That choice is before us. I pray that we will make the right choice.

I keep wondering what the big, box-like object represents. I refuse to speculate into the potential impact of unsecured "boxes" containing national secrets... being gobbled up... like "Asian" noodles.

Now I want to read the Atlantic article... and about ancient Rome. Anybody know a good book? I may misunderstand a great deal about Roman culture and that of my own country... and yet I natter on... sorry.

Thank you, raincloud, for sharing your striking, visionary dream.
 


   
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I had a strange dream on Wednesday night.  Unfortunately I often can’t remember much about my dreams.  What I do remember about this one is that it took place in what was supposed to be my house.  Things felt relatively peaceful, until I saw that two huge rats had invaded my home.  One rat was on the main level, which includes the kitchen.  The other rat was somewhere in the basement.  I remember thinking that the basement must have been the way they entered, although I didn’t know exactly where that might have occurred.  I thought they must have created a hole somewhere, but I didn’t investigate.  As I thought about how I might drive out the rats, I suddenly saw that the rats had turned into bear cubs.  I left some doors opened on the upper level, hoping that the cubs would leave on their own.

I'm not great with interpreting dreams, unless it's something really apparent or feels deeply personal to me.  I usually connect dreams about a house as representing me and my psyche.  Although that's probably true about this one, might it also represent our world conflicts?  Could the rats represent the Hamas invasion? 

The dream was unsettling with the rats present, but I felt less disturbed when I saw the cubs -- it was more confusion about their transformation.  I thought the cubs were cute but I felt very unsettled about them.  I  thought that the bear cubs might represent Russia and/or Putin.  I remember initially feeling relieved about the cubs, but then being concerned that if I didn't remove them, they would grow into something much larger and dangerous.  Maybe something about a false sense of security? 

I would welcome further interpretations.

I also had a vision about Putin the morning after I had this dream, which I am posting under the "Random Predictions 3" thread. 

 



   
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@deetoo this morning i also had a dream about creatures being in places you would not want them to be:   In my dream, i walked into a bar, and ordered a Pina Colada (!). (In real life, i would have chosen a Long Island Ice Tea, because at $15 a pop, i expect it to at least give me a buzz).  As i was about to take a sip, i noticed there was a large cockroach swimming around in it.

 "Um, excuse me? there is a roach in my drink."  The bartender picked up my drink to look.  Then she stuck her long Lee Press-ons into my Pina Colada, and flicked the roach out of it.  "There you go. Happy NOW?" she asked, obviously irritated.

 I looked at the drink again.  "Um, i'm sorry, but now there seems to be a scorpion in my cocktail?"  She picked up the glass, and when she saw it, she slammed it into the bar sink.  "Dammit! I guess now I will have to make you a whole new drink!"

 At that point i laughed so hard at the inappropriateness of her response, that i actually woke myself up- which is probably why i remembered the dream.  It was like she was mad at me for being so picky

 



   
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@deetoo, This dream is right out of Orwell's Animal Farm. The rats were the Hamas invaders, and the cubs indicates a relationship with the Kremlin. Remember the puppies in Animal Farm?  THey represented the children that Stalin took away from their families and then trained to become his loyal secret police. Except today it's Hamas invaders turned into puppies for whom? Bear cubs would mean the Kremlin. While I do not know how much, if anything, Putin was involved in this invasion, I thought from the beginning that he was. 

Also, The rats entered the house through the basement, which is in the dark and the unconscious, but in a state in which their true identity was shrouded. But in the light of day upstairs, they turned out to be bear cubs. Perhaps Palestinians, who are trying to immigrate to Russia.



   
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@jeanne-mayell, Regarding my dream, I love your Animal Farm analogy.  Although at the time I did feel the rats were Hamas and the bear cubs were Russia, what confused me was that they were cubs -- why not a grown bear?   I remember initially feeling relieved at that, but then being concerned that if I didn't remove them, they would grow into something much bigger and dangerous.



   
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@unk-p, that was one wacky dream!  Only you would have a dream so detailed that it would included a bartender with long Lee Press-ons.  I love it!



   
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@jeanne-mayell I get a feeling that, numerologically, 630 can mean gathering together one's familiar (familial) group and then incorporating a new agreement or social pact aimed at wholeness. I feel it speaks to a new society that we could be making that is about more than work and survival. A higher light is possible.

Lovely dream, thanks for sharing!



   
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NOTE FROM JEANNE MAYELL:

The next 8 posts are about a dream A community member @moonbeam sent me a vision she had:

"In short on the global issue, I was at a train station going from a large city (where I'd been happy my whole life & had good feelings about) to a place called Etoile. I realized then that I was in Ireland & the city was Dublin. Now I do like cities, but having visited Dublin on numerous occasions, it doesn't give that happy a vibe to me so I think Dublin/city was just meant as a place holder to mean 'life': a general feeling of comfort/togetherness/large groups/living in a bubble. I do not know why it was Dublin/Ireland, but there you have it. Now. There is no place in Ireland named: 'Etoile' as far as I know so that confused me. Also, I had my whole family with me at that train station and it was very clear we had to go and travel 6 hours and 30 minutes to get to Etoile. It felt like we would not return, but Etoile was unknown to me on every level. The train-station was filled with families like us: we had to go to Etoile.
 
That's when the vision ended, but the time and Etoile were VERY vivid on a global scale. Now I couldn't understand what Etoile meant for days until yesterday, out of nowhere, a website popped up (while I was working & not clicking on anything) displaying the Star, from the Tarot, in French. It's Etoile in French & it clicked.. .
 
The conclusion/prediction: we're all moving away from everything that our lives have offered until now and we're going into the unknown: natural, smaller and out of our comfort-zones/beliefs. We'll go into times of some upheaval and fear for what is awaiting us, and it starts NOW, but what is coming is good. We just need to have faith and stop holding onto things/beliefs that are not that healthy for us (& keep us from open discourse) and the environment. Keep the star in mind. Get out of your comfort-zones without fear. That tarot card is going to become important. The time: 6 hours and 30 minutes? I have no idea... could be a date, could be years or months. Seeing that I saw star in French, there could be a French connection."--BY @moonbeam


   
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@jeanne-mayell Curious on how long a train ride/ferry ride from Dublin to Antwerp or Brussels would take. I think 6 is family, music, and conserving resources, 3 is trinity in whatever that means to you, 0 is openness and something new but can be associated with the fool, so I would go to the new with some openness but not foolishness.  If you add the numbers together, it's nine which deals with endings, education, and expansion, and to some revolution. The star usually means wishes fulfilled, right?

 

When I analyze dreams, I think the person who dreamt them likely has the knowledge to solve it, if it is a personal dream.  For women, i think looking at dreams symbolically is significant, more so than with men but it still applies, but also break it down literally to get hidden clues about something hidden.  I don't know you well enough to do that but...what do you see when you look at it that way?



   
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@maggieci I have been getting out of bed at 6:30 am for several days now. I wake at all different times though the night,, but force myself to stay under the covers a bit longer. 6 30 resonates with me with the reference to family, and all of my recent sadness.



   
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@jeanne-mayell 

I don’t know if it would have any bearing but as soon as I read Etoile I remembered it is a station on the Paris Metro, it’s under the Arc de Triomphe. It’s full name is Charles de Gaulle Etoile but known as Etoile, it’s at the start of The Champs Élysées.

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@jeanne-mayell

Maybe Etoile as a Paris metro station is meaning the Paris climate agreement and we are trying to reach it.

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@jeanne-mayell @moonbeam I love this vision! So rich with symbolism and makes you think. I like the French connection that @matildagirl mentioned, especially regarding Charles de Gaulle Etoile. When I looked it up, there was a map of how it looks with the The Champs Élysées oriented at the 6 and 30 position (if you think of a clock face.) Right then, the Bon Jovi song, 'Living on a Prayer' popped into my head and I heard, "Oh, we're halfway there...oh, oh, living on a prayer!" 

So if I take that thought and build on what was said about a time of trial and transformation, maybe it is telling us we are working through it and are halfway there? Something to ponder, for sure...



   
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There is usually hope, but many are suffering now.

I like the french culture as they pay attention to detail, and some days I feel that 'god' and 'the devil' are both in the details, but they can get mired up into the day to day, and many of their policies are great but the bureaucracy is oppressive to many.  They are clever, and certainly know how to fund culture, and create and sustain good art.  My concern is that it feels like there is some sort of corruption in every level of groups trying to find progress.  The vulnerable are not getting what they need. Now.

My gut says look behind the dream.  This does not make sense to me but that just came to me.



   
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De Gaulle was educated in Paris at the Collège Stanislas and studied briefly in Belgium.[3]: 5



   
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Last week I was meditating lightly on what the earth needed to heal. I saw a golden-pink column of energy rise from the middle of the planet, pluming upwards and then slowly forming a closed circuit of this beautiful energy around the entire sphere, so that it was continually feeding back into the core of the earth and flowing outward again. Then I saw what looked like a dragon-phoenix-firebird form out of this energy, still golden-pink, and its body was roaming across the top of the closed circuit of energy.

In previous meditations of this kind, I've seen the earth as quiet, serene, placid (albeit damaged by climate change and over-development). But this felt like the earth had awoken, as a phoenix rises from ashes. And the golden-pink color I always associate with the highest forms of love. 

 



   
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I had a strange set of dreams last night. I didn't remember them as clearly as I'd like when I woke, because  I woke as a result of the dogs' activity. In one dream I found myself in a luxury house. I can't say if it was T tower, or Mara No-Go, but it was decorated in the over the top style of those properties. I did see a woman there, who seemed to be the occupant, but I didn't get a good look at who she was, nor did I feel she was important, other than the feeling of self-importance. As I turned to leave, finding nothing there to captivate my interest, I saw TFG standing there in a tan suit looking at the activities of the house. It was almost like he was ghost-like, or only there in spirit. No one noticed him, acknowledged him, nor did he speak or try to communicate with anyone. I walked past him like he wasn't even there. The dream moved on to other topics, as dreams do. What I found interesting is that other than the one dream I posted here about Nancy Pelosi being front and center (as well as being majorly important and influential) after her tenure as Speaker, I don't dream about politics or political figures, so I can't say this was prophetic, but it was worthy of noting or being curious about. There was no message here, it was like he was gone. I'm not predicting his demise, but I was left with the feeling that he's 'gone' in many senses of the word. As in, if he's still alive, he's irrelevant. This impression was as if it's now or in the very near future-not far removed from the current time frame. 



   
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That tan suit Obama wore was his only "scandal"  Trump in a tan suit is clothed in scandal.



   
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