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@deetoo and @laura-f

Actually, I think I remember us all talking about it with some others in the thread. I want to say it was June or July? Not sure exactly. 

I'm also more concerned about Haley personally, but she was my state's governor. During those years, I kept finding myself inexplicably knocked off the rolls in my voting district (I certainly wasn't alone). 

 



   
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The slave trade of souls is a terrible business, but I hear the pay is phenomenal while it lasts. 

@vestralux,

Yikes! That gave me chills.

re Haley --  you're right, there were others as well.  It did feel like summer.  We'll see how this plays out.



   
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I feel very depressed right now.

According to various news reports, the Republicans now have the votes needed to block witnesses and end the trial.  It seems as though no matter what Trump does, he always gets away with it.  It is like watching a Hollywood sequel.  Same old formula.  Same old ending.

Dear God, when will this ever end?  Is a good economy worth the price of decency?  Is having conservative judges worth ignoring morals?  Is hatred, greed, particianship, and evil destined to win out over kindness, compassion, cooperation, and goodness?  Is bullying truly the new normal?  Is cruelty the new normal?  

Will there be no penalty for these Republicans who willfully and gleefully subvert the majority through gerrymandering and voter suppression just to satisfy a power-hungry base?  Will Trump live out his life as our king without ever paying the price for his crimes?  Should this be the new thing that our children must learn?  Continue to bully, lie, and cheat, because no one will punish you for it?

I fear no matter what we do, it will be for naught.  I try to stay positive, and pray that God will intervene.  But I am finding it increasingly difficult.  I pray that one Republican, even if it is just one, votes against Trump in this.  At the very least, it will show me that the light hasn't died completely.  But I guess it is too much to ask for at this point. 



   
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@Allyn I feel your pain (probably literally since I’m an empath)! I, too, am discouraged by what the news is offering up this morning. However, as I was watching the news, I kept hearing the song “I Need a Hero” in the back of my mind. Maybe someone will step up and help or maybe it has to be us light workers that can’t give up and need to keep sending light for the truth to be revealed to the masses. Does anyone want to try to do a group meditation (similar to the last eclipse one in nature) and does anyone have a suggestion for a favorable time? 
I take solace in knowing that the worse that the R’s do now, the bigger the shock they will receive at the ballot box and that they will have ultimately hurt themselves with their short-sighted and selfish actions. 

There will be a reckoning politically and the pendulum will swing back in the other direction as far as what people are willing to put up with. It is just a matter of time. 

I’m off to meditate again and send light to those who would protect the people and democracy. 



   
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It is depressing. Every time I think oh, this is it, this new thing is going to bring him down, he just gets away with it, within a few days. Now his attys/Dershowitz are arguing that if he sincerely believes what he is doing is right and will be in the national interest, it's all ok.

I'm getting a feeling of dread about what he will do once he gets away with all this. Interview on Super Bowl Sunday, gloating at the state of the union, and illegality on steroids, There can't possibly be a free election this fall. Sorry to be so grim, but I literally can't believe what I see happening, and that no one on the gop side will help stop it.



   
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I am praying for a miracle...as I can not believe what my ears are hearing and my eyes are seeing. What rock did Alan Dershowitz crawl out from under with that crazy reasoning? I can not watch anymore. I also find it ironic that the "big beautiful wall" blew over in to Mexico .... and cling to that as a sign that the powers that be are signaling us to hold on and hold out... the winds of change are blowing. I hold fast to my intuition that while it's the darkest its ever been... "Joy cometh in the morning" For my own mental health I have to step back and be out in Nature today and forget the world of man.



   
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@allyn

Allyn and all light working friends, 

I feel the same that it is just overwhelming and sad the amount that this administration gets away with. My biggest confusion is how much they can lie and gaslight. One of my relatives that likes Trump always tells her kids how much she hates people that lie. But why does she still think this guy is awesome with thousands and thousands of lies reported and documented? I worry about the younger generation thinking this is the only way to get ahead. I guess it’s the ‘greed is good’ tagline from the 1980s. 

Hopefully this turns around and all the bad they have done just keeps coming out into the light. Then in November a landslide of Democrat votes push them all out. We can only hope...



   
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@allyn

I don't really have anything to add (sorry!), but I identify with your post so much. Such a feeling of powerlessness; like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I also feel like I can't trust my intuition since I keep getting my hopes up and seeing a future where we're rid of this nightmare, but then having my hopes dashed every time. Sorry I don't have anything helpful to say, just know that so many of us are feeling the same.



   
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I don't know a favorable time since the next full moon isn't until February 9 and I'm not really an astrologer, however I can meditate today/tonight. I'm in CT so I am in Eastern time. The only time today I can't mediate would be 1:30-2:30pmET. If you would like to do a meditation together I'm available, even though I am working until 5:15pm, I can take a 15 min break too to do so ? 



   
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@allyn, @lynnventura, @journeywithme2, @tiger-n-owl and everyone who feels overwhelmed right now, 

I felt the same way last night.  I watched a little of the analysis on MSNBC.  What struck me was the overwhelming sadness I felt from those who were on the panel -- journalists, intelligence people, lawyers, ex-legislators turned media contributors, both Ds and Rs. Usually their professional detachment is in charge.  I didn't feel that yesterday, even though they were going through the motions of being professional.  The anger, sadness, despondency -- it was palpable.   I picked up on that, and as @baba stated about being an empath ... well, I was right there with them.  

Dersh et al's shameless argument goes like this:  If whatever a President chooses to do is in the public interest, it can’t be corrupt.  So if a President believes that getting reelected is in the public interest, and he encourages and accepts foreign help to make that happen, it can’t be corrupt.  Which also means it’s not impeachable.  A President can do anything – absolutely anything – if he states that it’s in the public interest. I immediately thought of the immigrants and became nauseous.  It's monstrous.

I thought that we are a representative democracy.  We have checks and balances, right?  Or I believed we had.  The attorneys basically crapped on the Constitution in order to defend this abominable figure.   It's all a lawyers' game for them ... they want to win, at all costs. 

And then you have Justice Roberts, who sat there like a potted plant.  I understand that Roberts' function in these proceedings is very different from his role as Chief Justice, and he was following that protocol.  But do the rules even matter any more, in this age of T?  Rules and laws have been trashed, over and over again.  It's a new ballgame.  I believe Roberts has an obligation to ensure the rules of the impeachment trial are fair, rather than leaving it entirely to the Senate.  Former Obama solicitor general Neal Katyal argues that impeachment rules, like all trial systems, put a large thumb on the scale of issuing subpoenas and place that power within the authority of the judge, in this case the chief justice.  Yes, we know that the Senate could, and most likely would, overrule him.  That's not the point, is it?  Breaking that deadening silence to the truth is the point. 

So I had trouble getting to sleep.  I didn't have overwhelming anxiety, but I was in mourning.  That awful, empty feeling.  You can't believe that person is gone.  That feeling.  

And then a very strange thing happened.  @coyote, you popped into my head.   I felt your calm, grounded, measured, loving presence.  Your compassion.  How honest and brave you are.  How you always look at the big picture.   And your amazing wisdom, far beyond your years.

I am turning 68 this year, and I don't know whether I will live long enough to see this country's full transformation and renewal.  That's a big part of my sadness.  I want to be here for that, but who knows?  What I do know, @Coyote, is that this country will be in safe, strong, wise and loving hands with you, and so many young spiritual warriors like you, leading the way.  And when I reached that understanding, and felt it in the core of my being, I immediately fell asleep.

 

 



   
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