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[Closed] The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning - Rebuilding a Progressive America in the Future

(@laura-f)
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@triciact

I think our own Jeanne has said the same - his energy is literally too dark to go into.



   
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(@lawrence)
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@laura-f

I can't look at him or hear his voice. He is so sick on many, many levels and completely dark. I read people on the sound of their voices and his makes me really nauseous. 

Things will not end well for him. As I write this, I just saw buzzards flying circling around and surrounding him. 

Wow.



   
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@yogagirl

I am afraid that I myself have actually wished that Trump and some of his members will get the virus.  I know that is not the right thing to do, but I feel that if Trump or Pence gets it, then it will show their followers that this virus is serious and maybe, just maybe, a few of them will drop their guns and don on masks.

I am so, so worry to say this, but I honestly would feel relief if Trump suddenly dropped dead.  Although I hope he would be taken out of power during the election, I fear that the damage he is doing now is not worth the wait.  Further, if Trump does make it to the election and failed, then he still may cause trouble by declaring the election results invalid and/or inciting his followers to violence.  At the very least, he will continue to stir up trouble on Twitter and incite his followers against the Democrats and Biden.

So yes, I will admit it.  If Trump suddenly died, I would feel relieved.  Not joyous (I haven't reached that point yet), but relieved.

Yes, I know that Pence would then become President, and yes, I know of how he messed up badly during the AIDS crisis, but even he would be better at calling the shots than the Predator in Chief.  He at least would act cautiously until 2021, as he wouldn't want to stir opposition against him (and because he knows that Trump's supporters would not be as enthusiastic for Pence).  At the very least, the continued damage that Trump causes to innocent lives, American values, and the stability of our laws would be stopped.

Further, it would renew my faith that karma is real.  Yes, I know that you reap what you sow, so I will probably get bad karma if I wish for Trump's death.  But is it not human nature to hope that your bully and tormentor will vanish?  Is it terrible to hope that someone who callously seperates children from their parents and then lock them in cages meet a bad end?  Is it horrible to wish that a man who rapes women (and brags about it), encourages racism, and thus ensures that these groups suffer at the hands of his followers just drops dead?

I wish I didn't feel this way.  I truly do.  But I want it to end, and I don't see an ending in sight.  I am tired of watching innocent people suffer, sicken, and die while he grins manically and dares to spout nonsense about the economy.  No matter what he does, the economy will not be back to what it was before the outbreak.  It is a worldwide economy, so everyone is affected.  Further, as he has spent the last three and a half years driving away our allies, picking fights with China (whom he owes millions of dollars to, by the way), and flattering tyrants who will certainly not give any aid, America's recovery will be slow and painful.

So yes, I wish Trump and his evil will disappear.  Be it election, resignation, scandal, or even death.  My reaction of relief and hope for the future will be felt regardless.

But if he should still be President after November 2020?  The anxiety is unspeakable.  Because then Trump can try to build his wall, destroy Obamacare, and run America to the ground while he sends billions to offshore accounts that he can enjoy when he leaves office.

How sad is it that one man can be so evil and dark that it gets to the point that his death might be the only way to stop him, as he is protected by such dark and evil forces.



   
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(@lawrence)
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@allyn @@TriciaCT 

VP Pence spokesperson Katie Miller, who's married to Stephen Miller, has tested positive for coronavirus.

Very interesting. 



   
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@lawrence Now that’s an interesting turn. The web is tightening!



   
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 lynn
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@allyn

Until that monster came to inhabit the White House, I never in my life wished anyone ill, let alone dead. I wish both on him. I have such hatred for him and I don't even feel bad about it. What he and his equally monstrous AG are doing now, shredding the rule of law, making a mockery of the American system of rules, ethics and decency, is enraging, sad, and frankly, fills me with fear. I don't know where this ends folks. Hopefully these terrible people will be held accountable, but I don't know if that will happen. It's a dark day among many dark days.



   
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 lynn
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@laura-f

I grew up in Florida, before Jeb. We had some really great governors, Southern Democrats who were giants in the civil rights movement. Then the whole state started to move right, and now it's pretty much a national laughing stock. I went from FL to NY and so glad I did. The taxes don't bother me. I'm happy to pay them. To an extend Florida will always be home. I hope they can come back and be a better state than they are now. 



   
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Like many, in my dreams I frequently receive messages in the form of a popular song, a pretty clever mnemonic device (thank you, Guides!) to make sure the message (imbedded in the lyrics) really sinks in and that I carry it into my conscious/waking life.  Three nights ago (Tuesday), I had a too-long difficult dream about Trump.  I pretty much never dream about him directly--good thing, 'cuz after being in the eye of his dark energy in that dream, all day Wednesday and most of Thursday (yesterday) I felt physically unwell (queasy, dizzy, disoriented, drained, achy spine, like you do when you have food poisoning).  I'm feeling 100% well now (did not have food poisoning!).  Anyway, here's the song as best I remembered it from the dream (I wrote it down, straight away, in my dream journal), a version of Hall & Oates' 1977 "Rich Girl," altered to personify Trump:

He's a rich man, but he's gone too far
'Cause he knows it don't matter anyway
He could rely on the old man's money
He could rely on the old man's money
It's a bitch man but it's gone too far
'Cause he knows it don't matter anyway
Say money but it won't get him too far
So far gone, on his own
He could get along if he tried to be strong
But he'll never be strong 'cause
He's a rich man, and he's gone too far
'Cause he knows it don't matter anyway...
 
High and dry, out of the rain
It's so easy to hurt others 'cause he can't feel pain...
So far gone
And don't you know that a love can't grow
'Cause there's too much to give, 'cause he'd rather live
For the thrill of it all, oh
He's a rich man, and he's gone too far
'Cause he knows it don't matter anyway
 
In the dream he was tightly surrounded by a few sycophants who were not so much surrounding him as they were glued to and nearly indistinguishable from the (tightening, shrinking) mass of him.  But although becoming smaller, he was still dangerous, sort of like wielding a deadly sting.  Despotic; callous; in way way way beyond his depth; never capable of being strong and now further weakening; frighteningly/freakishly demanding with the volume turned way way up...and only capable of maniacally focusing on a pin-point sized area of concern, completely uncaring/dismissive/belligerantly ignoring all the rest of what loomed all around him. So despicable. So far gone.
 
Again, it was an extremely dark and difficult dream--it took me until now to feel able to "stomach" sharing it here!  


   
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Cross-post from Random Predictions thread:

 

There have been a few solid "windows of opportunity" (i.e., strong potential timelines), for T's exist that have come and gone already. Many of us here saw them in advance and felt certain. Then as the month/day/event we foresaw drew closer, we could sense what I'll call a wobble, as though the train we're collectively riding just got diverted to an alternate set of tracks. The thing we had predicted suddenly evaporated before it even got here.

Anyone with me?

I believe there are several important reasons for this, most having to do with a) the period of incredible upheaval/transition/transformation we're all in, and b) its confluence with a president whose Sun is conjuncted by Uranus (and opposite a fire sign Moon). Uranus is the archetype of unpredictability—of shocks, rebellion, even revolution. He's the very definition of the oppositionally defiant.

Each of these upsets has been terribly upsetting for people here. And rightly so. Which is why I wish I could extend to all of you the depth of my clarity about the fact that whatever comes next, or however hard it is to face his continued presence, he does go. And we will be a better nation because of what we're facing now. This isn't a Pollyanna fairytale. It's a fact. It's the vision I have that never wobbles. Not ever. 



   
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 lynn
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@vestralux

Thank you. xoxo



   
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