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(@april)
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I have to wonder how many women are now looking at their options for sterilization as well? 



   
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(@lyndsayt)
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@jeanne-mayell I saw yesterday that my governor, Gavin Newsome has partnered up with the governors of Oregon and Washington to keep abortion access safe and welcome to all refugees seeking abortion. If I am not mistaken, CA (and possibly the others) are also planning to pay for the airfare/fees associated with the women who are in need in other states. Gavin Newsome also signed a bill in to law yesterday that keeps women and providers here protected from prosecution from these states that will attempt to. There is a video embedded in this link that the governors put out. 

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/24/west-coast-states-launch-new-multi-state-commitment-to-reproductive-freedom-standing-united-on-protecting-abortion-access/

I’ve been back in school studying sociology and even more specifically Women’s health and financial equity and trying to figure out what is next for me career wise. I think it might be time to look in to working for abortion providers to help coordinate the refugees here in to CA 



   
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(@laura-f)
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Posted by: @luminata

@cindy I fully agree with you, although I do see a physical war. We are already looking at the physical war - in Uvalde, in Buffalo, Boulder, Sandy Hook, the Pulse, our churches, our supermarkets, our schools - the very seat of our government. We've been seeing violent war here for 20 plus years and although everyone screams let's not let this become the "norm" it IS the norm. We're in a violent war as we speak. We have just conditioned ourselves to ignore it. 

 

I see things the same way. We are already having a civil war, but no one has the balls to say so and react accordingly.

Of note: ALL the violence is coming from the right. Those in the middle and on the left are not creating their own combat battles.



   
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I'm not sure about anyone else, but I have the feeling of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Not like I'm waiting for another ruling to drop,  but something else is coming. Anyone else getting something on the horizon? 

On Monday the SCOTUS schedule shows it could be the last day for opinions to be rendered till the fall. I'm not feeling that's it. I've wondered if it might be related to Jan 6 hearings. Or possible violence over protests or towards protesters. 

Condemnation from foreign allies have been pouring in. The SCOTUS (minus the 3 dissenters) I don't feel have a clue what they've unleashed or how they personally have diminshed the institution, the people's view of the court, or themselves. It will be an eyeopening experience for them. It's like they are still feeling smug about what they've "acomplished", being clueless about the consequences of their actions. This will change with time.

The total lack of obiding by the founding principles of this nation- the separation of church & state is incredible. I'm saying this as a church member who has keys to her church. Many religions do not agree that life begins at conception, therefore this court has placed jurists' religous view as predominant over others. The founding fathers had differing opinions from these jursists ("originalists"?) on the subject as well. I'm wondering how many lawsuits by non-christian individuals will be forthcoming. 

Before we can get things codified, there will be horror stories that will capture widespread attention. I'm not saying there will be hordes of these misfortunes, but enough to attach residuals to the court and the individuals (jurists, congressmen, senators, TFG) for years. 

Alas, while this is difficult to actually live through, it's like giving birth. Labor is hard & dangerous. You want it to stop. You want the pain to go away. You wonder how much longer you'll have to suffer. But once it's over, you marvel at the joy and love you feel for the new life produced. 



   
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(@laura-f)
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Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

I assume that women who can afford it will drive to Toronto for abortions.   There will likely be YouTubes explaining to women how to set it up.  Am I off base with this? I was in college in Western Mass before Roe was passed and girls would go to Montreal.  However, you did need money and poor women won't have it.  They will use dangerous means and women will die. 

This is why we need to set up Underground Railroads for women in need.

A bright spot today: My husband's employer, Silicon Valley based software firm, announced to all employees that any female employee located in any state where restrictions are happening, the company will pay for travel and expenses of whatever reproductive healthcare they need, whether it's prepartum care or abortion, etc. The email also said something to the effect of "you don't have to agree with this, you don't have to go get an abortion, but you are not permitted to try to prevent us from doing this as long as you choose to remain employed here."

 



   
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Posted by: @laura-f

A bright spot today: My husband's employer, Silicon Valley based software firm, announced to all employees that any female employee located in any state where restrictions are happening, the company will pay for travel and expenses of whatever reproductive healthcare they need, whether it's prepartum care or abortion, etc. The email also said something to the effect of "you don't have to agree with this, you don't have to go get an abortion, but you are not permitted to try to prevent us from doing this as long as you choose to remain employed here."

 

Wow!  That is a strongly worded email.  

Good for them!!!



   
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(@april)
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Ok a small amount of FU to SCOTUS today! Earlier this week, SCOTUS rules that Maine could not exclude religious schools from their voucher program. This tweet is from @santiagomayer.

 

You know how SCOTUS said Maine couldn’t exclude religious schools from their voucher program?

Maine just changed the guidelines to exclude schools that discriminate against LGBTQ+ students.”

 

First good laugh I have had in days.



   
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Posted by: @april

Ok a small amount of FU to SCOTUS today! Earlier this week, SCOTUS rules that Maine could not exclude religious schools from their voucher program. This tweet is from @santiagomayer.

 

You know how SCOTUS said Maine couldn’t exclude religious schools from their voucher program?

Maine just changed the guidelines to exclude schools that discriminate against LGBTQ+ students.”

 

First good laugh I have had in days.

This is great news!!!

Here is an article about what Maine is now doing.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/religious-schools-supreme-court-ruling-lgbtq/



   
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@jeanne-mayell Yes. There are many on the ground efforts already in place for helping those in need of abortion services. These efforts will be strengthened by average citizens, and there is a group of Western states that are stepping up to provide help as well. 

Post Roe America by Robin Marty has very good info. I read it when the decision "leaked".

The underground railroad for services is in place and will get better.



   
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@laura-f Yep. I'm not happy about the hot civil war and really not happy that no one will acknowledge it. And yes, the right is the primary source of violence. There is some on the left, but not much. This goes back to Timothy McVeigh - even further. Honestly, the Civil War never ended, just cloaked itself in white hoods and carried on guerilla style.

 



   
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