Hi everyone,
looks like we had another hit. I predicted that there was secret negotiations and envoys agreement from Trump to Noth Korea, before the emergence of the agreement between Trump and Kim to meet, this late Spring, to negotiate a peace treaty and resolution of the nuclear and other issues. Turns out that this was Pompeo, who was doing secret shuttle diplomacy, and was assisted by others, as well. All of this, as I said, totally outside the normal channels of negotiation and contact, bypassing the State Department, and conducted in secret. Pompeo did the final stage discussions, on a secret trip to Pyongyang, and was rewarded by promotion to Head of the CIA. But please look at my long-term previous predictions regarding Korea. At first they will seem successful, but eventually, it will all unravel, at a later date, and end very badly. all this has been lost in the turmoil over Syria, but please keep a watch on this one, it is a sleeper.
Zoron, That's awesome. I would like to see the actual prediction so I can pull it out and put it on the Prediction Page as a hit with the date predicted. There's a lot of material so go through to find it. I've posted your NK posts here so that perhaps someone can go through and pull out the part about Pompeo's secret talks. Thanks! These are from one Topic area on NK. If there are more, please pull and post for me. Thanks.
Posted 3/11/18: I wish I had good news on this. But did a fairly quick scan, plus divination. The bad news; NOPE, it does not achieve peace. There are moments when it wobbles towards possible agreements and compromises, but ultimately, it collapses.The outcome then is that the only option left, as trump see's it, is the military option. So Late may, we shall see it all unfolding, perhaps as early as april, but probably late may. War by late Summer.
3/12/18: I have been in turmoil, since the peace talks offer was announced. My scanning, meditation, and divination, all showed that after initial indications of success, and determination on both sides to achieve something, it was ultimately going to fail. This would ultimately mean only the military option was available and left, for both sides. The I-Ching readings were remarkable, with strong indications of determination and wanting a resolution by both sides, whose leaders are now trying to "Sell" the peace process to both sides. They are already encountering some difficulties. The original offer was the result, i am reading, of some very hard work by the South Korean Government, whose very physical survival is at stake. The use of the Olympic games as diplomatic cover for discussions, followed by the peace delegation to the North, from Seoul, who then visited Washington, was an unexpected outcome, for both sides. It has placed huge pressures, internationally, on both sides, for peace, not war. On both sides, there are leadership elements who are instinctively opposed, and who will try and prevent things proceeding. This is partly out of fear, and partly out of xenophobia. At the moment, the peace factions are predominant. interestingly, Kim "Sold" the peace process to his own leadership cadre by saying it was a diplomatic trap, that it showed that if there was no peace, it would be because of american opposition and refusal to talk. This would be to North Korea's advantage. To Kim's surprise, the response of trump, to the South korean envoys, was to say yes. Trump, for once, made the right decision. His instincts told him that to say no, would lead to criticism, and he would lose face. But by saying yes, and agreeing to Peace talks, and then if they fail, blaming the Koreans, would be a smart move. Especially as this can be sold to his own supporters in the inner power structure as actually finally clearing the way for a "Shock and awe" military strike on Korea, as "Everything else would have been tried, and failed". (Please see my previous postings on this, about a massive airborne strike from North America on Korea). likewise, re the reaction of Kim. So both sides are now "Locked in" to talks. They are now being prepared for.
Further developments are that the preliminary stages will be a success. International support and mediation will ensure that there is very significant pressure on both sides. Technical discussions will take place. What i got, during meditation, was "This agreement will not be believed, until after it actually takes place". However, then the trouble starts. There are powerful factions and forces on both sides, who will oppose. the North Korean generals will strongly oppose. The Neo-Con elite in America will oppose. Various forces will take measures to prevent or undo the agreement, as they are now doing with the International nuclear treaty with Iran, and especially, the Americans.
So: Success, at the moment, but danger of ultimate failure. This unleashes a war. Trump is using his "Art of the deal" ploy, but this time the stakes are high. he is gambling the lives of about 80 million Americans, in the Western USA, on not failing. In the event the treaty collapses, or is agreed, but prevented from being signed, then the situation will be very grim. A crisis will ensue, and Kim will attack the South, either as a response to the US attacking them, in a preemptive first strike, or as a last ditch gamble to seize the South, after peace process collapse. All the critical decisions have been taken, on both sides, on how to do this, and under what circumstances, if this peace process leads to confrontation and war. I think the timeline plays out over the rest of this year. Lastly, I am reading that there have been secret talks, already, before the South Korean peace mission, using non-governmental agents, and someone who is directly connected to trump, which have been kept completely secret from the main USA Government ministers and people. The Isreali,s have been watching, and making contingency plans, of their own, if the talks fail, and there is a later war. There may be a gap between the ending of talks, and military action. This may last some months, as desperate attempts may be made to fix the problems, by other states. So expect it to lead, inexplicably, to another war, in the Middle East. This is my first extended analysis/scanning of the situation, but at the moment, it is the main timeline. there will certainly be peace talks. but they may, ultimately, not deliver, and could fail.
3/15/18: I think we are now almost approaching the endgame. This situation is, if not the beginning of the end, the end of the beginning. We are now in a transition phase, where steps are going to be taken that are irreversible, and which will determine the fate of america over the next 20 years. At the moment, I do so some sort of conflict over North Korea, as the ultimate outcome. How that will play out, depends on the events this Summer in Washington. It could go several ways. The timeline has not settled into its track yet. it could swerve off into something else, but by August we will have some strong indications of how it is going to play out. I think that now Trump has nailed his flag to the mast, on this one, he will bulldoze through things until he get what he wants, and he will do whatever it takes not to get into a situation where he is seen to be the loser in this situation. Ultimately, this is what is going to lead to disaster over korea. His fear of being made to look a loser. Please see my other posts on this, and read in sequence. You can see then how it develops. I think that the outlines are now established. Elements in the American deep state, who Trump has to satisfy, are already taking various actions to trip up and wreck anything that they do not like the look of. By end of the Summer, this particular dog fight is over, a clear outcome of who is the winning faction, and what they want, will happen. We are in for an interesting Summer. I do not think any war will spread out from any Korean conflict. it will be confined to Asia. The japanese are making their own plans. (They regard Trump as a mad, uncivilised White barbarian, who will probably get them all killed, by his actions.). The Japanese may take maverick action. Also, I am picking up that Putin is looking at all the angles on this one. He seeks to turn Korea to his advantage. There are even ideas floating around in Moscow that triggering a conflict by the Americans would be a good thing, as it would greatly damage them, if that is required. Russia would appear to not be involved. I have also picked up the possibilities, of an attack on an American warship, by a submarine. quite who is responsible is not clear, if this happens. Basically, we are now all hostages to events, and to fate.
3/18/18: The situation Jeanne has outlined is a possibility. It is not yet a probability. It is quand feeling cornered ite possible though, and I am picking this up, that if the Korean crisis goes down into disaster, that there could be a regional nuclear exchange. If Trump does his pre-emptive strike, when the peace negotiations are found to be hollow, then kim will certainly take reprisals. The scale of the massive "Shock and awe" attack on north korea would probably lead to nuclear launches by Kim, against the American west coast, and also he would invade South korea and seize Seoul. This would be a huge international crisis. But i have to emphasise that this is an alternative timeline, it is not at the moment likely, and that at the moment, there are still chances of some kind of peace deal being achieved, along the lines of the Iranian Deal. But the dark element in all this is Trump. he is now clearly unbalanced, delusional, and very dangerous. The Koreans will not attack, unless seriously provoked. But as they say, if you stand next to a wasp nest and keep whacking it with a baseball bat, there will be consequences. But things are a long way yet, from there. The mainstream timeline is running towards some sort of non-military solution. But Trump is unstable. He is a mad roman emperor. completely out of control, and without restraint from Congress. So the timelines could switch over abruptly. We are now all in the hands of fate. The Global community has been hijacked by a Mad American emperor.Cross your fingers. PS I have based the above on the timeline scans, and divination. But remember, the future does not happen, until it stops being the future, and becomes the present. Until then, everything, good or bad, is a probability.
3/28/18
Ok, the wheels are turning. I repost here a previous prediction, about the peace talks.
Further developments are that the preliminary stages will be a success. International support and mediation will ensure that there is very significant pressure on both sides. Technical discussions will take place. What i got, during meditation, was "This agreement will not be believed, until after it actually takes place". However, then the trouble starts. There are powerful factions and forces on both sides, who will oppose. the North Korean generals will strongly oppose. The Neo-Con elite in America will oppose. Various forces will take measures to prevent or undo the agreement, as they are now doing with the International nuclear treaty with Iran, and especially, the Americans.
Well that says it. todays news of kim in beijing, is chilling. it seems there is a lot more going on, in the background. Kim is working to a plan. It is partly to buy time, and partly to get a space in which to clear things for a possible war, if the talks fail. But he is going to concede, at least on the surface, to the Trump deal, that has been secretly negotiated in outline, by back channel diplomacy. But as i predicted, it will not last.
So: Success, at the moment, but danger of ultimate failure. This unleashes a war.
Jeanne, it's here under the date 3/12/18:
Lastly, I am reading that there have been secret talks, already, before the South Korean peace mission, using non-governmental agents, and someone who is directly connected to trump, which have been kept completely secret from the main USA Government ministers and people. The Isreali,s have been watching, and making contingency plans, of their own, if the talks fail, and there is a later war. There may be a gap between the ending of talks, and military action. This may last some months, as desperate attempts may be made to fix the problems, by other states. So expect it to lead, inexplicably, to another war, in the Middle East. This is my first extended analysis/scanning of the situation, but at the moment, it is the main timeline. there will certainly be peace talks. but they may, ultimately, not deliver, and could fail.
and 3/28/18
Well that says it. todays news of kim in beijing, is chilling. it seems there is a lot more going on, in the background. Kim is working to a plan. It is partly to buy time, and partly to get a space in which to clear things for a possible war, if the talks fail. But he is going to concede, at least on the surface, to the Trump deal, that has been secretly negotiated in outline, by back channel diplomacy. But as i predicted, it will not last.
Here is another, earlier prediction from January, Zoron's answer to Laura's dream:
01/22/2018
Laura, I am taking your dream seriously. Dreams are sort of coded, and are like Japanese kabuki plays. It is sometimes almost comical.
But I am VERY concerned about the present Korean situation, and the post Olympics fall out. What I am getting is dangerous elements in the Pentagon who are literally "plotting". Like a cabal. This is very dangerous. I have had repeated dreams of seeing, as from space, a great swarm of aircraft taking off from North American West coast and Alaska, and heading towards North Korea. I keep getting the phrase: "Everything that can fly". which are going to be carrying a large amount of non-nuclear advanced weapons. The plan is to strike North Korea, and to literally sever all land links to china, all bridges, roads, rail links, etc. Plus critical strikes on parts of the electric grid, and grid collapse. this would effectively collapse a functioning Korean economy. The plan is a very dangerous gamble, thought up by equally dangerous elements in the pentagon. It is labelled "Contingency plan", for a swarm non-nuke strike. if it happens, the North Koreans will strike back, with their nuclear stockpile. The koreans have no intention of otherwise striking America. So right wing elements in the USA are the key danger. I have to stress that this is a possibility, on a certain time line, but that at the moment, it all depends on the Pentagon, and Trump. he, in turn, is constrained, by the internal trump regime Junta of three ex-generals, who serve in Cabinet. (yes, it really is that bad). I am flagging this up in this post as an alert, with 20% probability, but hope that this connects with what others are sensing and reporting. It does have a capacity however, to escalate rapidly, due to the very unstable USA internal politics. So regard this as an alert/warning. Can others do a scan and see what they get.
Tee, thank you! I didn’t have time to read through it all. So great to get the help.
Hi everyone,
looks like we had another hit. I predicted that there was secret negotiations and envoys agreement from Trump to Noth Korea, before the emergence of the agreement between Trump and Kim to meet, this late Spring, to negotiate a peace treaty and resolution of the nuclear and other issues. Turns out that this was Pompeo, who was doing secret shuttle diplomacy, and was assisted by others, as well. All of this, as I said, totally outside the normal channels of negotiation and contact, bypassing the State Department, and conducted in secret. Pompeo did the final stage discussions, on a secret trip to Pyongyang, and was rewarded by promotion to Head of the CIA. But please look at my long-term previous predictions regarding Korea. At first they will seem successful, but eventually, it will all unravel, at a later date, and end very badly. all this has been lost in the turmoil over Syria, but please keep a watch on this one, it is a sleeper.
Zoron, are you certain that a NK war will be unleashed in 2018?
Zoron, I want you to be wrong about the turmoil happening in the later date. I really do. You see, the future is something we create ourselves. If you keep thinking a terrible fate will happen, nothing will change! You just gotta calm down and think positively about the future. Believe that it will NOT end very badly at all. You gotta predict not of bad stuff for the future. Stop dreaming about apocalypses. It's important to start believing of a POSITIVE future. I don't want to believe that that Syrian gas attack WASN'T a gas attack. No more wars please. I cannot stand it. Zoron, things will work out fine in the Korean peninsula. I'm sure of it! Just stop thinking of the bad stuff and believe they WON'T happen. Got it? I'm trying to help.
Dillon, I understand your concerns, but the flaw I see here is that Zoron doesn't control the future. He picks up on what people are thinking/planning, and he forecasts accordingly. Not everything he predicts comes true, because people change their minds, or their plans are intercepted and interrupted (divinely or otherwise), and the bad thing that could have happened, ends up not happening.
I think Zoron is pretty accurate on picking up the nuances that go through the minds of people in power. I feel he's been accurate in seeing their intentions, their fears, even their secrets. But I do believe that so-called "fate" can change, even at the last possible second, through impressions, thoughts, choices, and actions.
Small example: When I was 18, I was driving erratically due to emotional duress and lost control of my car. My vehicle rolled over, and it could easily have ended up on the adjacent crowded freeway. I had no control over the situation at that point. But I felt instant regret, and a deep sadness not only for myself, but for my loved ones and especially for anyone I might accidentally hurt with my out-of-control vehicle. I wasn't even wearing a seat belt (stupid).
Well, as soon as I felt that sense of regret mixed with sadness, an invisible hand pushed me down and kept me safe while the car rolled. I came out of that with nothing worse than a scratch on my elbow. My car was destroyed, but nobody was harmed, and somehow my vehicle did not end up on the freeway even though its momentum was taking it in that direction. I did nothing in that situation but feel remorse, and somehow, that prompted the outcome of the situation to change at the very last second.
I get that Zoron's visions are scary. They terrify me. But he's only picking up what might be, if certain individuals push forward with their crazy ideas. I like to think that the spirits, guides, and angels on the other side are helping us out, and that the light workers on this side are doing their part, to prevent worst-case scenarios from happening. From what you've written, I feel that you believe this as well, and you're trying to get everyone aligned to envision better scenarios for humanity.
I agree that envisioning a positive outcome can lead to a better future, but I feel that each person has a different and unique role to play. Zoron is more of a prophet, warning us of what might be if humanity doesn't alter its course. And I think that you, Dillon, are a visionary, so please continue to hold on to that beautiful image of a world of peace and cooperation. We need both.
BTW, I see myself as a bridge, and an empath. I feel people's emotions, and I try to create bridges of understanding between people :) Unfortunately, I'm not psychic, prophetic, or visionary. But like I said, each person has a role to play and a gift to share.
Love to all <3
Dear Grace, your beautiful name says who you are. Thank you for being a bridge for us. KB