@fajm Both reasons. Within the same small group of nurses. A variety of ages, male and female. There is a lot of wariness for both understandable reasons and paranoid reasons. Of course, my experience is a tiny snapshot, which is worth little, so don't quote me. I am hoping the majority of nurses will gladly take it!
thanks @lowtide - still, it is concerning, considering the medical profession, at its core, is a science-based field.
Nurses not wanting to take the vaccine because of legitimate concerns is one thing, but saying no to a vaccination because of reasons such as 5G makes me inclined to agree with @mas1581, these people should consider changing profession (I know you agree with mas1581 too).
@fajm. I do agree. It is difficult to understand the level of denial of reality and conspiracy thinking that exists until you are confronted with it by people you trust. These are excellent clinicians who work their hearts out. But there is a glitch in their thinking, off duty, in my opinion.
Just wanted to clarify your assumption of the side effects of the covid vaccine. You will get the fatigue, aches, lethargy, etc, but the fever has been high(102-103) and the aches described as quite intense in a significant number of people in the trials. Thankfully, it usually lasts 48 hours or less. Just want everyone to know what they are possibly in for
"I'm sure internationally you will need paperwork to enter some countries coming from the US for some period of time. " (MAS1581)
On the news last night (forget which one) there was a story about the vaccine that mentioned a card people would have to carry that would have the dates of when a person got the vaccine, about the size of a license.
I also recently had 2 doses of shingles vaccine; it wasn't bad, just made my arm sore...
First, you have to ask the question "Do I really trust my Healthcare to someone who believes Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci are teaming up to create a vaccine to track people with 5g when we all already have tracking devices called cellphones attached to us?" If a nurse told me that, I'd demand they leave my care team immediately and wouldn't let them even bring me a meal in the hospital.
If I knew a nurse who believed that, I would want that nurse to be given some training. Just in case someone is nervous that vaccines can implant tracking devices into people:
Such tracking technology does not exist except in science fiction. It needs a battery. You can't inject a battery or tracking device via a needle.
You can get a chip implanted in your pet's skin but it doesn't track your pet's movement or location. The chip has your phone number in it in case your pet gets lost and is picked up and delivered to a vet who has a scanner. Also that chip can't be liquified and injected via a needle.
2. As @mas1581 said, people can already be tracked via their cell phones. Also your license plate, driver's license, car registration also help with locating you via police in case you decide to throw out your phone.
Given the widespread use of technology that enables authorities to track people, such as cell phones, DNA (Twenty Three and Me) testing, and Internet use, it surprises me that people need to invent a way to be tracked that doesn't even exist.
From a Slate article on this question:
In dogs or humans, these RFID microchips only transmit information; for one to track you, it would also need to receive information from, say, cell towers, so that it could receive the data to figure out its location, then transmit it back to the tower. That’s also a pretty power-intensive transaction, which means your chip would need some juice from a battery pack. Think about how quickly your phone dies when trying to find cell service in a spotty area. A GPS tracker needs that same amount of power.
https://slate.com/technology/2020/05/microchips-bill-gates-track-people-vaccine.html
Oh boy. I hope you all know I was joking when I said “maybe I’ll get better cell phone reception”. I don’t believe ANY of this garbage!
Unfortunately I have had the distinct displeasure of being around some people who do.
Thanks for the explanations and talking points if I find myself in such a conversation again. More than likely, I’ll just walk away. There is always work to do. People who believe this garbage can’t be convinced of anything.
My fear is that the Covid vaccine might prompt a similar response as the two-part Shingrix vaccine (for Shingles) which many people experienced as just awful. So bad that many refused to take the second shot -- even though that jeopardized their future immunity. Personally, I forced myself to take both shots (6 months apart) so as to obtain maximum immunity but was sick as a dog for about 3 days each time. Felt almost like "germ warfare" and was frightening. Hope to God this new Covid vaccine is nothing like that...
That is my fear too. For some it is showing to be a pretty bad 2 days after vaccination and many wont want to return to get the booster. With the vast majority of the population not knowing immunology, they will think its not worth it since they are already "immune" from the first shot.