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(@lovendures)
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@jeanne-mayell

Your state is one of the most vaccinated states isn't it? Shouldn't that  bring some peace of mind to the indoor snorkel swimmers? 



   
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Posted by: @lovendures

@jeanne-mayell

Your state is one of the most vaccinated states isn't it? Shouldn't that  bring some peace of mind to the indoor snorkel swimmers? 

I really don’t think we have to be too concerned about chlorinated swimming pools.



   
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@lovendures It would be interesting to figure out what factors affect a state's vaccination rate.  A rough glance looks like it's blueness of the state that determines vaccination rates.

As of May 25th: Total US: 40% fully vaccinated. 131 million people

States range from 53% in Vermont to 27% in Mississippi.

1. Vermont
Number of people fully vaccinated: 331,529
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.13

2. Maine
Number of people fully vaccinated: 710,625
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.87

3. Connecticut
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,846,899
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.8

4. Massachusetts
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,499,591
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 50.77

5. Rhode Island
Number of people fully vaccinated: 529,682
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 50.

6. New Jersey
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,198,864
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 47.27

7. Hawaii
Number of people fully vaccinated: 664,651
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.94

8. New Mexico
Number of people fully vaccinated: 973,947
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.45

9. Maryland
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,752,911
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.54

10. New York 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 8,824,107
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.36

11. Minnesota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,518,108
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.65

12. District of Columbia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 314,050
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.5

13. Washington
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,370,529
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.26

14. Colorado
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,526,489
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.87

15. Wisconsin
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,533,467
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.51

16. Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,709,569
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.46

17. Oregon
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,809,594
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 42.9

18. Iowa
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,348,285
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 42.73

19. Pennsylvania
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,378,692
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 42.01

20. South Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 370,948
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 41.93

21. California
Number of people fully vaccinated: 16,463,950
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 41.67

22. Delaware
Number of people fully vaccinated: 404,308
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 41.52

23. Nebraska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 799,467
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 41.33

24. New Hampshire
Number of people fully vaccinated: 561,808
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 41.32

25. Michigan
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,088,004
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.93

26. Ohio
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,590,074
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.27

27. Illinois
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,926,691
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.88

28. Alaska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 283,291
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.73

29. Florida
Number of people fully vaccinated: 8,108,043
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.75

30. Kentucky
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,678,845
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.58

31. Kansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,094,472
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.57

32. Montana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 401,149
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.53

33. North Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 274,335
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.

34. Nevada
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,100,149
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 35.72

35. North Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,711,655
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 35.39

36. Arizona
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,559,836
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 35.17

37. Texas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 9,966,234
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.37

38. Indiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,312,972
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.36

39. Missouri
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,068,170
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.7

40. West Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 601,629
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.57

41. Oklahoma
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,313,936
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.21

42. South Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,695,996
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 32.94

43. Idaho
Number of people fully vaccinated: 573,143
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 32.07

44. Utah
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,016,859
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 31.72

45. Wyoming
Number of people fully vaccinated: 181,453
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 31.35

46. Tennessee
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,120,958
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 31.06

47. Georgia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,258,138
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 30.69

48. Louisiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,421,591
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 30.58

49. Arkansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 915,272
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 30.33

50. Alabama
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,415,771
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 28.87

51. Mississippi
Number of people fully vaccinated: 798,278
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 26.82



   
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Posted by: @lowtide

I really don’t think we have to be too concerned about chlorinated swimming pools.

I found out that you are right that we don't have to be concerned about chorinated indoor pools.  Because chlorine vapor is highly poisonous, building codes for indoor chlorinated pools require maximum ventilation.  Also when people are doing laps, they tend to breathe into the water.  If you are really worried while doing laps, you could use a snorkel and a breathable cover over the part in the air which would at least prevent a covid-sneeze from reaching you. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell.  Unvaccinated people, higher risk, but in a pool people usually allow space between themselves and others.  I don’t think transmission is likely. Within six feet (close contact) of an infected person for 15 minutes without a mask is most likely route of transmission.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/parks-rec/aquatic-venues.html



   
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@jeanne-mayell The California percentages are disappointing. The state is not as blue as everyone thinks. The bluest parts of the state are on the coast.  It gets very red moving east. 



   
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@lowtide not to mention that in a pool area, the air is also going to have a much higher ratio of chlorine, and any "shedding" that happens is going to be into an environment that is highly toxic to the virus, whether into the air or the water.



   
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@jeanne-mayell

Yes, it does seem that more blue states are getting vaccinated.

I will be curious to see where the purple states fall within a month.  Also, how they will re-work statistics to include eligible children.

 



   
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Things I noticed today while being in public in AZ.

1-  Walgreens had Covid 19 antibody test for sale on a shelf.  I had not seen those before and it struck me that a year ago we were talking about how good it would be to have an antibody test to take at home one day.  Well, that day is here.  

2-Most many people still where masks while visiting stores but there are less doing so.

3- Personal milestone.  I chose not to wear a mask to my chiropractor appointment.  One other person was in the waiting room and we were far apart.  Masks were not suggested.  The person who came in around the time I did  asked about masks and was told it was not  necessary for the visit. 

Not wearing one felt...odd but ok.

I did wear one at Walgreens and at my grocery store.

4-Grocery carts. Am I the only one who misses people sanitizing your carts and greeting you at the entry of the store.  I think this should be something that STAYS after re-opening.  I mean who doesn't want a clean cart???

( I tend to be a little germ phobic anyway so ...yeah, I miss that.)

 

 

 

 



   
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My extended family maintains a shore house in the vicinity of Cape May, New Jersey. I went down there with my parents two weeks ago. The CDC had just relaxed its mask guidelines for fully vaccinated people and the traffic going in and out of Cape May was what you'd expect to see in July. It was only about 68 degrees and the lifeguards aren't on duty until Memorial Day, but the beach was rather crowded with sunbathers. Everyone seemed to be celebrating the vaccine rollout and the relaxed mask guidelines. I walked a bit on the promenade next to the beach, unmasked. There were quite a few other pedestrians, and I came within 6 feet of other unmasked people, but the vigorous sea breeze made me pretty confident that I wouldn't contract anything. People were mindful of putting on their masks when they walked into shops and restaurants, but I'm not sure how cognizant they will still be once beach season starts in earnest this weekend.

I'm holding my breath as things seem to lull in Europe and North America. This isn't a prediction, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's another surge in infections once the weather turns cooler or even in mid-summer. I keep thinking about the spread of variants and the effects of massive numbers of people in the northern hemisphere adopting an "anything goes" attitude; odds are, unvaccinated people will join the summer celebrations en masse. When I saw the news today that the CDC would no longer be investigating mild "breakthrough" covid infections (infections in people who are fully vaccinated), a red flag went up in my mind. It just seems like one more layer of vigilance is being prematurely discarded. 

@jeanne-mayell Since the decision to get vaccinated is as much a social decision as it is a science-based calculation, people who live in states with high levels of social trust are probably more likely to get the shot. Those states' political persuasions just happens to reflect community cohesion. This phenomenon can also explain why small countries such as Bhutan, Mongolia, and the Seychelles are almost fully vaccinated while vaccine suspicion seems to be thriving in less cohesive places like Europe and the US.



   
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