Hi, here in the UK, the wheels are coming off of the wagon. In the space of a single week, a whole series of mega-corporations have announced that unless the Government gets a deal from the EU soon, on BREXIT, and a treaty, they are leaving and pulling out of the UK. Major auto manufacturers, AIRBUS, (The size of Boeing and makes all its wings here in UK,) plus the Japanese are leaving. It is going to seriously damage the UK economy. The rising tide of hate speech, right wing anger, and the nasty atmosphere that is developing, is now driving whole sections of the upper middle class, that have assets, to start making preparations to leave, and move to the EU mainland, before the exit of the UK from the Union makes that difficult. They have lost faith in the direction of the country, and the right wing extremism is making them nervous. I say all this as background, and as I am picking up some dark stuff from the near future, over the next two years. it is clear that the hard line extremist Right here, are led by people who will stop at nothing to bring about the harsh hard line free market economy and society that they want. I am going to do a large post on this later this week. The UK outcome does not look good.
Zoron, I'm not getting that at all. Difficult economic times ahead, yes, but had line free market ideology, no. Rather the opposite. I see protectionist measures being taken, which by the way, given the state of the economy when they get implemented, won't be a bad thing. The hard line free market people were all in favour of the EU, it doesn't get much more hard line free market than that.
I also see Labour winning on the next elections.
Hello Zoron. I'm a Brit living in an EU country (recently took the citizenship of my adopted country so I'm technically no longer British).
What are Theresa May's intentions with Brexit? As far as I know she was on the remain side so why did she choose to be the one to make Brexit happen? Pure opportunism? And does she really think they can get a good deal or are they secretly counting on no deal? I can't tell whether the government is delusional or whether it's all part of a sinister plan.
Can't believe it's been two years since the vote. That was a surreal and emotional day!
Hi Demeter,
The BREXIT crisis is partly a right-wing plot, heavily financed with dark money, and partly stupidity and right-wing madness, and partly that about half of the population of England are right-wing, reactionary, quite racist, and xenophobic. This is balanced by the voters in Scotland, and Wales, who are less reactionary, but could not this time outweigh the right. it was fought as an immigration and racial issue, with lots of lies, scare stories in the mainstream right wing media, and biased TV coverage. We are now stuck with the result. Theresa May is now openly derided and jeered at, as prime minister, as it is clear that she is utterly incompetent, cannot and will not make decisions, and appears to be terrified of the situation she finds herself in. The Conservative party is almost on the point of splitting. The left here in the UK are split as well, and the Labour Party leader has lost his nerve on the issue.
Divination has given me some clues. It looks bad. We are heading for a hard BREXIT, without an agreement with the EU States and Parliament, that they can accept. So basically, I see very nasty things happening. We are headed for an extremist right wing regime, with severe free market policies. There will also be an economic crisis, as the hard border exits large numbers of foreign companies, and exports fall catastrophically. I get that there will be a lot of political turmoil, public protests, and even civil disturbance and violence. There will be a crisis involving the Scottish Government, and severe disruption in Ireland. There will be an attempt to seal the Northern Irish border that endangers the peace treaty. But mainly, I am getting the future volatility of the situation. The UK will go through a very bad time.
Zoron, thank you. As always I follow this topic closely as it affects me directly as a EU citizen in UK. I love this country and love my city and the area where I live, it is overwhelming majority remain and people are just lovely, so Im in a bubble but know lots of people have had racist abuse since the referendum, all the closet racists are out now and feel that they have a voice. Young people feel betrayed and disappointed and scared about their future. We as a family are thinking about moving to another EU country as our business would collapse without free trade agreement. Lots and lots of educated, hard working Europeans are leaving. Lots of British citizens in EU are feeling neglected and scared about their future, for example access to health care in their new country.
I don't see anything that could be called a "hard border". Some sort of border checks will appear, but they will be as quick and simple as humanly possible. Anything else could disrupt trade to such an extent that supermarket shelves would go empty.
Zoron, you keep saying that you see a government that is in favour of "extreme free market ideas" and at the same time would impose a "hard border". It has to be one thing or the other. They're logically incompatible. Free market ideology goes with open borders.
Demeter, I don't think that May was really on the remain side. I think she was a closet brexiteer, and just pretended to be on the remain side to keep in good terms with remainers. The feeling I get is that she honestly believes a deal is possible, and she's trying to get there. And some sort of deal will definitely happen. But it will be incomplete, missing a lot of parts. And that will cause a lot of problems and economic pain. But it won't be "no deal".
All the resignations today, first Davis and now Boris Johnson! What are the chances of a General Election? Or a second referendum?
May will fall. There will be no second referendum. I see a shadow over Westminster.
Who will take her seat? If Bojo becomes prime minister... nobody will take uk seriously. I feel all this is going to be huge disaster. Very unsettling. We need a miracle.
I was not surprised at the situation, and the resignations. It looks bad. it will get worse. The next four weeks are crucial. May will not survive, ultimately, but will cling on for a while. The Tories will try and find a compromise leader, but will face serious trouble from the rest of the parliament. The Ulster Unionists will end up in disaster, and we will end up with a non functioning Zombie Government. An election is possible,. If that happens, Corbyn will win, by a narrow margin but that may change. Corbyn is anti-EU. So the disaster will continue. The time lines are all over the place. will watch carefully. Its going to take a week to settle down, and to get a clear scanning of the situation. What a mess.