@seeker4, re Scarborough -- doncha sometimes wish Mika carried a roll of duct tape when Joe starts his preachy rants? Although often her eye rolls say it all.
@deetoo Definitely. When he starts to ask a guest a question, they have to wait until he's done with his own opinion before they can speak. It's priceless.
More numerology of 45:
There are many numerology traditions where different numbers have different meanings. In the last example and this one, I am using numerology which dates back to the early Middle Ages, the Kabbala, which is even older with Celtic, Greek and Roman roots. The meanings are reflected in the Tarot Major Arcana cards.
1.20.2017 is the day Donald Trump took office: This date adds up to = 13 and 4.
- 13 is Death.
- Four is the Emperor or dark Patriarch.
- So 1/20/17 was the beginning of the death of the dark male ruler.
Contrast this date with the upcoming Inauguration: 1.20.2021 which add up to 8, the sign of infinity and in the tarot it is karma or justice.
More numerology of 45:
There are many numerology traditions where different numbers have different meanings. In the last example and this one, I am using numerology which dates back to the early Middle Ages, the Kabbala, which is even older with Celtic, Greek and Roman roots. The meanings are reflected in the Tarot Major Arcana cards.
1.20.2017 is the day Donald Trump took office: This date adds up to = 13 and 4.
- 13 is Death.
- Four is the Emperor or dark Patriarch.
- So 1/20/17 was the beginning of the death of the dark male ruler.
Contrast this date with the upcoming Inauguration: 1.20.2021 which add up to 8, the sign of infinity and in the tarot it is karma or justice.
Is there a way in this numerology approach to incorporate decisions/choices that Trump has made? Otherwise it just seems to go with the idea that all things (including choices) are predetermined and therefore that wicked people cannot be held accountable for their wicked choices. Trump's fate in the election is presumably contingent on the choices he makes, which influences the choices that millions of Americans make in their election votes. Plus, there's the idea of karma that responds to the choices one makes in life. I'm curious to see what numerology can reflect from that perspective.
@yofisofi, I believe in karma - that people are accountable for their choices. We are all one. So when you harm another person or any being on this earth, including animals and trees, you feel that harm within your being. Some people, like T, push that pain away from himself, but he is filled with fear. He lives in hell.
The one time that numerology really stunned me, in a good way, was when my teacher David Hall gave me a reading back in the early 1980's in which he told me that he saw cycles of 6. He said, "six days, six weeks, six months, six years." I went home and plotted those dates and waited to see what would happen. What unfolded was a remarkable series of wondrous events on those dates that were pivotal for me. I loved that! David was seeing the spiral of my life's progression. I would also add that the sixth month of pregnancy was my favorite, and the sixth decade of my life was when I started teaching and started this community. Now that is numerology at its best for me. (David passed about ten years ago. He invented the timeline method of reading an individual that I later turned into a way to read the Collective.)
@jeannemayell 2 questions: When you were adding 45 & 2020 to get 13 why didn't you add 1&3 for 4? and how did you get 19 out 1.20,20? I get 7.
@debbie-m For the 2017 Inauguration, when you add up 1 + 20 + 2017 it adds to 2,038. 2+0+3+8 = 13. 1+3 = 4. So it reduces to 13 (death) and 3 (emperor or patriarch).
For 2021 Inauguration, I accidentally used 2020 instead of 2021, but the numbers come out to 8 not 7. Still, it provides a very different result than I got before.
8 is the sign of infinity, and things changing into their opposite.
But it also is the number of karma or karmic justice.
So this outcome shifts to something uncertain, and that actually fits how I have felt about what is coming. I had a vision at the Read the Future night that keeps pulsing in my head -- that a big elephant was obscuring my view after the election, and the sense of the Republicans blocking the outcome while they stall.
I feel it's a karmic battle that is being worked out in the Collective. The GOP is going to try something terrible. I say, "try" but doesn't mean they succeed.
@yofisofi, I believe in karma - that people are accountable for their choices. We are all one. So when you harm another person or any being on this earth, including animals and trees, you feel that harm within your being. Some people, like T, push that pain away from himself, but he is filled with fear. He lives in hell.
I'm not that a big on using numerology to understand every little thing. We all have our way of finding insight and I like numerology for just big concepts, like calculating people's soul numbers.
Thanks for describing how numerology can provide meaningful insight about one's life progression, with the spiral of sixes in your case.
Yes, I know you believe in karma, and I do too. It's just that the inauguration dates (codified in U.S. law), president number, and year would not change if another person had been president instead, so I struggle to find the connection of these numbers to the resulting message that presumably tells us something about Trump's karma. Also, if Trump had made better decisions and was able to be a competent leader of our democracy, the election outcome could be different, but the numbers above would still be the same. Hence my confusion.
Also, if T had made better decisions and was able to be a competent leader of our democracy, the election outcome could be different, but the numbers above would still be the same. Hence my confusion.
If I may insert my take on this: Quite some time ago I was witness to a similar discussion about karma and predestination, but that time, as it applied to astrology instead of numeralogy. The astrologer was of the opinion that the stars do not *cause* events or *create* people's personalities-- but instead they are a manifestation of the synchronicities connecting all things. It is hard to explain-- but essentially the idea is that looking for cause and effect is the wrong idea. Kind of like in a movie, the background music does not create the plot nor does the plot literally create the music-- instead they are harmonious in mood and tone (at least in a well orchestrated movie). (You hear scary music-- you expect a monster to pop out. And you see a monster on screen-- you expect scary music to be playing. )
I have always found this to be a reasonably satisfying explanation. I have only rudimentary knowledge of numeralogy but it seems the same principles could apply.
@earthangel I just now decided to tune it all out for the next four days, too. It's the media hype designed to put fear in people's hearts. Not gonna do it. So I am joining you to focus on the positive and block the rest out.