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This article addresses the US Pluto Return (among other transits affecting the US chart) and the author lists the following dates when we'll feel it most strongly:

The United States’ Pluto return is exact on February 21, 2022 but effects will begin to be felt as early as January 2021.

To clarify: the current situation relates to the first transit I mentioned in this post: Jupiter conjunct Pluto. Think of Jupiter as the magnifying glass being used to identify what will need to be repaired during the Pluto return.

The United States’ Pluto return has four “peaks” (moments of high intensity):

  • February 2022
  • July 2022
  • December 2022
  • October 2023

After that final peak in October 2023, this return’s energy will begin to dissipate, but it will be in effect until January 2024.

A Pluto return brings up the following:

  • Tear down structures and systems that are rotten at the core and start over.
  • Forget band-aid solutions; identify foundational problems so you can come up with foundational solutions.
  • Face all the “ugly things” that have been swept under the rug.
  • Embrace change.

 



   
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@gbs Thank you for that.  I saw that a few months ago but couldn't find it again. ?



   
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@gbs

I have absolutely no understanding of astrology but I am sure hoping your article about Pluto Return comes true. It definitely gives me hope for a better future. 



   
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@gbs I am fascinated with your post and those dates. Four days before the 2016 election, I got a very bad feeling and asked spirit to explain what was happening. I saw the symbol for Pluto (Hades) and Percephone (a flower) and thought of the Greek myth of the abduction of Percephone or our innocence.  So I'm curious how it might fit with the Pluto return.



   
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What leapt out at me from the article about the Pluto Return is that its first influence began to be felt in January 2021, at the time of the insurrection. I wonder if in February or one of the subsequent Pluto peaks, we'll be forced to confront the erosion of our democracy in some significant way. 

Or if your vision had to do with the abduction of democracy, if you will, by brute force.

 



   
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@gbs When I had my 2016 vision, I felt spirit was telling me that Pluto would be in charge for some time until the people had had enough of the devastation wreaked by his dark ways.  It is a matter of when we have had enough of the dark side of humanity destroying our world. 

In the Greek myth, Percephone's mother, the Goddess of the Grains, went into such mourning that the land went fallow and the grains stopped growing. Then the people rose up and said, "Enough!" And Zeus had to bring her back and restore springtime.  

Pluto is also about the dark unconscious. We grow when we are forced to look inward at ourselves. The Pandemic forced us to stay home and quarantine. Climate devastation is wreaking the crops. And the murdering of our young men by White Supremasts and thugs, is more darkness than we are going to allow.   



   
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I think the most salient detail of the Persephone myth is that she doesn't permanently return from the Underworld. Instead she becomes wed to Hades and spends part of each year in his realm, and that's why we have seasons. So for me the Persephone/Hades myth is all about balance and accommodating the shadow.

To become spiritually evolved one must integrated one's shadow. But most people in the industrial modern world (not just Americans) are in denial of their dark sides and live with the conceited belief that they only inhabit the light. When we deny our shadow self (a form of spiritual fascism) our dark side grows to be destructive, and that's part of the reason why there's so much darkness in the world now. So I think this Pluto return can help Americans at least integrated their shadows and lead more balanced lives. I'm not sure how this relates to non-Americans.

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I also have to thank you for linking that article. The writing and explanations are very lucid. The author says that Pluto returns are somewhat analogous to Saturn returns, which first occur when a person is 28.5 years old. What's interesting is that's how old I will be when the US's Pluto return ends in Jan. 2024.



   
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@jeanne-mayell 

I think the most salient detail of the Persephone myth is that she doesn't permanently return from the Underworld. Instead she becomes wed to Hades and spends part of each year in his realm... So for me the Persephone/Hades myth is all about balance and accommodating the shadow.

Yes. And when I asked spirit on October 30, 2016 what was going to happen with the election, I saw a battle and Pluto emerging large and victorious and ruling for four horrific years. I knew in that moment that the flower of our innocence would be taken away.  The American collective, (if we can even say there is an American collective, divided as we are) had lived in delusional innocence. T's election ended that.  Four horrific years ensued, the last one plunged into quarantine.  I think we are going to emerge from our pandemic isolation when Pluto returns at the end of February, and spring comes. 



   
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@gbs

I also have to thank you for linking that article. The writing and explanations are very lucid. The author says that Pluto returns are somewhat analogous to Saturn returns, which first occur when a person is 28.5 years old. What's interesting is that's how old I will be when the US's Pluto return ends in Jan. 2024.

You may be in for an even more transformative Saturn Return than most people have.  That's not necessarily a bad thing--- just "interesting times" .



   
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Speaking of Saturn returns, I think most people here have been through at least one, and it might be interesting to compare experiences.    To all:  Did you go through any significant changes at about age 29? Or not?   

When I was a few months shy of 29, I was suddenly offered a job that I wasn't expecting and wasn't entirely ready for.  I moved halfway across the country and away from my BF ? .  It was quite an upheaval.



   
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