Here's the thread @SisterMoon, you said you wanted to start. Thanks for the idea. ❤️
The other night I had a dream that was definitely of the "message bearing" variety. I don't have questions about the meaning of the dream, as that was crystal clear. (It was a personal dream, not anything that had to do with the world at large.)
In the dream, however, I asked a question and received a direct and immediate response: "Soon."
I found it surprising because this is a question I had wanted to ask for awhile but I am very poor at controlling myself in the dream state. So the fact that I was able to do so is notable, first and foremost, especially since it seemed to happen so quickly.
At any rate, my question to all of you is: How do you define "soon" from a spiritual standpoint? I'm not expecting 'soon' on a human scale - even though I'd like 'soon' to mean 'in the next week,' my feeling is that it could be several weeks, but likely not several months. That's just my feeling though, and I'm just curious to know how others would define it.
I rarely have such direct dreams so I always try to ponder all angles when I do :)
Thanks, all.
@sistermoon Thanks for posting this question and any other spiritual questions which are just so much fun to ponder.
I don't know if what I'm going to say will help you, but here goes. When I get a vision or dream, I also get a sense of timing which is not always perfect but close. It's an energy feeling, not dates or time explained in the human sense of time, like days, weeks, years. But a felt sense of how close the vision or event is to me.
Back in 1985 famous psychics were saying the seas were going to rise and flood 20 feet inland in 1987. I had a dream that I was on Cape Cod and I was nervous about the tumultuous waves around me. Then a voice came in and said, "This is not going to happen now." I took that to mean it would not happen during any time frame I might worry about.
So if I got "Soon" as you did, I'd search my own feeling of what "soon" means regarding that particular vision, again, in an energy or expectation sense. Would months feel like soon or weeks or days? Apologies if this answer is not helpful.
The only other way I could help would be to give you an actual reading and throw cards and get my own felt sense of it.
Thank you so much for starting this thread, @jeanne-mayell!
When I had the dream, I immediately sensed 'soon' to be a matter of several weeks - but beyond that, I had no clearer sense. I guess if I had to pin down a time I might say any time between now and October? Although I'm not sure what makes me say this.
I thought it would be interesting to know how others define that in a message or vision (not so much as it would pertain to my dream, just in general) - but I see your point that it often needs to be intuited by the person receiving the message and that there is no 'one size fits all' kind of answer.
I'll let you know if (and, if so, when!) my 'soon' comes to fruition!
This will probably be viewed as being very negative, but for myself, if/when I hear "soon" in the context of a dream or vision, I always feel like spirit is just playing with me. Kind of like when you ask your mom or dad for something, and they say "We'll see". In my experience, it's a kind of non-answer that lets them pretend they answered you without actually doing so. It also tends to give people what I would call unreasonable hope that something is coming.
If I hear "soon" in a vision, reading, or dream, I automatically assume that whatever I asked about either 1) isn't going to happen at all, 2) it's something that they don't want to tell me, or 3) that it's irrelevant and not something I need to be concerned about.
That's interesting! I've been told before that I was asking the wrong question or focusing on something irrelevant. I'm not sure if that applies here, but I'll definitely give it some thought.
Of course, I'll know one way or another -- it'll either happen or it won't. It's the waiting to find out that's hard. ?
@sistermoon I have heard the word “soon” when I question when something will happen. Usually, it’s an event that I’ve been eagerly anticipated and I’ve learned that “soon” does not mean instantaneous or within hours or days. It usually means in the near future and I’ve found it to be accurate in that sense.
Lately my dreams have been more vivid and about people I know. I don't always remember the whole message,but try to put bits and pieces together. They have become positive and uplifting mostly. I used to have scary nightmares often.Recently, my husband and I have started a plant based diet for health reasons and environmental. My dream was of us climbing a mountain and he arrived ahead of me ( he is a bit older ) to celebrate turning 100yr. in full health ! Spirit was trying to tell me this is the right path. On another note- I saw Trump in meditation as a shriveled up raisin..... that describes him perfectly !
@Molly I loved your post, and was interested in your feeling so much healthier on a plant-based diet. Keep us posted on how that goes. And what you are eating. We should start a plant-based diet thread with recipes. When I got to the end about the raisin, I burst out laughing.
Hello all!
I wasn't sure where to post this, but figured this thread was a good one. (@jeanne-mayell if you know of a better place, feel free to move!) This is about deja vu and getting back on the right(?) path.
So I am sitting here listening to Jeanne's interview with Trey Downes (great stuff!) and having a bit of deja vu. I used to get deja vu more often when I was younger, but it has been absent for the most part for years.
However, just in the last week or so, our little family has been working through some difficult things with our kids/family dynamic and mental health and *finally* hit a positive turning point. We are cautious, but moving forward in a good direction after being stuck in the same pattern for years. And during the stress of that turning point, I had several instances of intense deja vu.
This reminded me of when I switched jobs to my current job (that I have been in for 16 years and still love it) and the intense deja vu I had when I was going through my training at the new job. It was like, "I am supposed to be here, in this moment."
So my question is, have any of you experienced that sort of thing in your own lives? Like if you feel like maybe you were struggling through a part of your life and finally get through it or to a sort of resolution and the deja vu comes? That is is maybe some sort of confirmation that you perhaps wound your way through life back to a path you are supposed to be on?
Curious to hear your thoughts and experiences!
What a great question! I can't say I have had that experience with deja vu but it seems interesting. You made that connection so it certainly could be an important connection.
I also used to have many more instances of deja vu when I was young. Especially as a child.
It's wonderful to hear about your family hitting a positive turn. May you continue to experience that joy.
I also used to have many more instances of deja vu when I was young. Especially as a child.
Same on the Deja Vu when I was a kid but not much since I became an adult.
My old theory on it was it spoke to a memory from the soul and the connections that keep us from visually recognizing our past lives in our current one not being as strong as it becomes as you age. But I’ve also heard perfectly plausible explanations about being in the right place at the right time like CC21 mentioned (also sometimes the wrong place at the wrong time).
My experience with deja vu has been tied to France. There are places in France that immediately feel familiar to me, even though I haven’t been there before. I can’t explain it other than the possibility of a past life or lives there. When I’m there, I feel as though I’ve come home. The architecture, the landscape, the culture-all these are as comfortable to me as a great pair of old shoes. The only mystical experience in France that I can think of is an evening when my husband and I got lost in St. Remy. (That in itself is odd, as I have a good sense of direction, a inner compass. Plus, we had been in this town before and were familiar with it.) However, that night we were walking to dinner but somehow got turned around and wandered side streets and alley ways until we were totally confused. When we finally stopped, I looked up and there was a sign on a house. The sign said Nostradamus had lived there. Now that gave me chills.
@Bluebelle, I loved that you felt you'd lived in France and maybe had a connection to Nostradamus. I remember when you first connected with me, you were so fascinated with predictions. It's as if you'd always been involved in this kind of work.
When I was 25 I spent the summer in London and I felt so happy there, like I'd lived there all my life. I spent hours at antique shops too, loving all the old Victorian stuff. I wasn't so interested in seeing this stuff in museums, but loved the everyday belongings I'd find in antique shops. I was looking for furnishings that felt familiar. I brought a lot of them back with me and still have them. Years later I saw a famous medium in Massachusetts, Ellwood Babbit, who to my surprise, outlined a number of past lives in which I gave readings and taught classes in mysticism. At the time I saw Babbit, I was a journalist and did not give readings. He mentioned a life in London, and even mentioned the name I had then.
@lovendures, like you, I too had many more deja vu experiences as a child. Could it be because we can remember those earlier lives more when we are children?
@bluebelle @dannyboy @jeanne-mayell @lovendures
Fascinating to hear your thoughts and experiences! Bluebelle - that is wild about France. And Nostradamus?! How neat! Isn't it weird when things feel so familiar? I find that my deja vu experiences are often just regular daily scenes, but that they feel much more familiar as if I had been there or done that before. I have read that scientifically-speaking it may just be a memory glitch in the brain, but I can't help but think there is more to it.
Merry Christmas to all who celebrate!
I woke from a dream yesterday morning (Christmas Eve) which was lovely, but I won't detail it here (pending any answers to.my question). A spiritual being in the dream hugged me & announced "she's from the fifth grid."
I have my suspicions of what she meant, but was wondering if anyone else has heard of the "fifth grid" other than thinking of the 5th dimension.
I've only found a few references when researching, lots of mentions of the musical group (who's music I've long enjoyed-hats off to Marylin McCoo), and a stumble upon heartwarming posts from @coyote (discussing the 5th dimension of course) when looking for the appropriate thread to ask.
@cindy Merry Christmas! Your question about the “fifth grid” intrigued me. I have never heard of it, so I did a search on “fifth grid and consciousness” and found this site — which, on first glance, seemed to possibly be a good explanation?
https://transcensiongate.com/library/planetary-grids-of-consciousness/
I am curious to hear what others might know!
@cc21 Thank you so much for that link. I had thought that the "pronouncement" in my dream was related to a vision I had in meditation back in the late 90s. I've been so scattered lately that when I would search, I was using terms as spiritual meaning of the fifth grid, instead of using the term consciousness. Several years ago, I posted using the term (Christ Consciousness Grid) as it was something I had seen in a meditation, and years before, I had even posted a painting I had made back in '98. It is an overly simplistic version, feeling I couldn't capture what I truly saw, the grid was much more geometric (mostly triangular shapes). Using the term fifth grid, google either gave me math answers, or fifth dimension (since their algorithm knows how often I search for something using the term spiritual). Your find, along with what I found, was interesting also from the aspect that this is the first time I've seen that referred to as the crystal/crystalline grid given the details of gems I saw in my vision decades ago. The one major difference being that the golden grid I saw encompassed the entire universe, not just Earth. I can't find the post with the painting so I'll upload it again. You'll see that Earth, Mars (I was clueless that Mars was the 'Red Planet' when I saw it and painted it), and the moon are all enclosed.
Ha, I went to fix a typo, and it deleted my pic and told me time had expired. Par for the course lately.
@cindy Very glad that what I found was helpful! It was a really fascinating read for me as I had not encountered something like that before. I love that it related to your vision and your painting. Thank you for sharing that! Really cool that you didn't realize at the time that Mars was known as the Red Planet. I am curious to know more about the gems/crystals aspect of your dream, if you are able to share that sometime.