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Ethical Issues around predicting someone's demise or death

 mhb
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I actually had a different experience in college where it worked out well that I said something.   I had a predictive dream one night about my grandmother.   In the dream, she said to me, very matter of fact, that she had fallen in her bathroom and died and no one had found her.  She wanted me to make sure someone found her.  It shook me up so badly that I called my grandmother at 2 am and she answered (before caller ID days) and I freaked out and hung up.  

The next morning I called and told her about my dream and that I was sorry to have woken her up.  She hung up with me and called her sister in another state, who could not be reached.  When she couldn't reach her sister, she made someone go check on her.  Her sister was in her bathroom, injured, near death.  She was saved.  She would have died but for my dream and phone call to my grandmother.

My grandmother always had predictive dreams and had one when she was young where she argued with a relative about whether they could take her daughter home.  At the end of that dream, the relative said, okay I'll only take X and not X & Y (her daughter).  X died shortly afterwards, but Y lived after a nearly deadly bout of pneumonia.   So she believed me and acted on it.   

So in some cases it could be a warning if it gets in the right hands.



   
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Powerful. Thank you. 



   
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 Blue
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Jeanne I thought your class story was interesting. It got me thinking about how our minds can receive information but we don't interpret that information totally correctly. So maybe the person who saw the elderly man with a heart condition was actually seeing that he would have a 'broken heart' from his wife dying, but not having that information about his wife the mind intepreted it that he had something physically wrong with this heart.

This topic is very much food for thought. My own point of view is that I can't personally understand why anyone would want to try and predict someone's death, but if someone got a premonition that someone was going to die, well that might be a warning, and it's possible that it could be helpful (as mb shows in their post above).  If it was tied to a particular event, say someone saw a person die in a roller coaster they could caution the person to be careful on such a trip or perhaps put it off or something (not tell them exactly that they are going to die!) . But I do agree, we have to be very careful about what we tell people based on what we see, as we might not have the information quite right and cause anxiety or distress. A tricky subject for sure.

I had a minor predictive experience when I was in my early teens. It wasn't a prediction in that I saw something happening, more of an intuition when a voice inside guides you - I was at home at night watching tv and thinking of going to bed. But something inside me said no, wait, and I decided to stay up a bit more. Some minutes later I heard a noise next door - my mind in a flash put two and two together and I realised from where the sound was that something was wrong: the house next door's stairs were right by the other side of the wall of  the room I was in and the sound was like a rumble, when someone falls down stairs. I immediately got my mum and we checked next door on our elderly neighbour who lived alone - she wasn't answering and we knew something happened. A couple across the road saw us calling through our neighbours letter box and came to help. We called an ambulance and managed to get in the house and our neighbour had suffered a stroke and fallen down the stairs.

If I hadn't listened to my intuition and stayed up a bit longer to watch tv I believe I would not have heard that noise,  and therefore a high probability my neighbour could have died. We would not have know she had fallen and might not have seen her for a few days (that wasn't uncommon).

Unfortunately my neighbour didn't recover well from the stroke and she died some weeks later, which was very sad.  But on reflection I think that time she had left in the hospital gave time for her son who lived some miles away to come and see her. If she had died that night I can only think how much harder it would have been for him.

I always say,  follow your intuition!



   
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Blue, thank you for that story.  It is beautiful to read these magical stories. You softened the blow of your neighbor's illness and fall.   You swooped in like an angel to the rescue.  

She had a terrible fall, all alone, late at night and could have spent endless hours, even days, lying in pain with no help.  

But a caring neighbor sensed what was about to happen to her. Perhaps you sensed her nervous system was failing before it failed.  And you came to help.  Your story -- all of these stories --remind me of how our species is always sensing each other's well being.

We are like one large interconnected organism working together for the greater whole.  Like the grandmother trees who detect and send nutrients and water to the other trees in the forest, and even alert trees to dangers such as a fire, we sense each other's needs and imbalances and distress while we sleep.  

During the hours before I give a private reading, I am sensing the client. I dream about them, feel their issues, and am already sending healing energy to them. I feel my son and daughter's needs too, even when they are a thousand miles away from me.  I believe I'm sending healing where it is needed.  I believe that those of you who come to this site are also performing this healing work unconsciously both for those you love, people in your communities, and for the collective.  

That is one reason we need to take care of ourselves, strengthen ourselves, stay alert but always seeking strength and hope. It's not just for our selves that we do this. It's for all. 



   
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The only death I can predict is my own. It came to me in a dream one morning many years ago and I can still see it as clear as ever. I can even see what I will be wearing. (Aortic aneurysm give out and I'm dead before I hit the ground.) I was recently referred to a cardiologist who told me that I was at risk for developing one later in life. I almost said, "I know" but thought better of it.



   
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