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(@ghandigirl)
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Crazy Trump sends a hate filled letter to Nancy Pelosi....claiming he has less rights than people accused in Salem witch Trials. So offensive, such absolute nonsense and red meat for his equally crazy supporters. I know Nancy Pelosi will continue to act honorably, but I am SOOOOOOO tired of this hack. 

Anyone have a clearer vision of when we can be set free from the craziness?

 



   
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(@hererightnow)
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I am not psychic but I don't see an end to it unless he steps down for health reasons.  



   
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Health reasons?  Or he uses the excuse of health reasons.  "Oh, those Democrats have treated me so badly!  There has never been a President treated worst than me!  But my doctor says I need to quiet for my health!  I don't want to, but they say I have to.  Etc.  Etc.  Etc."

Again, I am not psychic.  Visions don't come when I meditate.  If I do get visions, it is when I sleep, and they tend to deal with personal issues.  But I do get premonitions (or "feelings") quiet often.  I can often tell whether my favorite team is going to win or lose a week before the game, or I can feel whether results of a doctor's tests (such as a cancer screen) are favorable or unfavorable.  They tend to be accurate about 85-90 % of the time.  Again, it is not a psychic gift such as the ones many of you are blessed with.  I guess it is best described as a strong intuition.

My intuition tells me that the ultimate goal of this is not to get rid of Trump per se, but instead to weaken the wall of defenders that support Trump.  I feel that the Democrats are holding some disturbing information about Trump in reserve.  Perhaps it is a witness who has a tape of the phone conversation between Ukraine and Trump.  Perhaps there is proof of more bad acts (I seem to recall that Trump witheld aid to Lebanon recently).  But there is something that will be released soon.  

If this information is very bad (enough to incite Democrats and Independents to go from demanding impeachment to activily protesting in the streets), then the House of Representatives had already voted.  Suddenly, you will have a very unpopular President and many Republicans who are now on record that they supported a corrupt traitor.  Meanwhile, the Senate Republicans will face backlash at home, and many will know that regardless of how they vote, they will likely lose their seats due to the fact they made so many people angry.  Plus, the Senate knows that by saving Trump, they are basically giving full permission for a Democratic president to do the same thing.

Suddenly, many Republicans will feel pressured.  They will beg Trump to resign (due to "health reasons").  Otherwise, the Republicans who voted to save him in the House will know that Democrats will be running campaigns based on their votes to save a "criminal," while the Republicans in the Senate will do whatever it took to keep their votes from being recorded, least it be used against them at their election campaigns.  

Again, this impeachment will never succeed in getting rid of Trump.  The Democrats are instead making it harder for the Republicans to keep their seats come election time.  Remember that the Senate in particular is voted by citizens in their entire state.  It isn't districted via gerrymandering like the House seats.  If you tick off enough Independents (particularly in the purple states), then all the Republican votes in the world will not be enough to save you.

Everything is about timing, now.  Wait until the House votes, then release more damaging information before the Senate votes.  Suddenly, McConnell will want to backtrack from his "swift trial."  Trump will get ticked because he will watch Fox News and see polls of how many think that a swift trial by Republicans is tantamount to covering up for Trump, and not the "acquittal" he was hoping for.  He will get more involved, and will tick off McConnell and the other Republicans.

Until then, I am continuing to watch the Republicans in the House with glee.  If my intuition is correct, the airways will soon show video of their "loud protests" to protect "corrupt Trump" and "destroy America."  They are providing the sound bites and footage.  Democrats just need to sit back and wait for the right moment to play their cards right.  Timing is everything.

Is it just coincidence that Conway's husband and others launched their anti-Trump campaign today, on the eve of the vote?  Or that there are rallies around the country supporting impeachment.  Timing is everything in politics, and I feel deeply that the Democrats are waiting for just the right moment to play their "Comey letter" to further destabilize Republicans and make them more vulnerable come November.



   
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I told someone this evening that he may leave for health reasons and blame the Democrats. It makes sense.



   
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@suspira44

bone-spurs?



   
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Timing is everything, yep. By procedure, once the House votes in favor of impeachment of a president, then they appoint or elect House Managers who then will be responsible for presenting the case to the Senate. Once the managers are chosen, then the House has to pass a resolution to move the impeachment to the Senate. 

Currently,  Gru the Senate Majority Leader and his minions are telling everyone they will coordinate with the White House to stifle any witnesses, and speed up the process to get this over in a flash. Meanwhile the SCOTUS is not going to hear cases about taxes until March. 

As of yesterday the POTUS became unhinged in writing, sending Pelosi his 6 page temper tantrum. 

What if the House today passes the Articles of Impeachment, and drags their feet on the rest? They can pick Managers, but until they vote on a resolution to send this on the house, it will be hanging there over the WH, Senate and Republicans like the Sword of Damocles. Maybe they'll claim it's best to wait until the SCOTUS ruling so that if there is something that comes of the case (or their requests Monday for further Grand Jury info), then they won't hold up Congress longer than necessary. 

We all probably surmise that you know who wouldn't be able to handle the pressure. Meanwhile Rudy Colludey will keep doing what he's doing and dig their hole deeper. I have no doubts that as time goes on, more will come out that will be damaging, and will add nails to the coffin of this presidency. 



   
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@suspira44

bone-spurs?

Unk, can you imagine what the Queen must have been thinking when she met him? She drove and repaired military vehicles in England while they were under attack in WWII. What does one think when meeting Bone Spurs? 



   
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Gabbard is the only one who voted" present".

She is very scary.

“After doing my due diligence in reviewing the 658-page impeachment report, I came to the conclusion that I could not in good conscience vote either yes or no.”She went on to say she believes Trump is “guilty of wrongdoing,” but that she had serious concerns about the process itself, calling it “a partisan process, fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country.”

There comes a time in ones life where a decision must be made for tho good of the country.  There are tribal animosities between N. Korea and the US and  Russia and the US.  A "present" vote will not cut it if we are voting to declare war either.  

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/18/21029243/tulsi-gabbard-house-vote-present-trump-articles-impeachment-hearing



   
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Wow, Nancy Pelosi just stuck the turtle up his own backside. Shes holding sending the articles to the Senate. Shes publically saying that she is looking for a fair trial, however, she has no definite timeline to turn them over. That means she can pull a Merrick Garland move and wait until after the election(and a possible turnover of leadership in the senate) if she wants to



   
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(@lovendures)
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A friend of mind wrote  something today which resonated with me.

He reminded me that the current House are Representatives was voted into office just over a year ago.  The majority of Americans therefore, in 2018, decided that there needed to be a branch that would "check" the office of the President; this President.    Had they not have been elected to their seats, Democrats would not be in the majority, and his behavior would’ve gone unchecked, and sadly, acceptable to the majority of the people. Such is not the case, however, and Democracy, the will of the people has been demonstrated.

 



   
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