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[Closed] The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning - Rebuilding a Progressive America in the Future

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So here's some good news!  Granted, this is a primary and they lost to other Republicans because that's how this works, but 9 Michigan House members up for reelection signed on to the recall Whitmer campaign.  All 9 of them lost their primaries last night.  Women rising!



   
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@allyn

 

Your point is well-taken. If Rump truly DOES have "diminished capacity"  (and this can be proven medically through brain scans, etc.) then yes this should be a factor in how he is ultimately dealt with... but an all out pardon?  OMG, no way.  

What the D's need to do going forward is to focus on creating their own New Deal and WPA/Job Training/Job-Retraining Program.  Much of the fear and anti-immigrant anger is due to "scarcity mentality"...if Trump cultists see the cake as possessing only 8 slices and an influx of immigrants arrive at the party, then they fear they will end up with none.  Especially if they are not college-educated -- far less job options then.  What the D's need to do is to bake a "bigger cake" with far more slices for everyone ... through this Job Training/Re-Training/Infrastructure boom.  In addition, create and offer solid, well thought out Apprenticeships as Germany does -- tied to real companies and their real job needs. Establish a credible job placement record. Were this to happen, I'd wager that you'd find PLENTY of avowed Trumpites who would gladly change their tune...everyone needs opportunity and food on the table after all...



   
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And, as I've mentioned before, Bernie Sanders came up with a simple brilliant idea: take $ 1.00-2.00 out of every brokerage and bond transaction on Wall Street and put that money toward social good like creating these Job Training Programs...considering that millions of transactions are generated each and every day from multiple exchanges, this would create an outpouring of money from "the wealthy class" directed toward the social good.  They would become, in effect, "monetary spigots" which would be unceasing.  The possibilities for this, were it to be implemented as a kind of "brokerage/bond tax to the wealthy" is virtually unlimited. Think about it:   Universal Basic Income.  Shore up Social Security. Increase Medicare and Medicaid. Free or Low Cost University Education.  And the wealthy would be paying for it  -- but barely noticing their contributions because they are so negligible....but made up in volume. This is Enlightened Capitalism... the kind of next steps that we, as a country, need to take.  And the D's must be in the forefront of creating this kind of change...



   
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Posted by: @frank

Hi @jeanne-mayell. Sorry, I don't know who Charles Eisenstein is, but I'd love to learn more ? 

I just watched an interview with him called An Epidemic of Control and I'm definitely a fan now.



   
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The Democrats are threatening to expand the Supreme Court if a seat would become available this year during an election year . Especially if they try to fill the vacancy even if the R loose the Senate. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/03/democrats-are-threatening-expand-supreme-court-good/%3foutputType=amp



   
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@jeanne-mayell

I wasn't stating that Bush and Reagan didn't have huge character flaws. I have personally met both and both gave the strong vibe that they wanted to do what they felt was best for the country. Whether it was or not is a completely different story. I personally believe that mistakes made by both are what helped get us here and am not a fan of either in any way shape or form. I do believe that both thought what they were doing was right though.



   
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maybe what I should have said is their motives were not self and self only. Both Bushs and Reagan were horrible Presidents and did major damage to the country. That said, what I was trying g to say is that they did that damage with the misguided ideas that it was helping the US grow stronger. They were all lacking in empathy at times, and intellect at others, but they truly believed they were helping. I see them more as the kid who destroys the house trying to help mom and dad. Trump, on the other hand is the little arsonist that makes sure he steals Moms purse and Dads wallet so he can buy the video game he wants to play as he sets the place ablaze and laughs at all the screaming from inside. 



   
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@frank Eisenstein wrote a wonderful visionary book, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible. Great read.



   
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@mas1581 I hear you. Your view is kind.  Your heart is good.  And like you said, there is a huge difference between those men and Trump. But hearing anything good about Reagan and GW Bush triggers a lot of pain and outrage for what they did. And while I forgive them, I never want their kind in higher office again.  Of course their mindsets, and worse, are still with us.



   
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Posted by: @jessi1978

The Democrats are threatening to expand the Supreme Court if a seat would become available this year during an election year . Especially if they try to fill the vacancy even if the R loose the Senate. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/03/democrats-are-threatening-expand-supreme-court-good/%3foutputType=amp

The Dems can't expand SCOTUS. It would require a constitutional convention to change the number of justices, and would have to be ratified by 2/3 of the states.

I can't access the article due to paywalls, so if this is just a grabby headline, never mind.

 



   
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