1578 actual attendees. People are over his same old victim act. They are not looking for reruns of the Real Housewives of the WH from 4 years ago.
Since I had my vision of the anvil falling on Ts head right before his debacle at West Point, he has continued to be hammered.
As I said, it will continue downhill for him. He is a broken man. Events will occasionally look like like wins for him. And then it will fall to dodo. He's finished
Only 1578 attendees? I’d heard figures saying the stadium was half to two thirds full, but I didn’t realize the numbers were that sparse.
Under 6200. Read the previously attached. Many were hired actors from Craig's List.
Regardless, 6200 is very embarrassing to him. The venue holds over 19000.
I know actors who were hired here in NYC for his early events. They were never paid.
Is anyone else feeling the passing of an era right now? The Jupiter-Saturn conjunction at 0 degrees Aquarius on December 21 is exactly six months away, but I'm getting these waves now of loss and of sadness that we're not going back to the old comforts of our pre-pandemic lives.
There was so much that was wrong with that way of life, so much. But it's a bit like saying goodbye to childhood, as you step into adulthood. You're excited about what lies ahead, but you haven't lived it, so there's trepidation, you're not sure if you'll be able to handle it. And you miss the days when you weren't required to act, when everything was taken care of for you. Are we at the cusp of a similar transition for humanity?
Yes! I can definitely relate to this. The energy seems so sad right now - exactly like you said. Waves of loss about the fact that we won't be returning to the old way of life. I think my younger daughter is feeling this acutely as well. She has the hardest time sleeping (and has since lockdown) and everything hits her at night. We are working on some practical ways to help her cope, but it is so palpable right now. Also, our current weather (at least here in Michigan) is that hot, humid, stifling air, so that doesn't help the mood any. Feels like we are in the thick of things and awaiting a more positive shift. But loss definitely is the predominant feeling.
I feel so much of what you have both described, to the point where it is affecting me physically. Last night and this morning I felt horrible. I agree that the energy we're feeling is palpable. @cc21, I also agree that the hot, humid, stifling air doesn't help; we're experiencing that in Northern Virginia as well. It's not good for many of my health issues or my mood. I wish I was living in a dry, cold climate, but that's for another thread.
We're all trying to ride this wave the best we can, but it's not easy. I've been saying to myself "just take it a day at a time," but even that doesn't feel right ... maybe a "moment at a time" is more fitting right now. And perhaps we should consider focusing more on the rebuilding and Great Turning, rather than on the Unraveling? What kind of world do we want to live in? What actions can we take now to help make that happen? I do understand that we can't have the Great Turning without the Unraveling, and we are in the thick of things. What's that saying, the only way out is through? I just know that for me, I can get stuck and lose hope if I focus too much on the unraveling piece.
It's times like these, during these periods of upheaval, feelings of loss and isolation, that I am very grateful for this community. We will get through this.
Much love to all of you.
@jeanne-mayell @Lawrence Lying is his way of life. He's made this comment before about testing and he never looked to me like he was joking. Couple that with increased testing for himself and his staff while trying to diminish it for us. The attempt to say it was a joke also got him into more trouble because you don't joke about the pandemic when there are so many deaths. Lawrence's anvil is working hard to right this wrong.
I too feel the oppressiveness of the collective. Like you, I worry about what our lives will be like going forward.
But for some reason I am also feeling optimist. Because I am seeing things that seem to herald the end of Trump and the beginning of the GREAT REBUILDING!
Yes, Trump and the Republicans are still in control. Yes, after the 2016 election, we are rightfully concerned about voter suppression know that they will try to tilt the election in their favor.
Yet already I see events that suggest that they will fail. Badly.
First, consider the current state of the collective right now. So much has changed in such a short few months. Was it just February that the Republicans refused to have a hearing on Trump and gave him a free pass on corruption?
And now the economy has tanked, and many people are staying home due to fears of Covid 19. Those who did not take it seriously and called the virus a hoax are now facing record numbers of outbreaks in predominately red states. And in a few weeks (if the same scenario that occurred in New York occurs everywhere else), we will see many doctors beg for help while their morgues are overfilled with bodies and hospitals are scrambling for ventilators.
But yet I see hope. And it is because of people like us.
For years, we have suffered under Trump's rule. All of us. Consider the following:
1. Black Lives Matter-where is the Trump supporters? Shouldn't they be out protesting against Black Lives Matter? Shouldn't they be marching around with their guns and guarding the Confederate statutes? They certainly didn't mind protesting in Charlottesville a few years ago. But since George Floyd's death, they are AFRAID!!!! They saw the numbers of people who marched for this. They know that the population is angry, and that any violent actions on their part will be answered in kind. Racists are now being sought out and targeted with the same vigor that they themselves had gleefully hunted down their victims).
Notice that the Black Lives Matter has still not faced a pushback from the Republicans. Before, when people said "Blue Lives Matter," it was accepted, because it was meant to mean that you supported law enforcement and acknowledged that their lives were on the line. This movement helped to stifle any progress from the Black Lives Matter protests back in 2014 (Ferguson) because it freed conservatives from responsibility. They could say "Blue Lives Matter" and not be seen as racists.
Fast forward to 2020. Republicans can no longer hide behind "Blue Lives Matter." Now it is being seen as an excuse to carry on racist practices. Further, as Trump has hold-heartedly embraced the "law and order" persona without even attempting to understand the protesters' grievances, he has taken away any sympathetic voice to the police. The police are now being seen as being aligned with Trump, and it is killing their reputations with the public as a whole. The protesters are being smart when they say "All Lives Won't Matter until Black Lives Matter." Republicans now have no response to counter the knowledge that there is systematic racism in the justice system and reform is needed before this country can move forward.
Now, Republicans will ultimately push back. They will point out that Floyd had a criminal record. But while Floyd has become the rallying cry, this movement is not about him only. It is about all the other people who were killed unjustly, many of them who did not have a criminal record. So I expect some victim shaming in the months to come, and am preparing myself mentally to combat it.
2. Covid 19. Ah, the great equalizer! An opponent that Trump can't send his followers after with guns and threats. The red states, after months of mocking New York and others who suffered from the virus, are now finding their populations succumbing to the virus. It is becoming real to them now, and they will suffer greatly for it because they will not take precautions. Because of Trump, wearing a mask has become a political issue, so many will not wear one. Because of Evangelicals, many people will not wear a mask because by wearing one, you are basically saying you don't trust God to protect you, and thus you are not a Christian. So by going out in public without taking precautions, you are saying that your faith will protect you.
Uh...yeah? I am a Christian too, and I believe that while belief in God is paramount, God also cautioned against putting yourself in dangerous circumstances. Would you go into battle without body armor? Further, the sheer hypocrisy that conservatives say that they are protected by God to where they don't need masks yet feel the need to carry automatic rifles around for protection? How exactly is that putting your faith in God?
Needless to say, these two ways of thinking is already contributing to a huge spike in cases and deaths in the red states, and it is only beginning. I suspect that by August, many areas in rural America will feel the effects of the virus first hand and will suffer the aftermath of their negligence, while their Democratic neighbors will continue to take recommendations seriously and limit the affect that the virus will ultimately have on them.
3. Trump. He is his own worse enemy. Even if polls show Trump losing by twenty points, I predict that many anti-Trump voters will vote in November for two reasons. First, they are traumatized by the events of 2016, and they feel that they must vote, as voting Trump out has become literally a matter of life and death. (I doubt we would have had the number of deaths if Hillary were president. Heck, I think even Pence would have a slightly lower death toll, and that is saying a lot given his terrible record.) Remember that Democratic voters are motivated by fear. They are afraid of what will happen if Trump is re-elected.
Republican voters, on the other hand...not so much. How many of you have heard horror stories about what would happen if Biden became President besides the usual talking points from Fox News (becoming a socialist country, all Evangelicals hunted down, liberals ruling the world, etc.) It doesn't seem as real to them as it is to us. We have actual experiences where we can point out how Trump has effected our lives. But Republicans are having a hard time looking at Biden and saying "we suffered greatly when he was in charge!" When Biden was VP, they had a recovered economy and dealt with SARS with a minimum number of deaths. Few if any Republicans can honestly say that their lives were worse off when Biden had power, so they aren't motivated by fear. Also, many of them will buy into the "all the polls are wrong" and be complacent. They will have less motivation and thus will likely not come out to vote like Democrats will.
4. Attempts to limit voting.-Seriously, didn't Republicans learn already that this doesn't work? Didn't they already try this in Wisconsin? And now Kentucky is going to try this out? What do you think is going to happen when you close the voting polls. African American voters are still going to show up! And yet you risk the possibility that your own voters (typically white and elderly) will not show up due to fear of Covid 19. Further, as a good portion of Trump supporters are racist (they are, we know they are), they may be afraid to come to the poll booths if they know that the polling places have long lines of angry African American voters waiting to vote, especially given the mood of the nation right now.
5. Supreme Court. It is still too early for this one, but if the Supreme Court goes against abortion and against Trump on his taxes this week, then it is over for Trump. The Republicans will become demoralized that their plan to take over the Supreme Court didn't work (many will forget that other abortion cases are waiting in the wings, but that is a worry for another day), and Trump will be so upset about his taxes that he will devolve further and won't be able to focus on the election. Heck, he is barely functioning now!
So, while it seems that the country is falling apart, remember that we all seen that the collective would feel at it's lowest this year. Sometimes one needs to hit rock bottom before they can wake up and fix the problem. That "hitting rock bottom" is now, and we will come out of this stronger and wiser than ever. So take this time to reflect and plan. We are at the final corner and are about to find the exit if we can just make it the last few feet. And we will.
Is anyone else feeling the passing of an era right now?
Yes, for years I've felt 2020 would be the point of shift, and then it would take 5-8 years for progressive people to rise to the top of the culture so that we'd feel America had reached a new level of humanitarian leadership.
Is anyone else feeling the passing of an era right now?
Yes, for years I've felt 2020 would be the point of shift, and then it would take 5-8 years for progressive people to rise to the top of the culture so that we'd feel America had reached a new level of humanitarian leadership.
I'm not surprised at the length of time you feel it will take. It will take that long to deal with the legal and criminal fallout from this administration, restore/replace/repair all of the things T has destroyed - including the international reputation of the US - and get our country back on its feet. And given that depressions historically last about that long, it fits with the long economic cycles as well.