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(@dannyboy)
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@allyn I think we're going to be disappointed on the resignation front for some of our elected officials that spearheaded this on, particularly in the senate.  At least in the short term. But Democratic control does come with some ways to punish regardless.  It's not enough, but it's a start.

I'm hopeful those seeking re-election in 2022 and those who may try to hold the mantle of a top contender for Trump 2.0 in 2024 find themselves in a very different state of the world in 2 years and 4 years respectively.  In this, the Dems have a very narrow but doable two years to enact an agenda that shows the country the stories of socialist boogiemen they've been fed are lies.  

I'm not saying they WILL, but they have a chance.  All the light I can muster the next two years to send to them to do it right.



   
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(@dannyboy)
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I'll add - a lot of that agenda has got to be building back from COVID (check, that's Bidens' top priority) and easier social policies (The things we know the majority of the country can get behind) that only became controversial because conservatives made them controversial.  I hope they take a lesson in thinking about 2022 from how badly they got spanked in 2010 and 2012 and don't go all in with Medicare For All right out the gate, even though it's possibly the most desperately needed social reform in our current era.  I have no doubts we'll get there within the next 10 years, especially when looking at the predictions for the later half of this current decade all over this site.



   
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(@unk-p)
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From here on out, in every election, just show the video of the T rioters  on the steps of the Capitol, beating the body of an unconscious cop with an American flag.



   
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(@billy-mike)
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@allyn This suddenly seems somehow related: Months ago, many Iowans, including me, were very puzzled by Gov. Reynolds stridently advocating voting rights for felons, after returning from D.C., where she met with that orange guy.



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Completely agree. Some police standing by and allowing it, Trump's refusal to call National Guard, stealing of laptops, plans to take hostages, rioters knowing workspaces aside from congressiinal.offices, etc was all orchestrated and planned with inside help. Who on the inside helped, I dont know, but there was help.

 

I agree. It's glaring at me and I can't get it out of my head. I don't believe the testimony of the top brass. 

I hope this isn't going to go the way of the Kennedy Assassination investigation or the Mueller Report. We deserve to know everything.



   
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(@mas1581)
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@jeanne-mayell

We will never know everything because their inside help was from either House members(Gaetz, Gohmert, Jordan, Brooks?), Senators(Hawley, Cruz, Graham?), or the White House. There also is a decent chance that Russian operatives were in the group of rioters and stole the laptops for classified info. Im far from a conspiracy theorist but this stinks of a conspiracy just as much as Ruby killing Oswald did back 15 years before my existence. 



   
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(@mas1581)
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One thing today baffles me and I cant get a read on it. Pence and his chief of staff were seen in the West Wing today after the COS was banned from there by Trump. Something is up. Either Pence is trying to help Trump and is more spineless than I thought, or they both went over there to talk Trump into resigning and threatened invoking the 25th in a power play. Those are the only 2 things that make any sense to me. Can someone throw cards on it or get a good read of what the purpose was?



   
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 I was just watching ABC news about t**** being told that he should not pardon himself because if he did it is an admission of guilt and it would leave him open to civil suits by those hurt during the riots.  His response is that if he can’t get a pardon then no one else is going to get one. I hope he doesn’t pardon anyone and they all go to jail..



   
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(@lenor)
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@mas1581

Maybe they are telling him that if he resigns then he can get his pardon and is off the hook.  No impeachment. And even if any investigation by congress finds all kind of crimes he would be off the hook for them too.  

Only problem is accepting a pardon means you are guilty of something and cannot use the fifth in any investigations.



   
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@mas1581 I've got a bag a day habit going (Ruffles Baked), someone throw those cards soon.  



   
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