At least 5 times I keep getting pinged whenever I see or read about Giuliani, Mulvaney, Pompeo, in relation to Trump "they will all go down together" that song by Billy Joel which is actually about something very different. That one line and spirit tells me it is meant in the literal sense... they will all go down together. This fits with the nature of Trump.

Also pinging... watched "The Irishman" on Netflix, a very long mob movie directed by Martin Scorsese. It's about the events leading up to and after the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa; also the politics with the Kennedys'. One thing is interesting, the appointment of Robert Kennedy as his brother's Attorney General, that it was controversial and I can only imagine what we would say if Trump did the same thing. Also, Hoffa continually calling him "Boobie Kennedy" reminded me so much of Trump and even of politics today because many people call him "Drumpf" etc. Although, in my mind, while we are all guilty of name-calling" the behavior of the person in office of the President is truly held to a higher standard.

Now, it is all fiction. This is not a "true story" however, it is a reflection of the corruption of that time which also mirrors the corruption of our time. The indication is that government and big business took over the role of organized crime (they basically jailed/chased out the Mob and demonized and outlawed much of Big Labor... in effect winning the turf war and honestly, if I know one thing, Hoffa would have never allowed the conditions that Bezos runs in his warehouses to exist--not even close). It is really a story of double-crossing, arrogance, greed, ego and ruthlessness. Hoffa "disappeared" after making a lot of accusations and pointing fingers and basically behaving in an unhinged manner. Most everyone involved, even peripherally went to prison--even on diminished charges and/or were killed.

It was kind of a reminder of the real consequences. Then I read this article in Vanity Fair about the Nixon impeachment and aftermath. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11/trumps-toadies-should-take-note-watergate-says-everyone-goes-down

I really feel that all the Democratic candidates need to do is stay out of their own way. Perhaps as the field narrows, the message will be more cogent, focused and clear.

it was controversial that JFK chose his brother, and as a result, the Post Act was passed in 1967 forbidding it. That's why we have no relatives of Trump working in the White House now. HA HA

reminded me so much of Trump and even of politics today because many people call him "Drumpf" etc. 

There are many nicknames given to him. However this one isn't a nickname, it's his original family name until the 30 years war back in the 1600s-according to a biographer who wrote a book about the family back in 2000. They were wine makers in the day from Kallstadt-at the time part of Bavaria (now Germany). There is dispute about whether it is accurate, as records have not been found to substantiate the claim. There are other versions of the name from the past that are also possible as the family name before it was Anglicized. What is not in dispute is that when grandfather Fred came to the US at the age of 16 (signed the registers as Trumpf) in 1885,  he had not served his mandatory Bavarian military service, thus making it an illegal immigration. He worked as a barber in NY for 6 years, then moved to Seattle where he owned and operated a restaurant serving liquor and a convenient brothel upstairs for years. He moved around in the northwest, following the gold rush and miners, so that he had a steady line of customers for his restaurant/boarding houses/brothels. In some cases he got the land thru shady deals. When the law started finally showed signs of cracking down on such illicit trades, Fred sold his shares of the business to his partner, and returned to Germany. He was well to do by then. He married, and he and his wife set off for NY, again opening a boarding house, and starting to dabble in the hotel field. So it is family tradition to disregard the law, or think they're above it. Fred C. (45's father)  was no different, tho most of his illegal dealings were in real estate. Fred C. was arrested in NY during a KKK march, and suffered many investigations for profiteering.  

@deetoo

I stopped trusting polls years ago when I had a couple of statistics classes in college and we learned how they actually work. I don't know who said "Live by the polls, die by the polls" but they were right. 

I just read that the Trump campaign is now denying that the "Rocky" twitter post was doctored( . https://www-newsweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-campaign-disputes-picture-president-rocky-doctored-1474789?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15751341980463&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fdonald-trump-campaign-disputes-picture-president-rocky-doctored-1474789 )

Is this a joke or do they really want us to believe that? If this is what they are trying to convince people of, we are one step from North Korea, where they still insist that Kim Jong Un doesnt defecate because he is greater than normal humans and doesnt need to partake in anything vile like that.

If I'm not mistaken, Jeanne had some predictions a while back that made reference to phony images of Twitler being presented to the American people, propaganda-like, showing him as some infallible strongman, to hide his real-life physical and mental decline.

I remember those predictions as well.  It's not surprising. EVERYTHING that comes out of the WH at this point is a distraction. EVERY. THING.

@mas1581

Sometimes the JPost prints conspiracy theories, and this looks like one of them. The clue is their claim that only Muslim Brotherhood calls Ilhan "Sister Ilhan". Muslims call any member of their faith brother or sister, in the same way that many Christian sects call their members brother or sister. If they didn't know that basic fact, I'm extremely skeptical of the entire article.

@polarberry.  Regarding the visions I had last year of Trump posting doctored youthful images of himself. Here: https://www.jeannemayell.com/18245-2/

"In the visions, I see plastic and fake images of him rather than Trump himself. The images he and his followers show are more youthful versions of him. ... Since writing this post, he appeared at one of his rallies and described himself as having looked when he was younger like Elvis Preseley.  So it’s ironic that I’d seen him during my meditation all sweaty with drool on his mouth, like the debauched Elvis in his last year of life." -- posted 12.29.18

Over the last few weeks, I have been meditating daily to send light to the situation and the people in the US. I visualize all the people holding hands and streaming light to the country and the world and visualizing the scales falling off the eyes of those who don’t see what is currently happening and those people joining in the large light circle as they “wake up”.

While meditating and sending light to the US this morning, I had a vision of something finally coming to a breaking point during a congressional hearing/meeting on the 18th of December. (I have no idea if there is something planned for that day or if they are even in town.) In the vision, I saw several Republican Congressmen holding their faces in their hands and coming to the realization that this situation is untenable and that they have to stop it.

@Baba - Congress is supposed to adjourn for the year on Dec 13, BUT if there's a legislative emergency, adjournment can be delayed up until Christmas Eve. They can also be called back early if needed, by Pelosi or by McConnell.

I hope your vision comes true!!!

I just saw that Kamala Harris is withdrawing from the race: 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sen-kamala-harris-drops-out-2020-presidential-race-n1094996

That is sad. I liked her. She was always one of the few people in hearings to ask good and probing questions instead of grandstanding. I hope her talents will be put to good use in the next administration. 

I just noticed that Kamala Harris is dropping out of the race. The field of Democrats is dwindling, but it all feels fragmented right now without a strong front-runner. I know several folks on here have seen that Trump is gone sometime in early 2020, and will not be the nominee. Along those lines - this has me a bit concerned - I am ready for the dark energy to go away:

https://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-not-mike-pence-would-succeed-trump-says-democrat-1475198

There was another situation where money was just released to Lebanon. It was on hold since September and no one knows why.

The Trump administration has quietly released more than $100 million in military assistance to Lebanon after months of unexplained delay that led some lawmakers to compare it to the aid for Ukraine at the center of the impeachment inquiry.

The $105 million in Foreign Military Financing funds for the Lebanese Armed Forces was released just before the Thanksgiving holiday and lawmakers were notified of the step on Monday, according to two congressional staffers and an administration official.

All three spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly to the matter.

The money had languished in limbo at the Office of Management and Budget since September although it had already won congressional approval and had overwhelming support from the Pentagon, State Department and National Security Council. The White House has yet to offer any explanation for the delay despite repeated queries from Congress.

Lawmakers such as Rep. Eliot Engel, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., had pressed the administration since October to either release the funds or explain why it was being withheld. The State Department had notified Congress on Sept. 5 that the money would be spent.

Earlier this month, the delay came up in impeachment testimony by David Hale, the No. 3 official in the State Department, according to the transcript of the closed-door hearing. Hale described growing consternation among diplomats about the delay.

Murphy described the Trump administration’s withholding of aid as "eerily similar" to the situation in Ukraine.

Is it another Ukraine or just the administration showing that they hold up money for other countries all the time?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1094416

Posted by: @turtle26

I just noticed that Kamala Harris is dropping out of the race. The field of Democrats is dwindling, but it all feels fragmented right now without a strong front-runner. I know several folks on here have seen that Trump is gone sometime in early 2020, and will not be the nominee. Along those lines - this has me a bit concerned - I am ready for the dark energy to go away:

https://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-not-mike-pence-would-succeed-trump-says-democrat-1475198

This is why I worry about Trump being removed from office. Perhaps the best scenario is that he is impeached but not removed from office(?). I had never previously considered Nikki Haley to be a threat, but several of us here have seen her at the 2021 inauguration. The thought of her as President terrifies me. I'm feeling so discouraged by the reactions of Trump supporters; every time I read a piece of news recounting his latest misdeeds, there's a cesspool of comments from MAGAts who accuse "leftists" of the very logical fallacies and blindness to facts that they are guilty of. It's so disheartening and I begin to lose faith (again) that we can come out of this dark, divisive time in 2020. Haven't we suffered enough?! We don't have time to waste- we need to start seriously working on existential problems that loom large in the future of the human race (like climate change). 

Posted by: @baba

I just saw that Kamala Harris is withdrawing from the race: 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sen-kamala-harris-drops-out-2020-presidential-race-n1094996

That is sad. I liked her. She was always one of the few people in hearings to ask good and probing questions instead of grandstanding. I hope her talents will be put to good use in the next administration. 

She is still a Senator, in the US you don't have to resign your previously elected office unless you win a different one (i.e., President). So she can still stay on committees and ask good questions.

Also - just heard that Congress will remain in session until Dec. 20 - so your vision just got that much more probable!

just read that Deutsche Bank must turn over Trump records to congress, lawsuits and appeals having failed. 

Just saw a clip of T at 10 Downing Street with Melania as the Impeachment Report was being released by the House. They both looked totally freaked out. 

It's finally dawning on them.

Last month I saw a hand-drawn remote viewing image made by a remote viewer  that seems to predict a catastrophic future scene about trump.  He sees an emergency meeting that features shock, dismay, disbelief, ruin.  The people in the meeting are asking "how can we face this."  The scene is in a hallway in a big ornate building.  He refers to it as a power place, and it reminds him of the US Congress  He saw men in suits gathering outside a big room.  They have shocking news.  Some are bent over, sobbing in disbelief.  There's a sense of adjourning for the last time and a transfer of power.  

 Something unexpected (and seriously bad) happens or is revealed, and he's done.  He didn't present a time frame.  My best guess is that the event happens relatively soon, like within the  next quarter.