@michele-b-here-in-the-forum
Michele! I wish I could hug you for making me smile so big. ?
I'm going to check out the December thread you linked, but I have to say off the cuff that just what you've shared here is exciting to me. I want to say first that I don't believe in the classical concept of a hierarchy of utterly evil, ancient, and inhuman entities that fell from a previously perfected state, and now wander the earth doing unimaginable evil, but which, according to biblical prophecy, will one day—at the culmination of a great war with God Almighty—will find themselves cast into a lake of fire for all time. Not in a literal sense, anyway. (That said, I'm certain there are more things in "heaven and earth" than are dreamt of in our religious philosophies, and far be it from me to decide what's literal or isn't.)
But I do believe this: As a collective, we cast a mighty mighty shadow, and in that vast unconscious dark, all kinds of strange and autonomous-seeming entities appear to lurk. If allowed, these forms can and do serve up all kinds of terrifying chaos. Though my personal philosophy (such as it is) is that these entities are created from our own dark chi: the denied, disowned, and suppressed parts of very human selves. I'm more optimistic than the bible; I believe that one day we'll get it (us) together.
Anyway, you mentioned that Jeanne heard "Beelzebub," which is fascinating. In the classical hierarchy of demons, Beelzebub is the lord of gluttony. No doubt in my mind that DT is plagued by a hoard expressing some fierce Beelzebub vibes. Mammon is the demon of greed. Satan [such a fascinating history behind this term, btw...] became the lord of wrath. And dark octopus-like tentacles have long been seen in MANY mediums' visions of dark entities. Something like this shape is even seen in various indigenous communities today, and historically in ancient cultures all over the world. (Some describe it as having tree-like roots for arms or snake-like hair, ala Medusa, etc.).
Going to read that thread now, but had to share some of this because I'm am over-excitable nerd, I guess? Ha.
@Yogagirl, I must be plagued by the same spelling goblin. Also, I think a lot of people are seeing the same thing with Barr re: health deterioration. So interesting (not that I wish anyone ill).
And @Jeanne-Mayell, I'm 100% with you on your side-by-side between The Don and Adolf. They aren't even in the same domain. Though, sadly, T plays the fiddle for these types all too well.
I do think it's more than kompromat (which the Russians undoubtedly have on him in spades) that turned him. I believe they were able to make him an asset because they're inordinately skilled at using a critical knowledge of a person's particular psychology, not just to persuade him toward their ends, but to make him obsessed. With that accomplished, they easily altered T's thinking and his behaviors. (They accomplished the very same on our population in the run-up to our elections.) All they had to know to do this were his drives and motivations, and because his are overwhelmingly narcissistic and greed-based, it was cake.
Yes, I have absolutely been flashing back to George Wallace with what's going on now! I wasn't aware of his late-in-life apology tour; I'll have to read up on that. But as a Southerner and the liberal dark sheep of my family, my heart breaks doubly to see this particular bit of history repeat.
The powerful few have always used propaganda to stoke fear and social animus among the poor and middle classes. Better to keep us waging war on ourselves than have us rising up in organized rebellion to demand equitable distribution of resources or any other kind of justice.
In regards to the Hitler vs Twitler comparisons, I see a distinct similarity between the 2 eras, however slightly inverted roles. Hitler ran his own show and was the genius behind the whole mess. In todays mess, Putin plays the role of Hitler(master of manipulation), Trump is Mussolini(the bumbling moron following the mastermind while trying to project his own power) and Stephen Miller is Goebbels(the master wordsmith and Hitlers right hand man in manipulation), and MBS is Hirohito(fierce but non committal and will follow whomever wins the fight to keep power).
Der Trumpenfuror has always come across to me more as Mussolini than Hitler, so it is a small possibility that it's just a different fascist that has come back to take another at bat, so to speak. And it makes some connection by the fact that Mussolini's life did not end well. Hitler killed his kids, Eva and himself. Mussolini tried to get away, but was discovered by some partisans (resistance fighters), was shot and then his body was publicly displayed in Milan. This was 2 days before the Hitlers' deaths. He was trying to flee with his commare (mistress), and she also was killed and displayed. I don't know about his kids, but his granddaughter is a semi-fascist spouting nonsense in Europe. Like Twitler, Mussolini was clever, not intelligent.
Another interesting historical footnote: US doctors did the autopsy on Mussolini. They sent part of his brain back to the US TO LOOK FOR EVIDENCE OF SYPHILIS !!! Apparently there was a theory that Mussolini's behaviors were in part shaped by syphilitic dementia. Who does that sound like??? (No, syphilis was not found post-mortem, but in 1945 analysis was more limited, so who knows.)
And when I look at pics of Cheetolini's eyes, I see an echo of Mussolini, not Hitler. The echo I see gives me an image of a cornered animal, on its hind legs, lashing out at anything and anyone that tries to reign it in. So it's the same for me when I look at images of either. When I look at a pic of Hitler's eyes, all I see is endless black, like a black hole, never ending, always expanding and contracting and destroying everything within its reach.
Hug received and appreciated! So very nice to have you back with us watching our backs and helping so much to make things even more interesting! I almost always agree with you and when I don't it teaches me even more ?
If Miller is Goebbels (for real tho!), does that make Bannon Leni Riefenstahl? Frightening.
I love everything y'all are sharing.
...Even if I don't personally resonate all that much with the one-to-one reincarnation theory in these kinds of cases. Whether its personal or collective history, as long as stuff goes unacknowledged and unhealed, it will be repeated (i.e., karma).
In the case of national histories, I believe we see the same kinds of leaders recur again and again, not because an individual soul keeps showing up again and again, demanding to wear the same suit, so to speak, but because the collective soul must do the very same work the individual soul has to do in order to evolve. We have to "wake up, grow up, clean up, and show up."
Our repetition compulsions, as Freud liked to call them, maybe just point out the work we still gotta do. So, I neither believe nor disbelieve that DT is the reincarnation of Mussolini, but it doesn't really matter to me. I just know that he's repeating a well-worn path—for his own reasons, but also because we needed someone to do it and why not him?
We needed to see very very clearly (if very very painfully) where and to what degree we're still injured and undeveloped as a culture, so that we can do something consciously to heal us.
I have been thinking about how he stands it’s just weird. He looks like he is too heavy and his clothes look to big like they are hiding his fat. The other day I was at PT and there was a women who had a vest on. The women apparently suffered from MS from what I could hear. They put weights on the vest and they make her walk until they get the right weight and she looks balanced. Can it be something like that for Dumbo?
I wonder why trump hasn't had a health report this year? Isn't he suppose to have one every year? Another psychic is predicting a fake heart attack. What does that mean?