Yes! I had an ocular migraine the other day and these past two days have been beyond exhausting to me. I feel physically sick without the typical sick symptoms. My body is just lead.
@lynnventura
Youre completely correct. Trump is going to throw anyone left standing under the bus to save his own ass. Im not even complerely sure if he will spare his own kids. I just couldnt see any logical way that the predictions of Trump out of the WH and Pence not there either could ever come true. Now there is a definite path to that happening.
I hope I posted those predictions or told you to. Were they posted? If not could you post them now? There is a prediction that Barr will be on the rack, as well as Giuliani. And both were clearly implicated in Trump's released transcripts of the Ukraine conversation. All the investigators have to do is find out whether Barr and Guiliani followed up with the Ukraine president after the call and they are both implicated.
@Jeanne,
I sent those predictions to you on May 18th but was feeling uncertain about sharing them, so you probably didn’t post them.
Here they are in any case:
Meditation 15.5.2019
June 2019 Mueller testifies, points fingers showing the way
July 2019
Large protest Washington DC
T. defiant and shouting - face red
Bolton out
R.G. - laughing doesn’t understand his legal peril
I and J confident that they have gotten away with something
T Jr - defiant
End of month - decision to activate impeachment triggered by actions on the 4th of July - straw that broke the camel’s back
August
Hearings all month, drama
September 2019
- Barr leaves, has had enough
When does the tide turn?
October 2019
Leaks, drips that turn into a gush of info.
Sessions indicted
By Nov. T in panic and trying to negotiate a way out. Pence smiling like a crocodile and tapping his foot.
March 2020
Large snowball rolling downhill which breaks and criminals fall out.
Info comes out about GA gov election cheating - Kennesaw is key
Sessions indicted? Thats new. Hes been out of sight for a while now. If he gets indicted, he will spill everything and thats gonna get real good. Its lit for sure if that happens
Whistle blower complaint has been made public ....yikes does not look good for the orange one and Guiliani is a central figure
Washington (CNN) - The whistleblower complaint on President Donald Trump and Ukraine was released Thursday morning accusing the President of using his power "to solicit interference from a foreign country" in the 2020 election. (Same thing he did last election with the help of Russia. No consequences so he tried to do it again)
The declassified complaint says Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, "is a central figure in this effort."
The whistleblower said White House officials were "deeply disturbed" by Trump's July 25 phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky. (Which White House officials he does whatever he wants and they don’t care)
The complaint notes White House lawyers were "already in discussion" about "how to treat the call because of the likelihood, in the officials' retelling, that they had witnessed the president abuse his office for personal gain."
Well this is is what happens when they let him do whatever he wants to do with no consequences. He thinks he is above the law. Moscow Mitch how are you going to spin this? He was already accused of using Russia to help him win and now he wants the Ukraine help. What other countries he has solicited for help?
Just finished reading the whistleblower complaint. This is the "deeply disturbing" "worse than I thought it would be" document that everyone said it was. If you havent yet, read it. The closet door just broke off and skeletons are flying out.
No one is going to remember Nixon after this one and I really think this way too bad for GOP senators to try to cover for him. The whistleblower is a hero(still think its Coates' assistant who resigned at his recommendation) and there are still patriotic staffers in the WH. I cant see Trump surviving this one.
I just read the report, it is disturbing UNTIL you remember who it involves! As an added side there is a tweet from Tom Malinowski, who was an Assistant Secretary of State when the crooked procsecuter was removed in the Ukraine. He states the Europeans and the IMF all wanted the man removed because he was NOT prosecuting corruption. Biden was only the messanger man to deliver the collective message. This is also going to involve Manafort I have a feeling. Trump wants to make it look like it was all Biden in an effort to cover up for his son. According to this man it was all a lie. Big Surprise. I for one will not be upset if Moron takes the whole clown circus with him. Pence, Barr and Rudy are all going to have a hard time climbing out from under that large Bus they were just thrown under and good ridence to them all. The sad thing is if Bidens son hadn't died when he did, Biden would have run against Moron and won. I know that's water under the bridge. As much as I admire Hillary she was not the right candidate at the time. I think this will effect Bidens chances and he will not be the candidate. Our greatest hope is Warren with mayor Pete as VP.. Just my opinion but she is the opposite of the Moron. She is smart and tough but also kind and relatable. I believe she will sway a lot of people on the fence.
As for old MoscowMitch he says the Senate will not vote on impeachment. He is just as evil as they come. I donated to Amy McGraghs campaign this morning.
I am trying to step way from this as much as possible. All the drama and stress is taking their toll onme physically and I'm exausted. I did go to the movies with my bestie Tuesday and spent a delightful two hours escaping to Downton Abbey! I strongly recommend it!
Stay strong and bring the light my friends we are in for a bumpy ride until the end of the year.
Thank you for the info, I think many of us have stated that this whole orange nightmare has taken a toll on all us empathic people, especially those who are dealing with health issues as it is.
I have a non Agent Orange ques: I never saw the Downton Abby show, is the movie good if you've never seen the show? :)
I am wondering something, the fact that Trump was ok releasing the transcript makes me wonder why? Does he believe this will set up the democrats (and Biden) and make THEM look bad by going for impeachment and somehow use this whole thing and he knows that his cronies have a way of spinning this to his favor? I just don't trust why he agreed to release it and I just want to know if anyone has any feeling about the outcome of all this whistleblower stuff.
Regarding the "why" trump released the information, I was wondering the same thing. I read an article in the Washinton Post this morning that suggests Mnuchin and Pompeo did not want trump to provide either the transcript of the phone call or the whistleblower's complaint. Barr, trump's legislator buddies, his Fox buddies, and trump himself thought releasing the info would diffuse the situation and make it go away more quickly. Even more, trump thought he could deflect attention to the "corrupt" Bidens, schmooze the public, and pull it off (like he has so many times before). The author of the article said the American public has absolutely no idea how much bad advice trump gets on a routine basis.
I read that in reference to the complaint letter of the whistleblower. Half a dozen people told him what was said during phone calls Presdent Trump had with the President of Ukraine. So he was not there during the calls. My suspicion is that Trump and the Ratpack GOP will try to use that one fact and say it's all hearsay and political theater. I hope the dems have a lot of other facts to back up more than just what the Orange dictator will try to swing.
I truly believe Moron thinks he can deflect the attention away from himself by trying to accuse Biden of somethng that isn't true. I don't watch the news but it was recorded on twitter that MSNBC interupted his news conference yesterday to report that Moron was lying in his comments! I think Moron gets bad advice from all fronts but doesn't listen to anyone and just does what he wants no matter how stupid. He is a genius afterall. The only peole who will believe what he says are his minions who would believe anything he says (remember pizzagate). Evedently the President of the Ukraine is upset that they released the transcripts too. Now he is caught inthe middle and if he does or doesn't back up Moron he is in hot water. Evedently there were some comments on Merkle and Macron in the transcript which werenot flattering and now he has to explain to them what was said.
TriciaCT as far the Downton movie it mightbe confusing as to who the characters are if you didn't follow the series. It is enjoyable none the less. The senery and the close are spectactular. You can probably find a summary on the internet to explain who is who. If I was anywhere near you I would go with and explain!
As far as why Trump released the "transcript", he felt that it wasnt a smoking gun and if he releases it, he gives the image of transparency to Fox News, who can spin it and keep his support in place. He knew he couldnt release the complaint. It probably was his best option at that point. Manifort is definitely coming back, as is Sessions, because the motivation here was 2 fold. He not only wanted to extort dirt made up on Biden but also weaken the country Putin wants to take over. This is all connected stsrt to finish.
In response to Bidens son passing and that allowing Trump into the WH, Im glad it happened (Trump elected, not Bidens son passing)because now laws will ultimately changed to prevent it from happening again. If a mentally deficient imbecile can get this much accomplished, think about how bad it wouldve gotten if a great intellect decided to pull this.
Interesting he is threatening the whistle blower as a spy...
President Trump on Thursday morning told a crowd of staff from the United States Mission to the United Nations that he wants to know who provided information to a whistle-blower about his phone call with the president of Ukraine, saying that whoever did so was “close to a spy” and that “in the old days,” spies were dealt with differently.
The remark stunned people in the audience, according to a person briefed on what took place, who had notes of what the president said. Mr. Trump made the statement several minutes into his remarks before the group of about 50 people at the event intended to honor the United States Mission. At the outset, he condemned the former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s role in Ukraine at a time when his son Hunter Biden was on the board of a Ukrainian energy company.
Mr. Trump repeatedly referred to the whistle-blower and condemned the news media reporting on the complaint as “crooked.” He then said the whistle-blower never heard the call in question.
“I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy,” Mr. Trump said. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”
The whistle blower is a C.I.A. Officer who was detailed to work at the White House but has since returned to the C.I.A
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.amp.html
The most alarming part of the whistle blower report is what is missing (....) The time stamp showed it to be a 30 minute call. But, if you read the back and forth, there isn't 30 minutes of conversation there. In the whistle blower report, it stated that the WH officials acted to move the transcript out of the electronic storage system where these reports are normally kept and moved to a different system that typically holds national security secrets. The WH officials acknowledged that nothing in this call warranted that treatment.
Thus the "best case" scenario was for the WH to release this "cleaned up" version of the report. Where there are ellipses (....) is where there is data missing. When Trump is talking about the company that did the research, the wealthy Ukrainian, and that Ukraine may have the server, there are all sorts of ellipses. THIS IS WHERE THE ALARMING STUFF IS....and we don't know what it is.
This is the cover-up.
"In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to "lock down" all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced -- as is customary -- by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.
White House officials told me that they were "directed" by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from the computer system in which such transcripts are typically stored for coordination, finalization, and distribution to Cabinet-level officials.
Instead, the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature. One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective."
I heard a suggestion that the discrepancy in time could be attributed to the time involved in translators' back and forth translating, from English to Ukrainian and vice versa. Perhaps that's a legit explanation for some of the unrepresented time, although that doesn't mean I also don't believe that portions were purposefully revised/deleted