I don't want to throw cold water on all of your faces, but if the House doesn't up the ante for people refusing to testify, ignoring subpoenas and refusing to hand over records, this impeachment hearing will go nowhere. You can't act the way you've been acting and expect things to work out differently. Useless exercise and they won't get the votes.
Yeah! Impeachment Inquiry! But is he gone? Not right now. We have to be careful to temper our emotions at this time.
- It is only an enquiry, which is what the committees have done starting January of this year. Yet they were not able to make the witnesses at the hearing testify truthfully and with respect. For this to work, the Dem will need to put their pants on and use all the tools at their disposal to ensure the seriousness and respect is maintained.
- How long does an impeachment inquiry lasts? Doesn't it take a couple of years? If they do the enquiry properly, and efficiently, Trump will not be re-elected. However, if things go as they've been going so far, the outcome may be different than what we would like.
- Con't worry about the impeachment not passing the senate. It won't get there while the GOP is in a majority. The elections are about 1 year away, too close.
- If witnesses do as they are supposed to do from the start, respect the process, the committees, and answer all the questions completely and truthfully, Trump may leave before, but not voluntarily. I don't see Pence lasting long either.
Hopefully the GOP will prioritise country over party. But they will abandon Trump only if things look too bleak for him. They have no courage and are very greedy.
Oh frabjous day! CALLOU, CALLAY!!
Formal impeachment is underway ?
I told myself to hold out for October which is when I saw Mueller testifying before Congress.
The overall impression I got from that reading was that we would finally know who the bad guys are.
No, we are not done...
But CELEBRATE!!!!
We have learned that there are many people who still believe in Truth and in the rule of law. They are willing to fight for it. We are absolutely moving in the right direction. And we will continue to do so.
Much Love to all!
PS
It is no coincidence that this happened so close to the Autumn Solstice (equal time between light and darkness on Earth) and in September - Libra - the scales of Justice.
So glad to hear your voice again as we rejoice over this milestone day! It’s not done yet and it will take time. As Bright Opal said, October and November are gonna be lit! The tide has been turning and today we can see the proof of the shift. What a day!
I've got some big personal lessons on hope, faith and love learned in the time I've been gone. I'll share them in the next few days. For now, CELEBRATE, DANCE, SING, GIVE THANKS!!!! Today is a huge win, not only for us, but the UK as well. Whether we have hope in this world is largely irrelevant - God, Spirit, One has FAITH in us.
I don't want to throw cold water on all of your faces, but if the House doesn't up the ante for people refusing to testify, ignoring subpoenas and refusing to hand over records, this impeachment hearing will go nowhere. You can't act the way you've been acting and expect things to work out differently. Useless exercise and they won't get the votes.
We know Twitler's not going anywhere voluntarily. We know the Senate will not vote to impeach. That's not the point. The point is to record and codify that we tried. It needs to go in the historical record. Plus the added pressure may make Cheetolini have a massive stroke or heart attack, or it may in fact prompt him to flee (both office and country).
If impeachment succeeds, it's actually dangerous because it might provoke civil war. That's why Pelosi and others were hesitant (that and the old trope that Dems will lose congressional elections in 2020 if they impeach).
It's not useless. It's necessary.
I do agree that anyone not cooperating with their subpoenas ought to be jailed for contempt post-haste.
"gonna be lit"
(laughs each time I see it referenced by someone)
My mom was on a plane from Iceland to the U.S. today. When she landed she received a text from a friend about how upset he was over over The One Who Occupies The Oval Office's speech to the UN today. She asked me to update her on what the occupier had said. I had to stop and think for a moment. I told her: " Honestly mom, as bad as his speech was (and it was pretty bad) it has all gotten lost in what happened afterward when Pelosi had her news conference." My mom then asked: " What the heck did Pelosi say?"
My takeaway from this little chat? If I truly want to get away from the craziness of the world right now, an airplane flying high in the sky for many hours might be a good place to park myself. Today, major news became a footnote in about 2 hours. If October/November is" gonna be lit", I will need to get prepared.
Now, trying to decide if I should buy movie snacks, up grade to Super Bowl Snacks, or buy fireworks, hors d' overs and champagne to be ready for all the excitement?
I will be on a long flight over the ocean 2 times in October. Wonder if ! will be texting her "what the heck just happened?" when I land.
@loveendures
I think spirit was having some fun with me when the “October and November gonna be lit” message came through. It isn’t something I would normally say and it surprised me when I got that. It makes me laugh when I hear it too.
I live in Europe and am coming over to visit family in October and also wonder what state I will find things in at the other end each time I take a long plane ride. As much as I don’t enjoy flying, it does give me a chance to stop and consolidate my thoughts and gives a brief respite from what is going on in the world. On the down side, being stuck in a metal tube with a bunch of people in close quarters is trying as an empath. On top of that, I am definitely concerned about navigating a peaceful visit with some family that has diametrically opposed political views. I think I will advocate for keeping the tv off!
Has anyone else had the experience going through this current presidency that when something big has happened that you are exhausted and can’t even enjoy it when something goes our way? During some of the biggest positive developments, I have just suddenly either developed a migraine or extreme tiredness. I don’t know if it means that my body is telling me that all is well and I can finally rest or something else completely. I’d be interested to know if anyone else has had a similar experience during this time period or if anyone has any ideas about it.
Good morning all. I thought I would come on and add my 2 pennies to the discussion. @Baba you are not alone. I have felt exausted for the last month. I'm not an astrologer but I figure there is a good reason for this tiredness in the stars. I love your "spirit" and yeah for it's sense of humor. Allyn posted on the prediction page that we were in theDark times, Iagree but I feel that we are entering the upside and moving toward the light again. Slowly but surely. Light those candles! As for the "occupier" (I like that term!) althought the news of the investigation is encouraging we can all bet it will be slow going. The great orange one and all his minions will do everything they can to obstruct but we all know this and are not taken in by it. I believe the House committees are also. After Corey whatshisname and his snarly replys I believe the committees are fed up, at least i hope they are. These charges are too important not to act on. Schiff and Nadler are both furious and hopefully ready to act. I would love to see moron and billybarr answer to Maxine. As for the Reps just rememeber MoscowMItchs philosophy is wait and see which way the wind is blowing than stand where you will be hit with the least amount of poop! MM is polling very low in his old Ky home right now. I truly believe all this drama by the orange one has worn everyone out. If the Rep can't see the writing on the wall then they are blind. I expect this investigation to drag on at least until the end of the year. After that-who knows?
Baba: YES to your question about the feeling of exhaustion. Not only that, but ever since this Orange nightmare has been POTUS my back and neck pain and tiredness has increased. Now it could be (and probably is medical too) but stress causes medical issues in us and I have truly never felt this stressed in my life and nor did I take any real political interest on a daily basis. Before Agent Orange, the stress in life was around job, finances, health, family etc. Now my husband comes home and asks me: "so what did the a&&h0$$ do today?"....I believe I used to go for days or a week without checking the news at times. Those days are gone...for now.
The victories lately are usually coupled with something else that makes you sad about another (and another) thing but I hold on to the hope of these victories and that there is "light at the end of the tunnel".
ps: Thank you for your predictions!
Thanks for the feedback and support! Good to know that I’m not the only one affected physically by all of the goings on during this trying time.
I cleared my head and pulled one card each for T., his minion Rudy G., and Pelosi with the Democrats and asked where they will be at the end of the inquiry. They are from the Rider Waite deck.
For T., I drew the Hanged Man reversed. I understood this to mean that no matter what happens, he is unable to change. His egotism and impulsivity will continue (and cost him dearly).
For his minion, I drew the Ace of Wands reversed. I understand this to mean that things will not go the way he expects and he will be disappointed. He will probably be having some problems due to his role in what has been going on.
For Pelosi and the D’s, I drew the Page of Cups. I understand this to mean that there will be positive news and things will go in their direction. As it is a card dealing with youth, maybe it indicates that the young members will be key to getting this done.
@baba, sometimes the exhaustion I feel from the past 3 years is overwhelming. The way I can measure it is by the state of my physical being before T. got into office. I had been on disability since 2012 and was recovering not only from my illness, but from the fact that I was running on pure adrenaline before my body finally crapped out. I was able to take care of myself and slowly recover to a point where, although I'm always fatigued, I had some recovery and was managing my life well, eventually leading me into retirement. Then T. ran for office and to the nation's horror, won. Now, in some ways, my body is back to where it was in 2012.
Like you, these physical responses can even happen for me when something positive occurs. For example, after I felt the relief and joy from Pelosi's announcement yesterday, by bedtime I was feeling really sick, lightheaded, and exhausted. It came, seemingly out of the blue. Since I am already quite depleted, I believe any strong emotional response, whether positive or negative, can affect me physically. I'm sure being an empath has contributed to how I'm reacting to everything now (and why I became ill to begin with).
The only thing that helps me is to take it a day at a time and do a LOT more self-care: adequate sleep, exercise when I am able, fresh air, walks in nature, meditation, reading or listening to inspirational messages, turning off the news, writing, music, spending time with people who don't drain me (and creating coping mechanisms for myself with people who do drain me) and ... laughter. Laughter is a big thing for me. It got me through some tough times in my earlier years, and can still help. There are some people in this community who can really make me laugh with their irreverence, which often uplifts me. Sometimes I've spent weekends watching funny movies. We also have lots of dogs in my neighborhood, and it tickles me to watch them play.
What's important for me is to get out of my head. That is what often leads me down the crazytown path. As if my "what if's" or any worrying can change the course of things! Let's face it -- things are speeding up and changing every day. All I can change is how I respond to things. If I'm too much in my head, I do one of the above things to pull myself out, and just BE. I'm not always successful, but I do what I can. It's a day at a time process. And as an empath, the only way I can help others is to first help myself.
The NYT article about Nancy Pelosi finally going for Impeachment Inquiry had many good comments. I especially liked this one by one reader:
"Because McConnell and company violate normal procedures all the time, the Democrats in the House should refuse to send the impeachment to the Senate. They should announce that the Senate is entirely biased and cannot render a decent judgement unless they get assurances (which won't be coming) that a fair hearing would be held. Thus, Trump would go into the election having been impeached without a final verdict being made.
It is past time for the Democrats to grab themselves by the seats of their pants and use some of the same tactics back at the Republicans. Impeach but do not allow a trail.
If Trump were to be re-elected, the new Congress, if the Democrats hold the House, should impeach him again waiting for the time when a trial could be conducted in the Senate.
This is not an empty exercise. It would allow the nation to fully see and understand the evidence against Trump and to decide, with their votes, if he belongs in the White House."
I agree with the above sentiment and I also think I was stunned that Corey Lewandowski didn't get sent to jail for contempt the other day. Time for the dems to play hardball. Agent Orange and McTurtle/GOPs have been playing their own version of the rules for a long time. AND there is NO mention in the Constitution or law saying a sitting POTUS can't be indicted. That was just a memo from some lawyer during Cheney's time in Washington. I hope someone can tell me why this supposed law is being followed?
That quote was someone who read the article's opinion (comment section ) of today's NYT article about Nancy and the impeachment. I agreed with their sentiment and "liked" it. :)
Regarding the exhaustion people can feel at times like this, I don't know if it is relevant to everyone who feels this way, but I find this Tara Brach talk helpful on not feeding the hungry ghost within that wants to focus on the painful negative stuff of our lives that we may unconsciously do. . https://insighttimer.com/tarabrach/guided-meditations/healing-addiction-de-conditioning-the-hungry-ghosts
Exhaustion may also be simply from the empathic connection most of us have to the whole collective going through this drama. But again, I find Brach's talk helpful here.
Right now in present day, the idea of a President not being to be indicted while in office seems like a horrible idea, however, I actually agree with the rule. Yes, it allows for someone to wreak more havoc like Trump has, but its much worse if you flip the script. Say Warren gets elected and the GOP keeps the senate. Now she will only get an AG confirmed if Turtle signs off on it. Turtle ultimately gets someone he approves of in the JD and false i dictments start coming for Warren. That leaves her crippled and unable to do her job because she has to fight false criminal charges. The GOP doesnt play fair and anything used to protect the country from them will be weaponized in the future.
Here is the transcript of the call with highlighted areas showing the treason. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/25/rough-transcript-trumps-call-with-ukraines-president-annotated/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Clear and simple. And interestingly it implicates Guiliani and Barr. We have predictions about those two unraveling from this same incident. I am going to post them as possible hits however it remains to be seen how Moscow Mitch and his friends will spin it.