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@suspira44

I can relate to your experience.  When Bush attacked Saddam in 2003, I was immediately against it.  (I felt that Osama Bin Laden should be captured first.  As there was no sign in was in Iraq, why open a war on two fronts?)  Of course, people questioned my sanity and asked why I was so unpatriotic.  I told them I was very patriotic, but I was also strategic and logical as well.  You can't win a war if you are fighting multiple enemies on many sides. 

To demonstrate my point, I refered to a similar situation from World War II, when Hitler attacked Russia even though he had not yet conquered all of Europe.  He threw his best army forces in the battle of Stalingrad, and they were very close to winning.  But a combination of Russian stubbornness to refuse defeat, the arrival of winter and subzero temperatures, and the fact that the German troops were so far from their established supply lines ultimately spelled their doom as millions dies and at least 110,000 German soldiers were captured and rounded up into prison camps (Note: less than 5,000 survived to the end of the war.)

Some saw my point once they realized that I was protesting the timing of the attack, but others still refused to go off their attacks of me being unpatriotic.

What we need to remember is that Trump and his supporters will continue to attack us and others as ferociously as possible by lies and slander.  They believe that if they condition us by repeatedly attacking us over and over, we will one day believe them (very similar to a way an abuser will condition his victim.  Tell them that it is all the victim's fault, that the victim is worthless, etc., and eventually the victim will believe them).

Well, Trump and Trumpers, you are going to have to do better than that!  Because we will not back down.  We will continue to seek the truth and reject the darkness, and no amount of bullying, gaslighting, etc. will ever make us back down and accept your darkness.  Yes, you will discourage us.  Yes, you will yell and scream lies and slander until you are blue in the face.  But just as we have no hope of making you realize the truth, so to as there is no hope for you to succeed in making us give us.  Our light will continue, and nothing you do will ever extinguish it.  Light will always win.  End of story.  



   
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That is only why I have my family and close friends on FB. I do have the news sites and some pages that are against T. I like going on CNN and seeing how dumb T supporters are they never have factually things to back up their statements. I don’t engage with anyone I just let everyone else do it and it’s hilarious how dumb they are. I don’t even post anything about T to my page. I don’t want to give my self a headache and if a friend or family supports him I just mute the persons page so I don’t have to see any of their postings. 



   
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I like this sweet and to the point

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If there was ever any more evidence needed that Donald Trump's mental state is unraveling by the day it is this latest move. The assassination of Iranian General Soleimani in downtown Baghdad by a US drone strike is going to come back to bite us with a vengeance. I can't think of a more short sighted, counter productive, and poorly conceived idea. The Secretary of State's claim that it "disrupted" an imminent attack is transparently ludicrous. In one stroke we have turned the populations of two countries against us, driven Iraq into the welcoming arms of Iran, and given Iran every reason to go full speed ahead in developing an atomic weapon.  Not to mention a lot of Americans will probably die as a result of this.

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/who-was-qassem-soleimani_n_5e0eebc3c5b6b5a713b85a33



   
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I've been seeing a lot of social media posts about "they attacked our diplomats" justifying this assassination.  Convenient they "forgot" about the missile strikes earlier in the week that precipitated the protest/attack on the US embassy in Iraq.

Now, for those folks (who NEVER play the tape forward), what do they think will happen?  Ho Hum, they killed our general and an Iranian general on our soil.....we better just do nothing....

Yeah. 

How did that work out in Pearl Harbor?  How did that work out on 9/11?

If  General Richard Clarke (the current head of US Special forces) flew to Syria and Iran blew him up in his car, how do you think Americans would react?  We'd want swift retaliation.

Iran may not be able to hit us with missiles, but they know that they can hit Americans throughout the world with terror attacks.  Trump just unleashed this.



   
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@codyroo

You hit the nail on the head. School yard bullies always assume that human nature doesn't apply to other people. 

The Pentagon "gamed out" a hot war with Iran - they can do some real damage to us. The war game estimate tens of thousands of American casualties. Let's hope cooler heads prevail.

My take is that Trump has some major insecurity in the manhood department.



   
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BREAKING: A Whistleblower told the FBI that Trump’s Deutsche Bank loans were backed by Russian state-owned bank, VTB Bank. VTB was proposed lender for Trump Tower Moscow and allegedly funded the Rosneft Deal. New docs show deep ties between Deutsche + VTB.

I remember someone predicted that the Deutche Bank would give up Trump info. I tried to access the news website but apparently it crashed from so much traffic.

 

AND Judge rules Giuliani associate Lev Parnas can provide documents in impeachment proceedings | TheHill



   
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@rosieheart

I'm afraid no one cares. I don't know what will make people turn against him, I really don't. And I feel sorry for these women who come forward, they're called liars and it isn't right.

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[Moderator note: This provocative  post and subsequent responses to it were moved from the HITS Thread, following a post that we had a hit in a prediction that another woman would come forth about Trump. I moved it to this thread so people could weigh in here.].  Here's that post: 

From Roseheart: From the October 9, 2019 predictions for January 2020:

  • Another sex scandal affecting Trump. (Jeanne Mayell)

This is a hit.  An Ex-Fox reporter has just (Jan. 3, 2019) come forward with a story about Trump hitting on her before he was elected.   See the link below:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/courtney-friel-says-trump-asked-her-to-visit-his-office-for-a-kiss



   
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@lenor

This fits a few predictions and lends more credence to the optimism of some of the predictions for Trump's unraveling. It also lends credence to the March and April shake up I felt, along with a few others, would happen this year.  



   
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@suspira44

I totally understand your disappointment at how successful the GOP has been at shielding Donald Trump from his crimes, including his crimes against women. It is so disappointing.  But people do care about his abuse of women. Women on both sides of the aisle care.  And women's opinions matter. When one woman comes out, it emboldens more, especially someone from FOX. This man has abused hundreds of women and at some point, the Epstein leaks will happen and we will learn about his encounters with fifteen year olds.



   
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@suspira44

I totally agree, especially today with everything else happening.  However, I wanted to make sure that the hit on Jeanne's October prediction was properly recorded.

It seems to me that over the last three or four months, the hits on predictions made here have been coming faster and more clearly than in the past.   I'm not sure what that means, but I  sense that it means something important.  

Jeanne, thank you for creating this space.  It grows more powerful every day.



   
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@rosieheart

yes, absolutely it's important to note the predictions. I'm waiting for the ones that predict him going down to come into effect!

The thing that upsets me is that as much as this is an indication of what a disgusting person he is, his base isn't going to care. When I say no one will care, I mean the Republicans and his base. Maybe the fact that it's a Fox News reporter will make a difference. One can only hope.



   
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There are some predictions about Middle East heating up this month as well as one in the forum by an intuitive named @Perriwinkle10 that hints of a military event in the U.S. It's in the Climate/Earth section in I Keep Feeling the Earth Shaking.

All of this news pales compared to the climate situation we are now facing. It amazes me how unaware people are to how close we are to a tipping point. Does the public think that the situation in eastern Australia is just a situation confined to eastern Australia?  

 



   
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@lenor

Here is the story that was originally posted in forensicnews.net.  

https://www.scribd.com/document/441601742/Forensic-News-Article-12-3#

It's crazy that the entire news website crashed as soon as the story was posted and has not come back up. 

So a writer from forensic news uploaded to scribe.com which you see above.  Why isn't there more about this in the mainstream news?  It's huge.     



   
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@jeanne-mayell

So far, no one has been able to collaborate this.  Crazy, crazy news day.



   
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There is also this breaking news story regarding Trump's sexual escapades: "Trump says alleged rape victim can't sue him in New York."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-04/trump-says-alleged-rape-victim-can-t-sue-him-in-new-york

 

(I apologize for posting this in two different places, but I want to make sure that it is "on record" in the predictions that come true thread too).

As noted above, Trump's sexual misconduct seems rather...quaint...in light of everything else that has happened.  It is unlikely that this story will get much attention.  It is simply too hard to keep up with and take in everything that is happening related to Trump.



   
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@jeanne-mayell

I would imagine that the MSM is waiting for more confirmation - which I believe is coming. I can't see any of them, with the exception of FOX, running with one thinly sourced story. Like I said, confirmation is coming. Bank records are going to be turned over, Witnesses are going to testify. Tax returns are going to be released. The picture they will all paint is a president totally in the pocket of a hostile foreign power.



   
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@jeanne-mayell

The story about these documents was in the Netflix movie “Hacked” . The documents were taken out of the bank by the bank VP because he knew how corrupt some people using it were. The VP then committed suicide.  His son found the documents and turned them over to the FBI.  All this was in the movie and I there was a news article about this guy and the bank. Maybe the FBI isn’t doing anything yet because t**** has a lawsuit in the supreme court blocking the documents. 

Son of ex-Deutsche Bank executive handed secret documents to the FBI - Business Insider

www.businessinsider.com/son-ex-deutsche-bank-executive-handed-secret-documents-to-fbi-2019-10

My guess that the info is resurfacing so to remind people about the corruption since the killing of the Iranian commander is now a distraction. 



   
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I'd say you nailed it, @lenor. Thanks for sharing this. Also, anyone who still hasn't watched The Great Hack really should. Especially in light of November's elections. (Can't say it enough.)

 

I'm popping in because I wanted to share a couple of quotes. I'm reading David Korten's The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community (also highly recommend), and he starts chapter four with these words:

“The light-skinned race will be given a choice between two roads. If they choose the right road, the seventh fire will light the eighth and final (eternal) fire of peace, love, and brotherhood. If they make the wrong choice, the destruction they brought with them will come back to them, causing much suffering, death and destruction.”

– Seven Fires Prophecy of the Ojibwe people

“We are now experiencing a moment of significance far beyond what any of us can imagine.… The distorted dream of an industrial technological paradise is being replaced by the more viable dream of a mutually enhancing human presence within an ever-renewing organic-based Earth community.”

– Thomas Berry

 

It's true that we're living at a critical turning point in our evolution, in which we've brought ourselves to the brink of existential annihilation. We all know this. Timelines are speeding up, and the planet itself is in crisis.

But, personally? I'm not afraid. 

I take the shamanic perspective that, individually and collectively, we are dreaming our world into being. And I keep seeing that those of us who long for that "more viable dream" Berry wrote about aren't alone—and we aren't few. There are leagues of ancestors and others standing with us in spirit, dreaming and weaving for the sake of our world (and even for our extended solar/planetary system, it seems).

So, no matter what happens in the days and months ahead—and 2020 won't be easy—I hope we can take comfort in that. I'm certain that we're called to use our capacities, not just to search out what might happen next, but to actively envision and declare what we hope to see next. To dream it into being. When we practice that, we pierce a very different veil: one that opens into a wholly new and utterly emergent future. And all I know is that what little I've seen or sensed of that realm feels far more real than anything we're experiencing now, or have experienced in the past. It is more colorful, more ...musical, and more vividly alive than I know how to convey. 

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So, no matter what happens in the days and months ahead—and 2020 won't be easy—I hope we can take comfort in that. I'm certain that we're called to use our capacities, not just to search out what might happen next, but to actively envision and declare what we hope to see next. To dream it into being. When we practice that, we pierce a very different veil: one that opens into a wholly new and utterly emergent future. And all I know is that what little I've seen or sensed of that realm feels far more real than anything we're experiencing now, or have experienced in the past. It is more colorful, more ...musical, and more vividly alive than I know how to convey. 

Your words ring like music to my ears, thank you, dear dear Vestralux, a hundred fold, thank you for posting this. All of this rings so true to me. All of this fills my soul. I am going to read that book as soon as I finish Bill McKibben's latest book Falter. 

The Great Turning is a term my teacher Joanna Macy used, a term that rang true to me the first time I heard it.  First comes the Great Unraveling, followed by the Great Turning. I wrote about on this website five years ago. Then chaos comes in the form of the U.S. president and it is so easy to get distracted.

Civilization is in the Great Unraveling, but for many of us we are already venturing into the Great Turning.  It's a future of love and, caring and a profound respect for our Mother Earth, and yes an earth community!

As I read your vision, I see in my mind's eye, a vision I've had every single day for thirty-five years: Distant in the sky is a goddess. She appears when I'm giving someone a reading, and when I need soothing and guidance. She is compassionate and kind and reminds me that we are held in her arms and always will be safe. We only have to reach out to her. She is there for anyone who seeks to sit in her light.  

I also see my Native American guide, Singing Eagle, who lives in the earth community of which you speak, except he has always lived that way. I have a sacred place on my property where he resides close by, whispering, drumming, commanding, protecting, guiding.

I know the story of the Seven fires of the Ojibwe people.  Their journey goes through the land where I live and also right up to where I am so drawn and go every summer, over the St Lawrence River by Montreal and then westward to Ottawa, across the Ottawa River and then northward from there. I know their prophecy tells of their journey through these lands and onward around the Great Lakes.  The Great Lakes are truly sacred gifts to our earth.

But you don't have to live in this area to be on this sacred path. One of our community, Rob, who lives in New Zealand, follows the indigenous people of his land. I feel his spirit too. He comes to Read the Future nights, most recently as Broadbean, formerly as Rob. His predictions are special. Paula is another who lives in the Netherlands and also in the Pyrenees. Her predictions also are sacred.  I invite you to find them.  There are many more of you, @Bright Opal in Quebec, @Coyote, Andrew in L.A., @Baba, @Bluebelle, @Vagabeau, and many others of you I've come to know - too many to list. And you, @Vestralux

Singing Eagle has shown me that no matter what happens with climate change, even under the worst case scenarios, there will be an earth community of people living the new paradigm that I feel is coming. Under the worst case scenarios, the earth community will be small, but it will live through the conditions and multiply over time. 

I'm not sure this vision has anything to do with the Seven Fires prophecy,  but I see it nonetheless and have been seeing it for three and half decades.  

In my vision I see people living sustainably and in harmony with the earth.  However many people will migrate to the other hemisphere each year and then back again to chase the cooler weather.  They will also build their homes underground to protect from the harsh conditions. Humanity will learn a great lesson that Mother Earth and Father Sun will teach us and once the earth becomes hospitable again, the lessons we learned will live on in myths and a new spirituality.  The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning will be part of the myths, although they may have different names. 

We are getting very close to the shift. I welcome it. And yes, 2020 will not be easy. But spirit keeps sending me the most beautiful visions.  And one of them just came tonight from you, @vestralux, in your post!



   
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