Elaine, I appreciate that you and everyone are trying to figure it out. :-)
Thanks everyone, for sharing all this information.
As you can see, there are no connections to the Vegas shooter. The man killed his disabled daughter then himself, and reporters find no links whatsoever to the Vegas shooting. Cindy - thank you for being the reason I cared enough to pay attention to the dregs and debunk it for myself. I will not forget this lesson because of you and your daughter.
Thank you for sharing this. Conspiracy theories do a lot of damage.
Las Vegas investigations.
I am very sorry to have to say this. When I see that Newspaper reporters have investigated the death of the man interviewed by the police sand FBI due to his links to the Killer, (Those links are not in dispute, they knew each other, well enough for the FBI to call) then say that is absolutely no hard evidence that it is connected, I am concerned. The mainstream media in the USA is not exactly a bastion of truth and light at the moment. I would want to see substantial, independent proof, of what they are claiming. This is the second person linked to the investigation to die, since the massacre. if there are more deaths, will mainstream media continue to say that there is "No connection"? Of course they will. Enough. I am not posting again on Las Vegas. The whole experience of scanning was literally depressing. My last words on this are that eventually, some things are going to emerge, and they are not nice. America is descending into darkness. Zoron.
I'm not acussing anybody, but this shooting reminds me of the Mark Whalberg movie "The Shooter."
Zoron I want to understand what you mean by darkness? I think you may be right with your theories regarding this shooting, however I am suspending judgement for the moment until more information comes to light. If you read Noam Chomsky, Chris Hedges or other similar writers, then you will have known that America has fallen into darkness some time ago. I think for me as an outsider living in the United States it's easy to see that things will get worse before they get better. I don't need psychic ability to see that, just enough sense to critically examine the culture and it's history. I'm scared, that's an understatement, but I am. I feel like the hanged man in the tarot, unable to change events, being forced to go with the flow. I suspect millions of people in this country and around the world are feeling this right now. I have long believed that the American deep state exists, however the extent of it's size, power and activities are still a mystery to me, I am reluctant to believe in conspiracy theories without evidence. When you say darkness I want to understand the karmic implications of this. I can theorize for why what's happening right now is, historical precedent gives us many clues, but in the end each moment is unique and I want to understand better than I do.
The way I'm reading Zoron's comments (however accurately or not) is that this is not something to poke at with a sharp stick, and is better to walk away from. It's doubtful any of us can sway the situation towards the light. Larger forces of time and justice will eventually catch up to it, in the meantime, tread carefully around it.
This has GOT to stop! Let’s all take a breath and regroup. There is absolutely no documented evidence that the Vegas shooter had any accomplices, let alone was part of any kind of conspiracy. Whatever info Zoron- Graham has - well - can we just wait?!??
I’m sorry. I see nothing beyond a guy with money who wanted to kill - yet was ethical. This doesn’t blow my mind- it’s not mutually exclusive. In fact, it defines many of us.
Runestone one,
I agree re your comments. This is not something to poke with a sharp stick. However, plenty of other people are going to be poking it with sharp sticks, as time goes by, and digging deeply into it. The survivors, the relatives, etc, and various writers, who will write books on the subject. Given the acess and information capacity of the Web, just about everything that is known, or can be known, will eventually emerge. Hence my rather cryptic remarks. But that, I think, is for others. This is now the "Digging phase", as the shock wears off. We can wait, and then some of my posts on the subject, will have some backup and investigation, and will be comprehensible. In the meantime, peace for the Dead.
I know we are trying to stay level headed about what possibly could of happened in Vegas but I just want to share this CNN piece:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/26/us/las-vegas-shooting-survivor-killed/index.html
Very odd that another survivor of this mass shooting unexpectedly died in a car accident. This is a third survivor who has died...
On the subject of Zoron's belief in a massive cover-up, see this news of a new documentary that reveals cover-up and corruption in the Las Vegas Police Department around the shooting: https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/documentary-reveals-coverup-and-corruption-las-vegas-police-department-stephen
Hi everyone, and new years greetings. I am not going to say happy new year, because it will not be a time of happiness, for many. But I will thank all on here, and those supporting us, for the way they have done so, over the last year.
I now want to respond to Jeanne's post re the vegas shooting. I hate to say this, but it is now emtheir opinonerging that much of what I said about Vegas is now emerging into the light of day. massive police cover ups, lies, deceit, and deception, and a whole string of people connected, one way or another, to the incident, being killed and their lives violently ended. So those who criticised me on my comments, previously, might want to consider their opinions on this again. it seems that there is some substance, to what was said. My thoughts are now that a long investigative and legal process is now underway, and I expect, by late summer, a lot of legal action, disclosures, and anger, by the relatives. I am also sticking to my opinion as to the deep state aspects of the case. They are there, and they will, eventually, emerge.
I just read through your entire thread - thank you for sharing your visions and insights. I have done a lot of deep research on the Vegas shooting...and it truly was a major incident (similar to 911) that woke up many many people. I've noticed you touched on some key things, but choose to refrain from posting information here. I concur - good idea. I do believe more and more will be exposed. And I hope this trails back to the truth about 911. It's all from the same type of corruption which includes the "elites" I feel.
I also noticed here, that no one is acknowledging "who" owns the top floors of the Mandalay Bay - "The Four Seasons." Not one mention of Saudi Arabia. MGM’s CEO, James Murren - dumped his stock prior to the event. And the fact that LVPD definitely did an absolutely horrible job at covering this one up. Seems like these major incidents are no longer going to be as easy to cover up. Too many people have awakened and seeker deeper truth.