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(@mtgal99)
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@mas1581 That is very encouraging news. I have been taking the acid blocker famotidine antihistamine for years. It is something I will be taking for the rest of my life due to esophageal cancer. I guest something good has come from that. Thanks again for the update.

I hope you and the rest of the family recover with mild to no symptoms. I am sending you all healing light and love. 



   
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(@lowtide)
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Posted by: @lowtide

By virtue of my job I was able to get the first Covid shot today. I get the second in three weeks. It was an humbling experience. I cried, with relief. I didn’t realize how much emotion and stress I’ve been carrying about this pandemic.

So far, no adverse reaction. I’ll let you know if I grow a third arm out of my ear, or some such.

I am doing this memory of my three Honduran friends and coworkers who died from Covid - Eduardo, Shane and Sandy. And those with Covid whom I’ve taken care of at work. 

 

 

My only side effect from the Covid shot was a banging headache that I woke up with on Friday morning. I took Tylenol in the morning and ibuprofen in the afternoon and at 4 pm it disappeared and didn’t return. It didn’t interfere with me working yesterday. 



   
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@lowtide

What a blessing.  I am so happy you were able to get the vaccine now.  I can imagine you were a swirl of emotions as your received it too.  May the memory of your friends continue to be a guiding light.  I am very happy the headache was manageable.  I am so excited!  Our community members are actually getting the first vaccines.  That is such a hopeful statement.  Hopeful for everyone. 



   
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@lovendures

It’s funny. It is being offered to ED and ICU staff at one of our large hospitals in Tampa. It will move on down to the smaller hospitals, but I felt compelled to drive the two hours to Tampa to go ahead and  get it. There is so much misinformation out there even among my colleagues that I figured maybe I could ease some fears and set an example. The doc I worked with yesterday asked me about it. He’s apprehensive. There’s a lot of apprehension among my younger coworkers, too. So I figured I would be the guinea pig for the group.

I will definitely make sure that after the second injection, I have a day or two off work. The second one is supposed to cause the worst side effects.



   
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As a side note, the New Zealand PM, Jacinda Ardern, just did this:

"New Zealand has announced it will provide the new Covid vaccine to any New Zealander who wants it — free of charge. Then they went further. They're also making the vaccine available to all of their Pacific island neighbors."

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1340373616064655366?s=20

She is such an inspirational leader. We need more leaders in the world like her.



   
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Hmm!

I have mixed feelings about this.

"President-elect Joe Biden plans to release nearly all available doses of the coronavirus vaccine once he takes office, seeking to speed up the sluggish start of a mass vaccination campaign as cases soar, hospitals are overwhelmed and a faster-spreading form of the virus has invaded the country.

The plan, announced Friday by the Biden transition team, pivots sharply from the Trump administration’s strategy of holding in reserve roughly half the doses to ensure sufficient supply for people to get a required second shot.
 
Biden’s plan is the most concrete signal to date of how he intends to reshape the federal role in the unprecedented campaign to vaccinate the nation and tamp down a devastating public health threat. It also places him squarely on one side of a heated dispute over the ethics and practicalities of accomplishing that goal."
 
 


   
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Posted by: @lovendures

Hmm!

I have mixed feelings about this.

"President-elect Joe Biden plans to release nearly all available doses of the coronavirus vaccine once he takes office, seeking to speed up the sluggish start of a mass vaccination campaign as cases soar, hospitals are overwhelmed and a faster-spreading form of the virus has invaded the country.

The plan, announced Friday by the Biden transition team, pivots sharply from the Trump administration’s strategy of holding in reserve roughly half the doses to ensure sufficient supply for people to get a required second shot.
 
Biden’s plan is the most concrete signal to date of how he intends to reshape the federal role in the unprecedented campaign to vaccinate the nation and tamp down a devastating public health threat. It also places him squarely on one side of a heated dispute over the ethics and practicalities of accomplishing that goal."
 
 

Yeah my first thoughts were mixed on this as well. However I am wondering if Pfizer and Moderna are running into a bottleneck where they are running out of storage space for produced vaccines waiting for distribution. In order to produce more, they first need to free up the storage space. 



   
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While far from a perfect solution, the science behind this is valid given our situation. Single doses are at least 52% effective while second doses are 94-95%. When trying to attain herd immunity for the masses, and it raging out of control, the numbers here make sense. 

If you inoculate 1 million people, at least 520,000 should have immunity with single doses whereas if we inoculated 500,000 woth double doses, only 488-490,000 would have immunity. Then we can give a second dose down the road and slow the spread a little more while waiting. Its just disgusting that we are back to rationing a year into this but we have to make due with what we have thanks to Trump.



   
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(@mas1581)
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We also should have a Johnson and Johnson single dose, and easier to store, sometime mid-late February to help.



   
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(@lovendures)
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@mas1581

Excellent news about a J and J single dose.  We need one

Except I truly dislike that company.  What they did with talc and their baby powder still gets me upset.  

They really need to show it is an ethical vaccine.  They have a hill to climb.  



   
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