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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@laynara.  I only meant that it will be much harder to see the future in our visions if we are too afraid to face certain futures. For example, I would not believe that Trump would win the 2016 election because I couldn't accept that this country would elect such a man.

What we will and will not post here is tricky, though, because I also don't want to give in to a negative future. We may see a future, but it might be a warning about something up ahead that we need to change. So we are seeing it in order to take the steps needed to change it. I never saw the 2020 crash as something we could avoid. But I see the destruction of earth as a future we have caused that we now need to turn around.

@laynara, I know you are a powerhouse.  I know you are afraid because you have suffered and because you are a sensitive, an empath, who feels so much. But I see your strength. I see how you reach out here and draw light.  I see how you are balancing your fear with gratitude and positivity.  So you are going to lead.

The climate situation is overwhelming to think about, and so I don't recommend ruminating on it.  But neither should we pretend it is not happening. We just have to each do our part to turn it around. When @Alyn said she calls out bullies and perpetrators, I was proud of her willingness to face up.   

I also believe we will get through all that we are facing. There will be a path for us just as there has been a path for us already during this unprecedented year. 



   
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Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

I only meant that it will be much harder to see the future in our visions if we are too afraid to face certain futures. For example, I would not believe that Trump would win the 2016 election because I couldn't accept that this country would elect such a man.

@jeanne-mayell Maybe Trump was not the initial future, but because half of the world was thinking , please not Trump, the universe shifted to Trump ( It hears what we mentioned and think that is what we ask for). I also thought it would be clear that Hilary win, it shifted a few weeks before the elections, or I got doubt. I visited Dayton, Ohio around that time, and saw how much leverage he had in the daily life. I remember I was shortly thinking, be careful what you ask for. But still, I would have bet Hilary to win.

The other post regarding what to tell and what not to tell was interesting, and also the replies. It seems there was a common feeling that something big was coming, I remember also that a lot of people expected Aliens to come in 2020 to change the world, or a meteor. So we might felt something. My believe is that there might be always at least two futures, some we can chance and some we do not. Interesting that the countries that having really big outbreaks are led by a certain type of leader ( US, Russia, Brazil, China, Turkey, UK). Italy , France and Spain I cannot place, why they are hit hard...

Thanks

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@5leafclover well I haven't gotten a thing. I don't want a debit card but I guess I'll take what comes, if anything ever does.



   
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@jeanne-mayell

If it is too much for someone to bear to realize how climate change is working, then you have your answer to the question of whether you will see what is coming in the future. ”

 

Jeanne, this is exactly what I thought about when the pandemic hit the US. If Americans can’t handle dealing with a pandemic, how will they/we handle all the changes from the Earth getting warmer.

ive thought how we need to be more self reliant on our food sources, on our energy, on our water. I keep looking at generators, but haven’t gotten one yet. 

I believe part of our stress is in realizing how our “President” and government are not in control and that we are pretty much on our own in many ways. We can’t keep saying we are the best country in the world when greed and selfishness are leading the way. After the photos I saw of people mingling in various places today, Sunday, there will be many new outbreaks. There has to be if all this is to change human behavior. There’s no point if there were not a huge new wave after people continue to believe its safe to mingle closely and without masks as well. 

Anyway, the predictions were right on. I just didn’t see what they meant because nothing referred to trump directly by name. Yet it’s all about him as well. Only this pandemic will result in a broken economy that could end his reign. Only this chaos will wake many up. I sure hope so.

Anita



   
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Posted by: @suspira44

@5leafclover well I haven't gotten a thing. I don't want a debit card but I guess I'll take what comes, if anything ever does.

If you neither want it or need it, you could donate it to a food bank , etc.    (Or even the Biden campaign-- LOL)



   
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Posted by @baba :

When making predictions, it is about feeling what is going on around us at any given time. It is not set in stone that any one thing will happen. 

Posted by @jeanne-mayell :

 We may see a future, but it might be a warning about something up ahead that we need to change. 

A psychic I knew once told me to think of the trajectory of a prediction as a tree, with many branches (paths).  The way I think about the scary times we’re now experiencing is this:  although it may not look like it, we're all on a road headed in the direction of healing, wholeness, and unity.  That's our final destination.  In many ways we have carelessly veered off course and taken another path.  That decision, whether based on mindlessness, fear, ego – probably all three and more -- might make our trip rocky and even increasingly treacherous.  But along the way, there are always other paths we will encounter that can lead us back to the main road and towards our intended destination.  We may have lost our way and it may take us longer to get there, but that road to wholeness is always available to us.  It will take humility to acknowledge our mistakes and the courage to change ourselves, but we can always choose another path.  That is what gives me hope.  

@anita, I have thought the same thing you expressed;  If Americans can’t handle dealing with a pandemic, how will they/we handle all the changes from the Earth getting warmer?   I do believe that if we had strong leaders who were ethical, relied on science, modeled good behavior, showed empathy, gave us hope and united us -- whew! -- most people would not be in denial or fighting what is in the best interest of society.   Everyone would be willing to do their part, recognizing that we’re all in this together.     

I remain hopeful, but I refuse to live in la-la land.  Although I believe that we can always start anew, we must work with what we have before us – much of it of our own making.  In a recent interview John Kerry was addressing climate change and remarked, if you think this pandemic is bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.   I don’t know Kerry’s intuitive abilities, but you need not be psychic to have recognized what was coming.  

I will close with the following words from @bluebelle :

In spite of everything we are going through, in spite of the losses we are experiencing, I have such peace and optimism about the future.  We are going to get through this.  



   
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Posted by: @lovendures
Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

We knew that something huge was coming.   

For four straight years I posted on the main prediction page that I saw late 2019 and 2020 as a time when there would be a major game-changing crash of some kind. For a few years, I thought it was going to be an economic crash but one that was so big that it would cause a paradigm shift. 

@jeanne-mayell

Do you know how badly I would like to respond to your message Jeanne, especially after what you said in Monday's class and Wednesday's meditation?

It would start with 2 words. "Yes Jeanne..."  

(I hope you can hear me smiling right now.)

Lovendures, thank you for writing this. Helps me not to feel so unheard, a common plight of psychic empathic people.  The Greek myth of Cassandra reminds us that psychics have not been believed for thousands of years. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

Jeanne, you are heard.  

It is soooo frustrating  when you feel you are not being truly heard.  I can deal with a lot, but not being heard is extremely frustrating.

In relationship to this pandemic, I think it is a bit like the story of the blind men and the elephant. Each man touched a different part of the elephant and understood that part, the best that they could with the knowledge they had.  The tail seemed like a rope, the trunk a snake, the tusk a spear.  But understanding they were feeling an elephant from just a single part was not possible.  

Jeanne, you new so much about what was going to happen.  Amazingly so my friend.  Some visions you received  only a few months before the pandemic and others like the crash, for years ahead of time. I know you felt this was going to be a huge event.  We just did not understand what the event was in entirety.  You had the leg, and the tail, and the trunk and the ear.  Each of those events was big on it's own.   Adding the visions of others on our site, we had more of the elephant.  We just didn't assemble them to form an elephant.

The elephant was truly entering  the room.  

But maybe we were not supposed to understand the elephant was coming.  Maybe we were only supposed to understand the leg, tail, ear and trunk.  

Maybe next time we can better recognize the elephant.  Well, it will not likely be an elephant next time, but we might be a able to discover the tiger entering the room. Hopefully we can first discover the little bunny,  something cute and fluffy before the tiger comes. We know it is coming and we know in large part because of you.

 



   
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@ana need it? If I told you what I live on yearly you'd be donating to me.



   
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Posted by: @suspira44

@ana need it? If I told you what I live on yearly you'd be donating to me.

No, I am fortunate enough not to need it.  I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way.  It sounded like maybe you really didn't want to take the money as a matter of principle.   

 But reading back again I guess you meant it was that you preferred not to have it as a debit card.  My bad. 



   
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Posted by: @lovendures

The elephant was truly entering  the room.  

But maybe we were not supposed to understand the elephant was coming.  Maybe we were only supposed to understand the leg, tail, ear and trunk.  

What if the elephant is not alone, that there are more to come. I often think it is not the only thing that will happen.

I keep feeling it is not done, we will get a second challenge, global challenge .I hope it is not to negative. Weather will be the challenge. Something is set in motion because we all stayed home. I am not getting a grip on it. When I think of it I feel very sad for the now, and very cheerful for the aftermath. Such a strange year. I also have the feeling the year flies by...



   
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The elephant was truly entering  the room.  

But maybe we were not supposed to understand the elephant was coming.  Maybe we were only supposed to understand the leg, tail, ear and trunk.  

 I often think it is not the only thing that will happen.

It is not going to be enough.  My hope and feeling is that COVID turns people's attention toward a more global perspective, allowing us to deal with other, much more serious challenges.  (Because face it, a virus that only kills a few % of it's victims is a serious wimp on the scale of possible apocalyptic events.)



   
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@ana It's okay. I'm very fortunate, right now I am living with my family after living in New York City for 30 years and Boston before that. I was a performer. I always had a "bread and butter" job but, needless to say, my social security -- which I had to take early -- was nothing like that of someone who had steady job for years and years. But I'm not going to lie, I can use the money. 



   
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Posted by: @suspira44

@ana It's okay. I'm very fortunate, right now I am living with my family after living in New York City for 30 years and Boston before that. I was a performer. I always had a "bread and butter" job but, needless to say, my social security -- which I had to take early -- was nothing like that of someone who had steady job for years and years. But I'm not going to lie, I can use the money. 

I wonder how many of us are in the performing arts— I’m a professional musician and I am very very worried about the future of my career. Unfortunately while I have had some striking intuitive experiences, they come unbidden at moments of personal stress and right now I cannot get a feel for what my future holds. I’m sure the strong emotions involved are interfering as well.



   
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I'm not a performing astist myself, but I'm still an artist where I've delved into literature and narrative related stuff, such as scriptwriting and creating comics. But there's still a sense of fear on how the pandemic causes major upheavals, even on my personal end despite the social support from the Australian Government.

I've been trying to help out my comic studio as much as possible, such as paying rent on time and helping to buy stuff they needed on occasions like toilet paper, milk, etc. And also maintain the social distencing in the studio. (Two per person in the studio on the day only.) I hope the studio I'm part of stays afloat and not get shut down like the other business I've saw with my own eyes.

I also heard intutition can get muddled when emotions runs high. My suggestion is to take things easy, even during mediation. Just focus on the self healing and don't take things hard on yourself. I'm sure it will come back, but it needs to heal and rest in the meantime.



   
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Posted by: @unk-p

if his campaign is dumb enough to send one of those to me, i will take the postage-paid donation envelope, and stuff it full of Covid 19 obituaries, and send *that* back to them.

Or i could just tape it to a brick, and let his campaign pay a little more postage.

@unk-p

Sounds like exactly what I will do too!

TO EVERYONE - here is PROOF that the ORANGE NIGHTMARE knew about this virus back in January - January 20, 2020 to be exact. He should be in the Hague for crimes against humanity. He is personally responsible for most of the unnecessary deaths of many Americans, since he was briefed in his daily briefings about a man who flew from Wuhan China to Washington State. The bright spot in this article is that Remdesivir helped this man's symptoms and healing from the Virus.

https://time.com/5840207/coronavirus-treatment-remdesivir/



   
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I have been observing this forum since early last year. Since last year i thought the onset of recession will be March 2020. I thought i was the Trump-China trade war that brought the world into recession. However, in late January when China imposed lockdown, i got myself agitated because that could be the real trigger for global recession, hence,well prepared myself to shelter the aftermaths.  

It is true that we, current human populations have never live through a global pandemic, making it difficult to 'see' as there is no point of reference. Motivated by this, I would like to expand your point of references that things that might come at the global scale. This pandemic is nothing compared to what it comes, it is just a preparatory point that helps us to learn the weakness in current political and monetary system. I afraid that people in power within this decade will still be stubborn. I would recommend the book, "Thiaoouba Prophecy". Google it, you can find the pdf book. Michel Desmarquet the author of that book who had passed away last year also written a book called Nature's Revenge  did describe the global virus outbreak. 

It is true that we will have to deal with the very sudden unexpected effect of global change within this 2 decades, which i see some of you have described it in the predictions in decade ahead. It is the natural cycle and it is inevitable, worsens by human behaviour. Finger crossed. 



   
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I posted last Saturday that I had a vision that the virus was decreasing or weakening in some manner.  I seemed to see a statistical curve going down quickly and a spider on its back.

Three days later I had a dream that seemed to clarify my question whether this was just temporary.  I had a dream that I was in another person's house, felt like a guest bedroom.  I saw a piece of furniture that had signs of something disturbing.  I lifted up the furniture and there was thousands of tiny pale weird looking bugs hiding under the furniture. They were clumped together in two large masses and hiding as best they could.  I was determined to squish the bugs and kill them, but their light little bodies scattered as soon as I made a motion towards them.  I felt weird and left the house, got in my car and as I was driving away saw that a few of them had somehow become hidden in one of my sleeves and had crawled out onto my hand as I was driving.  I started to take one hand off the steering wheel to squish them.  I was successful with two bugs.  Then I noticed a third bug on my hand was actually more tan than the other two and easier to see as it crawled.  The same time I noticed this I looked closely at the skin on my hand and it had tiny bumps which I knew were bugs that were somehow under my skin.  These bumps were tiny but plentiful and creeped me out during the dream so much that it was difficult to deal with the last bug on my hand and it escaped.  Then I woke up.  I had the feeling this dream was about the virus but wasn't sure as it wasn't spiders like the last few dreams.  I think the virus "bug" is represented this way because it is being portrayed in the dream as less scary as it seems to decrease in numbers. Maybe this means it will appear that the virus situation will be better for a while but in reality the virus is still around in higher numbers than we realize and mutating (the one bug was a different color from the others).  The bugs under the skin could represent all the asymptomatic carriers which we can't deal with since we still don't institute a comprehensive testing regime.  The asymptomatic people are one of the main problems...if everyone wore a face mask this would ameliorate the asymptomatic carrier problem but many people refuse to wear face masks.  Some strains may be more problematic than others, some strains of virus may linger on under the radar more than others...all of these strains are still mutating.  I am not sure what this means for our future in fighting the virus. So stay wary and careful my friends.



   
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I am soooo tired of people not wearing masks. 

It reminds me of the 80"s and 90's when there was a big division of whether we should have smoking allowed in restaurants and public places.  So many restaurant owners complained not having a smoking section would drive away business.  Most states/cities have bans now, though some still do not which is difficult to believe.  But having a ban didn't keep people from gong to restaurants.  No one can smoke on US airfreights now either.  There are things we just should do.  Right now it should be no shirt, no shoo3s, not mask no service.

 



   
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@lovendures

Hear hear!! I am actually more worried about going shopping and to doctor appointments than I was during lockdown. People are just so inconsiderate. I have to remember to breathe because I'm getting a lot more stinkeyes than I should be and it makes me very angry. I'm exhausted of asking people politely to please put their mask on and having them tell me to go f*ck myself "it's still a free country" (LOL, yeah right). There's no enforcement of the few remaining rules left anyways. I would grade them:

Retail workers - A+. Delivery people - B-. Nurses- A+. Med techs - B. Other Shoppers - F-. People walking on sidewalks - F. Joggers - F-. People on bikes - A-. Homeless - B+. Police on duty - B+. EMTs and Firemen - A+.

And then there's my eye doctor. Who I had to go to last week for a long postponed follow up on a minor issue. Long story short, she touched my face/eyes without washing her hands or wearing gloves. I pushed away and asked to to disinfect her hands. She put a drop of Purell on her hands while she laughed at me and made phony excuses.  I couldn't leave right then due to what was being done, but I was so steamed I emailed her. I wanted to report her somewhere, but there's literally nowhere, trust me, I tried. I thought maybe the state medical board, but my husband wants to return to her and I didn't want to get us both fired from the practice. Her reply was contrite and insincere, so I won't be returning to her ever again and mark my words, if I come down sick within the month after, I'm going to sue her so hard that her grandkids will be paying damages to my grandkids.

Driving to another medical appointment today (5 blocks away, but that's what it's come to), I noticed restaurants that are supposed to have tables 6 feet apart do not, with big signs "We're open!" So seeing that, I'm having to cross some of them off my order in list because if it was just their kitchen people with masks and gloves that's ok, but now with the public in and out contaminating all surfaces, nope.

So reopening for many of means even deeper self-isolation. And we still haven't figured out what to do when my husband begins biz travel again...

Stephen Hawking once said that stupidity and greed would lead to the end of humanity. Right now I can totally see that.



   
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