@ Journeywithme2. I hope you'll get through this. It sounds like a very frightening situation. I hope more ppl will take it seriously and protect & serve their fellow man.
Sending you good vibes on retirement. May you arrive at that point healthy and full-filled.
@jeanne-mayell Here is an important observation I have made as a patient in the health care system: One very common moneymaking "scam" among mainstream medical doctors that I have observed again and again in the American health care system goes like this: The patient is warned that he is at risk for a future heart attack. Sometimes findings on an EKG or an echocardiogram can be used to frighten the patient so he will cooperate with a protocol that is really designed to inflate the profits of medical clinics.
The protocol starts with a "stress test" to evaluate the patient's risk for a heart attack. If the results suggest a possible problem the next step is an invasive procedure known as an angiogram to see if the patient has clogged arteries. If a suspect coronary artery is found the next step is a very expensive and even more invasive procedure known as placing a stent to open a clogged artery.
Here is what the doctors don't tell you:
1. The track record of stress tests in making the right call on a patient's heart health is not so good. You would actually do far better with a cardiac calcium scoring test or a CIMT test. Most mainstream doctors will never write a prescription for a cardiac calcium scoring test because they are not lucrative. CIMT tests are less available.
2. It has been shown in studies that stents have no significant benefit in the prevention of heart attacks. You would actually do better to focus on your diet and life style.
3. Mainstream doctors want you to believe that clogged arteries must always be dealt with thru some type of expensive and invasive procedure like placing stents. But many people have greatly improved their cardiac heath with diet and life style changes.
4. This protocol is frequently recommended and performed because it's highly lucrative, not because it's best, which it isn't in many cases.
There are many other examples of protocols that are frequently recommended and performed because they are lucrative, not because they're best.
@journeywithme2 So sorry you're not getting the protection you need and praying for your continued health!
Thank you! I will continue to self-isolate and follow steps as much as possible to minimize exposure..but.. for 2.5 days a week.. will be more vulnerable...prayers are always appreciated and welcomed. I pray we all stay safe and get to VOTE that thing out of office.
- @5leafclover. Thank you. I have felt this way for a long time with cardiologists in three different cities. Same protocol. Expensive tests , monitors etc. I feel healthcare has become a series of boxes being checked off.
Once again, the Republicans show they are the anti-life party.
If I were the citizens of Wisconsin, I would social distance regardless. Let the Republican voters go out to the bars and businesses. Let them flaunt themselves by "sticking it to the libs" and go out without masks.
Come November, it is likely we will see far fewer Republican voters. So much the better.
I'm sorry, but I am sick to death of these people putting everyone at risk and only caring about themselves. For them, there is no compromise. They want to open the economy and yet refuse to social distance, wear masks, or otherwise take precautions. Meanwhile, numerous health care workers, EMTs, and nurses die by the thousands because they selflessly put themselves at risk to care for others.
If several thousand Republican voters and protesters die from the coronavirus due to their refusal to think of others and their refusal to compromise on anything, then I say let them. Sometimes people will turn to the dark no matter what, and there is nothing we can do to change it. I'm only sorry they are dragging thousands of innocents with them. If I had my way, then every person who willfully put themselves in harm's way (such as protesting) and gets the virus should be refused admittance into all the hospitals. Why should these doctors put themselves and their families at risk for people who don't give them any consideration.
As for Republican governors underreporting the death toll...yeah, they may do it. But the Red States need the Blue States (such as California, New York, etc.) to operate, or they can never recover. So all that is going to end up happening is that, come November, the Blue states will be slowly but surely back on the path to recovery, while the Red states will barely be able to hold their heads above water (due to lack of resources and jobs that are often available in blue states).
I am in the same boat. We start opening courts back on Monday. I will be wearing a mask and gloves (as well as carry a container of antibacterial wipes). It is my own practice, so no one is forcing me to per se. However, I have many clients who are in custody, and I can't let them continue to languish in the jails. I can only pray that the security measures we put in place will be enough.
I live in the red state above you (Tennessee). Like Georgia, my area loves Trump and worships him without thought. Although there is quite a few Anti-Trump Republicans who secretly wished he would die or resign before he drags the party any lower. I can't say I blame them.
Your post belongs in a different thread and under a different topic, as it does not apply to CV19. I suggest starting a new thread under "Cope and Thrive...". @jeanne-mayell can you help move this post?
My reply also doesn't belong here, so please feel free to move it as well:
My husband has a stent. In his left descending anterior artery (aka "Widowmaker"). It saved his life. A friend of his born on the exact same day had the exact symptoms and did not seek treatment and nearly died of 2 heart attacks. He now has 6 stents and is awaiting heart transplant because huge chunks of his heart are actually dead.
I'm not going to share personal details, and I don't think this forum is the proper place to share gripes about the medical establishment that, while I agree there is a lot of fraud and chicanery, might encourage someone to NOT seek medical care before it's too late. Not everything is a scam, saying it is is science denial, which I will not tolerate.
I how Republicans are pro life and want to take away a women’s rights to her own reproductive organs. Now all of a sudden they don’t care if you live or die and they are chanting my body my choice in regard to wearing mask and social distancing.
I saw that only 45 minutes after the Supreme Court decision a bar was open and full of people.
If people don’t want to wear a mask or do any kind of social distancing they should have to sign a waver that’s they will not see any medical help. These are selfish people who only think of themselves.
I agree on the waver! However I do think there are people like that in all walks of life and not necessarily just one party. We have ppl like that as well, unfortunately;-(
Maybe carry pepper-spray and get past the crowds that way!
On a more serious note, I hope all of you who are forced into these unsafe situation will stay okay somehow.
LOVE THIS!
The city of Austin, Texas just developed a color-coded alert system regarding risk levels in Austin.
The COVID-19: Risk-Based Guidelines Chart is a color coded alert system ( like our former terror alter system). The chart provides recommendations on what people should do to stay safe during the pandemic. The chart has different restrictions depending upon whether you are high or low risk as well.
Austin is currently on the Stage 3 level which is yellow. It can move up or down a stage at any given time depending upon how the city is doing in handling the virus.
Why do I like this Chart?
First, we are all familiar with the old color coded national terror chart so this is "familiar" to people.
Second, It is simple to follow.
Third, it has different guidelines based upon your personal risk level.
Fourth, Austin is a BLUE city surrounded by a red state. It is doing what it can to protect its citizens regardless of how lax the state is taking things.
Dr. Rick Bright testified in front of congress and what he said is scary. This is some of the things he said:
...US will face an even worse crisis without additional preparations to curb the coronavirus pandemic.
"Our window of opportunity is closing," Bright said. "Without better planning, 2020 could be the darkest winter in modern history."
Bright criticized the Trump administration for failing to implement a "standard, centralized, coordinated plan" to combat the virus and questioned its timeline for a vaccine. His testimony came a week after filing a whistleblower complaint alleging he was fired from his job leading the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority for opposing the use of a drug frequently touted by President Donald Trump as a potential coronavirus treatment.
Bright claimed that the administration missed "early warning signals" to prevent the spread of the virus. He said that he would "never forget" an email from Mike Bowen, the hearing's other witness and the vice president of the medical supply company Prestige Ameritech, indicating that the US supply of N95, the respirator masks used by health care professionals, was at a perilous level.
He said, 'We're in deep shit,'" testified Bright. "'The world is.'"
Bright said he "pushed" that warning "to the highest levels" he could at Health and Human Services but received "no response."
"From that moment, I knew that we were going to have a crisis for health care workers because we were not taking action," said Bright. "We were already behind the ball."
And forget about a Vaccine..this is what he said:
In his testimony, Bright also cast doubt on the Trump administration's goal of manufacturing a vaccine in 12 to 18 months as overly optimistic, calling it "an aggressive schedule" and noting that it usually takes up to 10 years to make a vaccine.
I have a friend who is a USDA (meat packing plant) inspector in this region. She has been very upset with how things have been running with COVID. She has felt her life has been in jeopardy for over 2 months now with little support from the USDA. She has been documenting her experiences (without too much detail) for months now. It isn't pretty.
@lovendures please put this friend on our prayer list. Can you give her a spirit name so she will not be identified?
A new study found Covid-19 detected in the sperm of men who have had the disease. It isn't known yet if detectable COVID viral particles in semen are infectious. This contradicts a previous study from China which didn’t find traces of the virus in semen of men who had tested positive.
I agree with what you said. That folks who defy the orders need to sign a waiver.
My spouse, who has a background in public health and works in healthcare (research and usability), also has a good spidy-sense. Thanks to her senses, we stocked up on toilet paper, pantry items, etc. in January. She said she had a feeling, combined with the news we were starting to see emerge from China (she minored in pandemics).
Yesterday she said that we need to start re-stocking things now, and then when things open enough to do it, we should take care of what we need to by getting in and getting out. Meaning stuff like getting your hair cut, get any meds you need, new glasses, shoes, etc. Get those things taken care of, then self-isolate again as much as possible. She's not an alarmist (thankfully) but did say based on what we are seeing (Minnesota anyone??) that not only will there be a second wave, but we could lose many health care workers and emergency responders in the process.
I don't think you need to be psychic to know that really, but I wanted to pass it along because she has an uncanny knowing sometimes. (But boy do I hope she's wrong about this one!!)
I agree with what you said. That folks who defy the orders need to sign a waiver.
My spouse, who has a background in public health and works in healthcare (research and usability), also has a good spidy-sense. Thanks to her senses, we stocked up on toilet paper, pantry items, etc. in January. She said she had a feeling, combined with the news we were starting to see emerge from China (she minored in pandemics).
Yesterday she said that we need to start re-stocking things now, and then when things open enough to do it, we should take care of what we need to by getting in and getting out. Meaning stuff like getting your hair cut, get any meds you need, new glasses, shoes, etc. Get those things taken care of, then self-isolate again as much as possible. She's not an alarmist (thankfully) but did say based on what we are seeing (Minnesota anyone??) that not only will there be a second wave, but we could lose many health care workers and emergency responders in the process.
I don't think you need to be psychic to know that really, but I wanted to pass it along because she has an uncanny knowing sometimes. (But boy do I hope she's wrong about this one!!)
As this is , understandable, a US centric forum and topics I would like to tell a bit from Europe. I work for a company that deploys at a swedish furniture giant Digital Signage around the world. As I am in charge of that I travel often, not so much lately. I was a few days in Austria, they adapted pretty well to the new life with Corona. All wearing masks, they kept the country in lockdown for two months, just re-openend , but all wearing mask in buildings and public transport. And keep social distancing. I was in a large mall and everyone had a mask on. Interesting is that in Austroa the younger people adapted masks as fashion item, and that you had two pop-up stores selling design masks :-) , pretty amazing how fast people/retail adapts. The retailers are selling in average 50% a day more than before the lockdown.
Before I allowed to go to Austria I needed a Covid Test not older than 4 days, and an invitation from the company that I visited. All worked fine ( Only the test is not really fine, they put a swap in your nose, almost up to you brains :-( )
Same in Germany, also mask, also good Retail figures. I am from Germany, but live in the Netherlands. Germany has the same system then Austria.
Netherlands, no mask, but social distancing and you need a shopping card and/or 6 feet distance. And only a limited amount of people are allowed inside the stores
In all countries Restaurants are closed but will open in 2 - 3 weeks , but with limited capacity and distancing.
So far it seems to work pretty well
But we see in a couple of weeks ...
My spidey sense is saying the same thing. I told my husband to call his hair cutter, and have her come do a haircut outside in our backyard, with masks and gloves. Our pantry is still well stocked because I've been replacing what we use on the weekly shopping trips, and I'm keeping my eyes peeled for things that disappeared but are still hard to find (Lysol, bleach, rubbing alcohol...).
I'm letting my various group activity leaders know that they should find ways to continue to provide services online, because I have NO intention of returning to any group activity til next Spring. I've moved non-urgent medical appointments to early September.
So here is where I could use some group problem solving:
I'm a "retired" allied healthcare pro with years of infection control training. My husband is a software sales dude who traveled for most of the last 21 years. I've tried and tried to train him, and while he's made some progress, he's not adept at doing what's needed to keep things clean (in his defense he was raised by wolves).
Eventually he will have to start traveling again, mostly to DC to meet with feds, I suspect by late July. Our house is small, with only one bathroom. We know that household transmission is the fastest way to get CV19. I have NO way to isolate him in the house and keep him away from the bathroom and kitchen. I can't isolate myself for the same reason, plus I'm the cook-maid-cleaner-gardener-gofer, and it's been my job to keep our daughter and her boyfriend out of our house and in our garage (which has its own bathroom but not kitchen). They've actually been more considerate of my high risk status than my husband.
So what to do? We can't exactly afford for him to go to a hotel for 2 weeks every time he travels, and besides, once he's on the road the trips are closer together than that anyway.
I'm starting to despair of a solution... we have friends in the larger area with slightly larger homes, but I can't impose on them for either of us to move in with them for what would probably be 6-9 months. And my daughter and her BF were planning to move into a place of their own at the end of the summer, but now with job layoffs, that probably won't happen til next year, and I don't think we can afford to pay for them to move either, right now, because hubby's business has slowed too and money is tight.
On a more positive note, my husband's boss has been terrific - he has promised no layoffs, is not forcing anyone to travel til they feel comfortable, he even sent us some KN95 masks and said he wants everyone to expense some local takeout meals-his treat. But I know my husband, and once the feds he works with tell him he has to go to DC to close a deal, he'll go.
@kateinpdx
im in St. Paul and a teacher. I was feeling low when gov Walz announced opening up- bc why is a dem gov doing this with what we know the day after Fauci says be careful? Add Wisconsin supreme
court decision
I’m just hoping that things get bad enough that we close schools in fall bc I worry mostly about schools transmitting it like wildfire.
after Walz announced I made a grocery store run before it lifts. It’s up to ourselves to protect ourselves. I don’t understand how social distancing is in effect and people are going to bars and drinking- how are you supposed to consume food and beverage and mask up? Anyone with any logic knows this is not a safe decision.