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(@lovendures)
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@dhyanaji

Welcome to the forum.  I see this is your first post, thank you for joining us. 



   
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Something to (hopefully) make you laugh:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojrtwXqqc6g

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pptyJgq4zkM

 



   
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My apologies for not being around the past few weeks.. I have been working the phones remotely for the clinic for the past two weeks - 6 days a week and it was totally exhausting.. especially when I usually work only 2.5 days a week in the clinic regularly - being semi-retired. I go back in the clinic to Tuesday in spite of Georgia having still rising rates of Covid-19 and the Governor extending the shelter at home for high risk until 6-12-1-20. I am not in a financial position to decline to return at this time and thus must go and take my chances taking all precautions and continuing self-isolation where at all possible. I wanted to stop by and wish all of the mothers here a blessed and Happy Mother's Day. May we all find Joy and Love and Hope where we can and see our blessings in this time of turmoil and uncertainty. Prayers Light and Love ongoing to all. ❤️ ? ? ? ? ? ❤️ 



   
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@lovendures  It's very hard to go against the Indian tribes when they are just doing what is necessary to minimize loss of life among their own people.  I understand that a treaty gives the Indian tribes jurisdiction over their territory, not the governor.



   
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On Sunday, my dad went to an Asian supermarket to buy some lobsters for the stir fry. When he went there, the supermarket reopened but with a new owner. The place isn't busy. I feel that New York City and Long Island will reopen by late-May the earliest or mid-June the lastest.

I feel that the second wave will affect the red states, but worst than the blue states.



   
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@enkasongwriter

Sorry, but I disagree. Red states will see increases in cases and deaths regardless, but the blue states who have already "peaked" will see a second peak in cases.

Just today in Seoul, they found 50 new cases, all traceable to ONE person who visited 5 public places in one evening. And the reason they know that is that they have lots of testing and extremely efficient tracking.



   
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@enkasongwriter

I don’t think Long Island is opening up until may end of June or July. We have don’t meet all the criterias. Also I live 20 minutes away to the epicenter. 1 town alone has 4K positive and another almost 2k.  Which is crazy since almost all towns have an average of let’s say 3 hundred. It can be more but I am ball parking it. Unfortunately the towns that have the most minorities are the worst affected. There numbers keep going up not down unfortunately. 

https://www.longislandhub.com/coronavirus-long-island-towns#P



   
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@laura-f Do you see a devastating second wave? I don't feel it.



   
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Posted by: @laura-f

@enkasongwriter

Sorry, but I disagree. Red states will see increases in cases and deaths regardless, but the blue states who have already "peaked" will see a second peak in cases.

Just today in Seoul, they found 50 new cases, all traceable to ONE person who visited 5 public places in one evening. And the reason they know that is that they have lots of testing and extremely efficient tracking.

50 cases?

Good Grief!!!  That is certainly not 2 cases for one person, or even per place visited by one person.



   
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There is a statistic called the "R naught" or R0. It represents the number of people infected by one person with a particular infectious disease. In the case of CV19, the goal is to keep the R0 to 2 or lower, meaning that an infectious person is not infecting more than 2 other people (whether they have symptoms or not).

Currently in the US, I believe I read that the R0 number in dense urban areas is 6.5 on average. Even if you round that down to 6, R0 is an exponential function, it means each of those 6 people in turn infect 6 other people, and so on and so on.

This doesn't mean an infected individual can't infect more or less than the R0 number.

Here is an excellent link to an article that lays out, with pictures (!) how CV19 spreads. Spoiler: we are nowhere near ready as a country, or frankly as a planet, to loosen up restrictions yet.

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

@enkasongwriter - I spent most of my life in LI, I am sorry it's so bad there. And yes, I see not just a second wave. What I see is a very bad second wave followed by smaller waves through 2021 into early 2022 - I see them as ripples on water that a stone has been thrown into, the first few ripples are bigger, and then the ripples get smaller until the water is calm again (and until the stone sinks to the bottom).



   
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      Here is a statistic that should really bother Americans. The United States has only 4.34% of the world's population but we have 31.9% of the COVID-19 cases. We have a 6% death rate based on the ratio of COVID-19 deaths to COVID-19 cases. Other nations with much better leaders don't have a 6% death rate.

      When you have an extreme narcissist in the White House who is not remotely interested in the amount of human suffering and cares only about his own money, his own power, and his oversized ego, this is what you get.



   
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@5leafclover Shows why our health care is ranked 36th in the world in spite of being by far the most expensive per capita. The heath care industry is the richest health care industry in the world and administrators in health care including and especially third party insurers are part of the wealth class.



   
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I found out from my alma mater that the graduation commencement will be held online, where my cap and gown and yearbook will be shipped to the door.



   
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The Wisconsin Supreme Court has struck down Evers closing schools and Businesses in order to fight the Pandemic. 

This is crazy. The Republicans at their finest again. I feel for these citizens. This is just going to empower T and his friends to fight every order issued by any Democratic governor to help stop this pandemic.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court has struck down Gov. Tony Evers order shutting down daily life to limit the spread of coronavirus — marking the first time a statewide order of its kind has been knocked down by a court of last resort. 

The state's highest court sided with Republican lawmakers Wednesday in a decision that curbed Democratic Gov. Tony Evers' power to act unilaterally during public health emergencies. 

 

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/13/wisconsin-supreme-court-strikes-down-tony-evers-coronavirus-orders/5179205002/



   
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@jessi1978 Here we go again in the U.S. as banana republic. This country has just 3.4% of the world population and over 30% of the Covid cases according to latest counts. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

you know the Republicans governors are going to under report the Covid deaths so it looks like only blue states have a problem



   
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@jessi1978 We only need to look at death rates in general and compare them to prior years by date month and location to see the Covid deaths.  They are already seeing that in Latin America an astronomical underreported surge in deaths by country.  They can do that for the U.S. too. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

 



   
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I had to go back to work this week...wearing a mask - still not able to maintain social distancing from coworkers. Not having to physically interact with clients.. but coworkers are. One coworker grabbed me and hugged me *sigh* the one I worked in 3 feet of all day. If I had not gone back to work .. I would be out of a job... and as a single woman 98 percent of my life... my social security isn't enough to make it on by itself.. it just allows me to work less. I do get Medicare in 3 months - so after not having insurance for 10 years + .. I pray I stay healthy .  I live alone except for my animals - getting seriously sick is a concern for sure. Gov. Kemp extended the shelter in place for my age/health risk group to June 12th. My job paid my salary for 6 weeks while I stayed home. Then they said I needed to come back. I p.. I am in a red state where many have drank the Kool-aid of the Orange Foolius. I see way to many ..going out..no masks..still spouting no worse than the flu, gotta work, eating out, getting haircuts ..not wearing masks.. and laughing it up about the "Hoax" We were opened up before the death rate went down .. it is still going up and I sense a BIG wave coming at us. Trump's remarks today about Dr Fauci and about sending kdis back to school .....because it doesn't affect them and they need to go to school and their parents need to go to work" is truly.. what is unacceptable. It's gonna get way worse ..before it gets better.



   
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@journeywithme2

I think you should talk to someone in HR about how you are an "at risk" person and you need accommodations in the workplace, especially no physical contact from other employees. Can you get a doctor note to back that up?



   
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@laura-f

It's a small veterinary clinic - 10 employees max.. no true HR to speak of - they know I am at risk which is why they applied for PPP for the clinic. I was the only one out for 6 weeks. I don't think they got the loan. I work 2.5 days a week...we are moving in to our new clinic this weekend.. I will not be required to work /assist with that...as too many people. They really have done all they can do... which I appreciate. I am just not in a part of Georgia that is taking this as seriously as it should be.. and.. our county was one of the early hotspots. Major outbreak here first week of March from a church reunion. If only that ONE person didn't have to hug me... or the others... act like I am "overreactive"  I have copies of labs and my diagnoses. They know its legit. They know I turn 65 in 3 months. I can "tell on the person" but I told her NO HUGGING after she grabbed me. it is what it is. I am working on clearing old energy and manifesting a way to retire in full and comfortably.



   
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