if his followers want to shoot up Lysol, swallow light bulbs, or vape all the Tide Pods, who am i to tell them not to?
Imbleachment. I love it.
This morning someone referred to T's daily briefings as "Open Mic Night."
And Joe Scarborough said this about the Mad King's insane medical ramblings: "The President was talking about things that you actually would expect to see from Dr. Nick on 'The Simpsons.' It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_w_n-8w3IQ
On another topic: yogagirl, what are Kentuckians saying about Mitch's vile statements about not wanting to financially help New York?
It gets curiouser and curiouser ...
We have all probably heard about the big cats, some of the tigers and lions at the Bronx Zoo testing positive for CV-19, but now there are reports of two domestic cats in NY that have tested positive as well ...!?!!
Before we donate our beloved little fur babies to NASA for a space shot or lock them out of the house, the acclaimed Dr. Anthony Fauci has definitely stated that it is not possible for the virus to be transmitted from animal to human.
He suggested that if you are a CV-19 + human, to wear a mask around your pet and not to handle him/her alot .... be kind to felines!
This new weird development begs the question : WTH? do cats and bats have in common that makes them susceptible to human viruses? ??
Interesting article in the Guardian today : "Coronavirus has been detected on particles of air pollution by scientists investigating whether this could enable it to be carried over longer distances and increase the number of people infected." "
The Italian scientists used standard techniques to collect outdoor air pollution samples at one urban and one industrial site in Bergamo province and identified a gene highly specific to Covid-19 in multiple samples. The detection was confirmed by blind testing at an independent laboratory.
Leonardo Setti at the University of Bologna in Italy, who led the work, said it was important to investigate if the virus could be carried more widely by air pollution."
Read the entire article here: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/24/coronavirus-detected-particles-air-pollution
It would explain a lot wouldn't it.
It gets curiouser and curiouser ...
We have all probably heard about the big cats, some of the tigers and lions at the Bronx Zoo testing positive for CV-19, but now there are reports of two domestic cats in NY that have tested positive as well ...!?!!
Before we donate our beloved little fur babies to NASA for a space shot or lock them out of the house, the acclaimed Dr. Anthony Fauci has definitely stated that it is not possible for the virus to be transmitted from animal to human.
He suggested that if you are a CV-19 + human, to wear a mask around your pet and not to handle him/her alot .... be kind to felines!
This new weird development begs the question : WTH? do cats and bats have in common that makes them susceptible to human viruses? ??
It's not a virus that originated in humans. Most viruses originate in animals, and many others are literally in the environment - dirt, etc. (e.g., Marburg). SARS-CoV-2 (COVID19) originated in bats, and crossed over into humans either from the bats or through another animal first (e.g., pangolin). Viruses that cross from animals to humans are able to cross back into the same or other animals.
My source for this level of info is the book The Hot Zone, I think from 20 years ago, but some facts don't change.
Why I'm getting the feeling that mother nature is responsible for engineering this virus in such a way that most of the things that we deal with everyday is twisted into a vicious irony of nightmares? If that study was accepted by the wider scientist community, then it's a horrible realisation that she just weaponised air pollution with the virus!
@goldstone Thru the ages viruses and infection have vectors from ranging from water to animals to insects and humans ....carried on and in the environment...the difference here I feel? Is that man hastened the process to spread wider and faster through pollution of our environment and we are the creators of our own destruction.
True, I think the biggest factor of why we're in this situation we're in today is the collective human mass of hubris that has been growing over centuries. That most people outside of this community thinks that humanity can control their own destiny and they are untouchable, which explains why some awful people commited such acts because they thought they can get away with it.
The virus instead exposes the fragility of our nature and how we're not so special in this blue planet.
I keep thinking about Pam P's incredible dream she posted on November 13 on this forum. Dreams can be precise in every detail, or not.
I was standing on the bank of a river that was near NYC. I was on my way there for some reason. On the opposite bank, there were two large stone dragons that resembled Asian dragons crouching near the ground. As the bus I was on passed the dragons woke up, and went into the water and headed towards the city, and as they swam it started snowing blood. That’s when I woke up. I’m interpreting it as there will be some sort of attack on NYC or the northeast that will have an Asian country behind it.”(PamP). Posted on 11/13/19 on this website Forum post #16748 (see link). https://www.jeannemayell.com/community/postid/16748/
Details:
She said she was standing on the bank of a river, but then said she was on a bus passing the dragons. - Is this about the transmission? Did the virus become activated in NYC by bus travelers to the city? Also did it really begin in November?
Her dream was in November but she said that as the dragons (Chinese virus) swam towards the city, it started snowing blood. This snowing aspect could possibly mean that the virus began hitting with the snow in the City. Authorities said it started rising fast in March which is the end of winter. So is this saying that people were dying and sickened in December and January in the city?
Also the snow-- could the virus have been transmitted via air pollution that comes down in snow? There is another study (still not peer reviewed) that the virus can be transmitted via particulates in the air which is air pollution.
I'm being unscientific here, just musing, so please see this post as a musing, not fact based.
Well, there's a reason why the bus appear in the dream. Tour buses are very popular in Asian culture, due to the cheap fares that they offer. It got to the point it became a tradition to travel long distence via by buses, where my friend's aunt have been pushing her to come along for the journey, event though they both have enough money to travel via by plane or other comfortable means of travel.
How do I know this? Well, my background is from South East Asia and I live close by with the community here. Although, me getting along with them is another story, as we have... differnce of opinion when it comes to political and social viewpoints.
I wouldn't be surprised if the virus was spread out via by tourists at that time and it's East Asian origin. I'm not going to say it's from China specifically, as there's many other cultures in that region that revered Dragons as divine beings if we're talking about the virus starting early. Still China's action did not help matters on the other hand.
I'm trying to not think the worst of people, against my better judgement at times.
Come to think of it... I had a really nasty case of cold or flu around November at the time. For some reason, I got it three times in a row within that month, where it became more serious to the point that it triggered my asthma attack with full force that I haven't felt since I was 12 and I think I've cough up some blood that is mixed with the phlgem at one point.
Posted by @goldstone:
Come to think of it... I had a really nasty case of cold or flu around November at the time. For some reason, I got it three times in a row within that month, where it became more serious to the point that it triggered my asthma attack with full force that I haven't felt since I was 12 and I think I've cough up some blood that is mixed with the phlegm at one point.
Since early December, my husband has been sick, in varying degrees, almost identical to what you described. He's been through 3 rounds of Doxycyline, and a steroid twice. I was quite sick in early December with similar symptoms. I improved with rest and Z-pack, but the fatigue lingered. But ever since my husband's first bout of that mysterious bug in early Dec, he's had a dry cough that has lingered, and more fatigue than usual. In January, that mysterious bug knocked him out again.
Our last bug, which occurred in late February, was the flu (Influenza A). Hubby had a bad bout, with a high fever and early pneumonia. I believe his immune system was taxed from being sick since early December, so he caught the flu (even though he got the shot), and passed it to me. (I never got the flu shot.)
The other thing that struck me: the number of people I have encountered here in Northern Virginia since early December who spoke about some crazy bug they couldn't seem to get rid of -- very fatigued, coughing, etc. Even my doctor’s nurse said that in December, they encountered a number of patients with a similar mysterious bug. In some cases the bug quickly developed into pneumonia. So what if we all had Covid-19 back then, but perhaps a less virulent strain (i.e., it didn’t kill you)?
Question for someone with knowledge.
There is currently concern that antibodies might not protect you from a re-infection of this particular virus. They just don’t know yet. IF antibodies don’t help keep you from re-infection, would a vaccination then also not work?
It would end up being similar to Influenza - many strains, constantly mutating and constantly circulating. So any vaccination for CV will probably end up being similar to flu shots, i.e., annual.
Similarly to Flu, scientists would be required to re-formulate yearly, and to make their best guess. As we know from flu shots, mostly they guess correctly, but sometimes they get it very wrong and people get very sick even though they got the shot. It will depend on how fast this particular CV mutates.
So to answer more directly: vaccines will work, but probably not 100%, not for everyone, and will not be long lasting enough. That being said, some protection is better than none. It's possible that as with Flu, you might get the shot and still get sick, but maybe it won't kill you because you have partial protection.
Lastly, vaccines are not made up of antibodies, they can be live, attenuated, or dead virus.
Well, there's a reason why the bus appear in the dream. Tour buses are very popular in Asian culture, due to the cheap fares that they offer. It got to the point it became a tradition to travel long distence via by buses, where my friend's aunt have been pushing her to come along for the journey, event though they both have enough money to travel via by plane or other comfortable means of travel.
That is true. Anyone "in the know" can tell you that the cheapest way up and down the East Coast is the "Chinatown" bus system which links all the major cities between Boston and Washington D.C. (and probably beyond, but I've never tried it).
I'd also say that the bus is the metaphor for all of our fates being linked together. Like it or not, we're all on a metaphorical bus to a destination, and the actions of each individual (social distancing, face mask wearing, opening/closing, etc.) affect everyone on the "bus" so to speak.
We're all going somewhere but the "where" is still not entirely clear. How we get and when we get there is also still being determined, and it really is a group thing this time.
"Neurological issues including dementia like behavior and strokes are now associated with the disease."
Just read about this strange correlation:
"Healthy people in their 30s and 40s, barely sick with COVID-19, are dying from strokes | The Seattle Times
Clots that form on vessel walls fly upward so one that started in the calves might migrate to the lungs, causing a blockage called a pulmonary embolism that arrests breathing — a known cause of death in COVID-19 patients. Clots in or near the heart might lead to a heart attack, another common cause of death. Anything above that would likely go to the brain, leading to a stroke.'
If anyone is in their 30's or 40's and experiencing mild COVID-19 symptoms and signs of a stroke don't delay getting help!
What a sad and very bizarre correlation in young people!
@laura-f Actually Coronavirus is in the common cold family and there is no vaccine for common cold because it mutates to fast. I read somewhere that the virus causes Covid-19 has mutated about 30 times when it reached United States. There is not enough time to develop an effective vaccine against it. We as a society need to practice better hygiene habits and become more diligent. In Japan, South Korea, and Singapore, the major public transit systems are super clean. And there is a reason people take off their shoes upon entering the house.
I remember during the my children's first daycare/school years that my children were sick and had to stay home all the time, to the point that we wondered why we were paying for the daycare. However, that how our children strengthened their immune system against colds. It will probably like that for us with Coronavirus.
I believe Covid-19 is here to stay, pretty much the way common cold got around humans 200 years ago. Hopefully we will develop effective treatments for it or our body's immune system learns not to overreact eventually.
So - I'm extremely conflicted right now. My gut says sheltering in place is the right thing right now, and I'm lucky enough to be in a field where I can continue my work from home for now, so I recognize how that plays into my feelings on the matter. As it stands though, I also understand the mental state of many -- how frustrating it can be for someone out of work to be told they can't, to have unemployment systems crashing under the weight of applicants, etc.
My conflict ends with those who say "it's just a flu." -- I have no patience for those people. It's a flu we understand very little about, that we keep learning of more complications from it (a beautiful five year old girl in Michigan with no pre-existing conditions who died from complications of COVID-19, learning that it's causing strokes in otherwise healthy people, etc.) -- and while people who are immunocompromised can get it and exhibit few symptoms, people who are NOT immunocompromised can get just as sick as the ones we're trying to protect.
We know too little about this thing, and all this talk about opening -- some states quickly, some states slowly, seems way too premature.
Who's been meditating on this recently? Every time I try my brain loops back to today and won't let me move further.
It's interesting that Spirit is bringing that 'bus' into our vision/dream experience so much, lols. I too had a dream that I was in a place near a schoolyard full of children and they were all being directed to get on a large red bus.... as they all happily and boisterously ran to it, there was a neon-glowing little skeleton walking amongst them..... Ugh. Didn't like that dream.
This was around the time that the virus was really taking hold last month.... a dear friend of mine had similar 'bus' visions ....
"......Like it or not, we're all on a metaphorical bus to a destination ...."