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What does our ability to feel the future tell us about reality?

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@bluebelle 

 

Beautifully expressed. Thank you for the prayer.



   
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@bluebelle 

My friend, I am so glad you were able to post this incredible message for us today.  It is spirit driven and sprinkles with Bluebelle wisdom.

Thank you.



   
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I am tagging @vestralux because if she happens to see this thread, I believe she will have much wisdom to share.



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@Bluebelle, Oh so wonderful, you. 

"I think the future is not a year or 53 years away, but rather the future is two blocks over and three blocks down.  If I stood atop my house (or meditated), I could see it."  -- Bluebelle wisdom

-- I just so love this. It made me laugh out loud, and you have expressed this concept so sweetly. 



   
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@jeanne-mayell, thank you for creating this thread.  I love it and what everyone has shared here.  So much heart and intuitive wisdom are reflected in these pages. 

I’ve always believed that we can change the course of history through our collective thought and prayer.  I still do.  Whenever I think upon these questions, I often see our collective selves as this big tree, rooted into the earth, forever striving to reach the heavens.  We have our choice of branches, or paths, on which to travel, and I believe our ability to see the future reflects the possible life experiences and outcomes of those paths that we have chosen to take.  And yet, what do we make of those huge, “seemingly” unavoidable events that are predicted decades before they happen?    It’s tempting to try and approach this through our intellect – if we only understood it, then everything would fall into place.  I’ve tried, but feel addle brained the more I ponder these questions.  It only adds to my confusion.  Perhaps I should let the questions just be. 

So much of this remains a mystery to me.  Maybe it’s as it should be.  In my advancing years, I’m finally okay with that.  Rainer Maria Rilke expresses it beautifully in Letters to a Young Poet:

“Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves, like locked rooms and like books that are now written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer.”

Living the questions requires faith, an understanding that even though we may see a piece of the future that may, or may not, come to pass, it’s not the end of the story.  And for me, there is a certain comfort in sharing the weight of these life questions with like-minded souls.  Through our collective sharing, we participate in creating something much larger than ourselves.  Life is like this magnificent, ever-changing tapestry – the variety of colors, distinct patterns, and imperfections of the collective continually adds to the richness and beauty of that tapestry.  It feels sacred to me, and I feel blessed to be part of this co-creation. 



   
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I’d like to add a bit more to my above post.  I know that many of us are troubled with so much of what we see happening around us.  I’ve been feeling that way lately.  Sometimes it feels too overwhelming to bear.  Yet in my quieter and more present moments, I am hopeful and know in my heart that the reality we see is not the end of the story.  My hope comes from small changes I see around me.  I have a personal story to share that reflects that.

A close family member is going through a mindset change, something I would not have anticipated in a million years.   Ever since childhood I have believed that I was dropped into my family from another planet – I know many of you can relate! – and nothing demonstrates it better than how she and I have interacted over the decades.  She’s pretty much seen me as a space cadet, and I’ve seen her as set in her ways, ultra-conservative, and unbending.  We love one another, but are polar opposites in more ways than I can count.  (She’s a watcher of Fox News, which also says a lot to me.)  Since we’re both in our senior years, I never anticipated that she would be open to allowing anything new into her orbit.  Recently, however, she’s brought up cosmic and collective consciousness, and how that’s become a revelation to her.  She discovered a book written by a fairly orthodox medical doctor who addresses how we are each part of a greater whole, interconnected with everything and everyone on the planet.  She has been saying things to me like “do you know that we’re all one?  That we’re like these little specks of light, all connected together?   That we may have lived before, in a past life?  Is this the kind of thing that you all discuss on Jeanne’s website?”   These have all been telephone conversations, so she’s never seen the gob-smacked look on my face as she’s shared her new observations.  She’s becoming more curious and open.  I do believe this openness may come from some personal healing she’s recently experienced, making her less guarded and more forgiving of herself and others.   There’s a lot of woundedness out there, myself included.  My experience with her has reminded me, once again, that change begins with each of us.  Facing our shadows and how we conduct ourselves in our lives, can change us in some significant ways.  I believe these personal changes and healings have a ripple effect, directly affecting everything in our collective consciousness. 

Therein lies my faith and hope for the future.

 

@jeanne-mayell



   
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@deetoo 

What an amazing journey your family member is currently on.  May more doors be open for her to walk through.

Letters to a Young Poet, how beautiful.  Thank you for sharing.

I also love this thought from you:

Posted by: @deetoo

 

Life is like this magnificent, ever-changing tapestry – the variety of colors, distinct patterns, and imperfections of the collective continually adds to the richness and beauty of that tapestry.  It feels sacred to me, and I feel blessed to be part of this co-creation. 

 



   
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I definitely have to think about this topic much more, it is interesting. 

I know I've noted before that I'm a fan of the string theory of time, and time travel, like in Quantum Leap. Time is a measurement, not an object, just like an inch or cm.  If time is linear, who is to say that it is in a straight line. Aren't all geometric forms made up of lines? Circles, squares, parabolas, etc. Can't lines bend and swirl, just like string in a ball or a pile on the floor where it overlaps? If you pull on the ends, it becomes straight, but can have so many forms when tension is not present. 

I, too, like (and have always liked) stories that involve time travel.  Most do use the premise that if something in the past is changed, then the future of that specific past will also change. Such was the case in the up thread mention of the tv show Timeless. The same holds true for Back to the Future series. In each case something, sometimes something minor, changes in the past, and the future is changed. Sometimes they were small changes, sometimes large. What would the world be like if we all lived today, thinking that the minor things we do can have great impact on the future? 

When we dream, project in meditation, or astral travel, where is our time reference? It's often not obvious-at least for me. Sometimes these experiences can seem more 'real' than our waking reality. Who is to say they aren't real? If we see the future, and make changes in the "here and now", thus changing the future (say avoiding something negative), what we saw was accurate, and we chose to make changes, so the outcome would also change. That is a hit, even tho to others, that would be a missed prediction. Just because they didn't see the future that managed to change, doesn't negate what we saw or the effect of the changes made. It's the old "if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound if no one is there to hear it?" We know that there are DNA changes from trauma, so why is it so hard to grasp that we can sometimes do something about it proactively prior to the actual occurrence? 

I also believe that some things, even when seen in advance, cannot be changed. We are all of differing levels of spiritual evolution. Those who are more receptive and/or advanced, will be aghast at some things that 'didn't have to happen', especially those we have foreseen. Conversely, some of these same tragedies we could see coming (even without intuition-just noting the writing on the wall), others who haven't learned the same lessons already won't see them coming even if it were spelled out to them in the most basic terms. They have to go through the event to learn. This is why, even though some will see events they wish to prevent, they will fail at altering the course. Just because some are more advanced and see what's coming doesn't always equate with knowing the why of what is going to transpire. It is easy for a high school senior to solve problems given to elementary school students, but how can one expect an elementary school student to have the knowledge and experience of someone in high school or college? 

As @deetoo notes about tapestry, it's not just one string, thread, yarn, or fiber that makes up a tapestry. The colors and patterns can be quite intricate, and every thread has its place. Every fiber is needed. As a knitter and crocheter, for those who don't practice the craft, it can amaze people that a single continuous yarn can be coerced into forming clothing, pillows and blankets. Still more impressive that multiple yarns likewise can be brought together in the same way to produce patterns, or pictures, in the woven fabric. This is like our varied lives and cultures all melding into this world, forming our past, present and future-collectively known as time. 



   
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@deetoo

As I read your post I got the image of a kaleidoscope. All of our colorful selves blending together but still individually beautiful. 



   
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When I think about @seaholy's original vision of children screaming and buildings falling around them, which was the vision that caused me to start this thread, I realize something else about these visions -- I think about the role of empathy and perhaps healing in receiving these visions. Seaholy told me that part of the vision was that the crying children were on top of the rubble screaming for parents who were beneath the rubble. That is more graphic than I ever saw in the news. And I believe that when we truly feel others' suffering, we help to alleviate it by taking some of it into ourselves. Not only did Seaholy herself tap some of that suffering, but by sharing it with us, we did too. 

People have asked me, what is the good of seeing the future if we can't do anything about it?  Well, that's one bit of good, I feel, that comes from tapping into someone as she did. 

Given how time works, I'm not even sure that it was actually the future.  It's possible she was just tapping into that event across another dimension and therefore was helping those children in their time.  

Also in some cases, we do get visions that we can do something about. So many of the visions, taken as a group, have helped me prepare for climate change, to help with political advocacy, and with calming down about short term negative events, when I see a longer term positive outcome. 



   
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