A week before the big earthquake, @seaholly had an upsetting vision that a week later came true. She had heard children screaming and saw buildings falling down around them. She said the children could not reach their parents who were beneath the rubble. Also a week before it happened, @lovendures felt an incredible sadness come over her.
We feel the future here with varying levels of specificity, some are especially clear. Seaholy's was just so painful to read, and no one can think about it without realizing what it was like for these children. I wonder so many things when I read a vision like hers.
What does it mean about our reality? I'd like to explore this. I have so many thoughts, visions, that well up when I pose that question.
@seaholly really heard and saw these children reacting to this catastrophe. We forget how remarkable it is that she saw such specificity in advance. @Lovendures also felt the sadness a week earlier.
@baba picks up events before they happen every time she meditates.
I keep asking myself, what does it mean about reality that the event could be seen and heard in advance? Because it has implications for the nature of reality. Of death, and the consciousness of those who have passed showing up, no matter how far back they were here. And those who are in the future showing up now.
We see this miracle every day on this site, but every once in a while, I have to ask what it means about the world I think I live in. Ha ha. I love that question.
I have learned to pay attention to what @Seaholly says and notices.
I think Jeanne perhaps we are rediscovering what was once normal in ancient culture but lost to many of us over the centuries and millennia. I think of all the Old and New Testament passages which discuss dreams and visions, angel visitations and so forth. Many native indigenous cultures continue to value messages given in dreams and waking visions.
It is part of us.
We have a lot to rediscover and a lot to discover for the first time.
@lovendures The wonder of feeling the future begs the question, "What IS reality?"
Dean Radin from the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) ran an experiment after 9/11 that showed people are unconsciously picking up big future events before they happen. At the time, the Institute had an ongoing experiment on people's ability to telepathically detect the signals or thoughts coming from a partner in another room.
That experiment in general has shown that, yes, people can to a certain extent pick up the thoughts of a friend who is not with them in the room.
But he wanted to see if people were unconsciously picking up events in the future as well.
In the experiment, he had one person in a darkened room with meditative music going on. Their friend was in another room being shown a randomly selected image to focus on, like a cow, or tree, or landscape, or something violent like a car crash.
The person who was the receiver, would then speak a stream of consciousness into a recorder, and they'd later check to see if that reciever person was picking up the image shown to their partner in the other room. Got it?
Well Dean Radin decided after 9/11 to go back over the tapes of people who'd got it wrong, tapes of people who had NOT been able to telepathically pick up what their partner was seeing. And sure enough, several of those who FAILED to pick up their partner's thoughts, were seeing planes crashing into buildings or other scenes of devastation that resembled 9/11.
So, experiment showed that we are affected by events that are happening in the present and future. If those events are extreme, like 9/11, we might have trouble concentrating on less important events.
Hey, does anyone here who has success reading the future or detecting others' feelings have trouble paying attention?
The Global Consciousness Project, started at Princeton School of Engineering in the 1990's attempts to measure waves of energy cast by unusual extreme events that cause humans around the world to be thinking the same thing at once -- like 9/11, the death of Princess Diana, and other world events. They found that indeed computers show a disruption in their processes when a big event happens. If computers feel the disruption, then it follows that people do as well, both consciously and unconscioiusly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnvJfkI5NVc
UP until recently, you could log on and see the data coming in. They have two decades of data.
I could not find it just now, so I suspect they aren't running those computers any more. But their findings remain and are impressive. And anyway, I know they are correct.
Skeptics, of course, do their best to bash anything psychic, but there will always be fundamentalists whose closed minds make it their life mission to bash this stuff. I pay zero attention to them and brush them off like knats. They tend to have less intellilgence, and doubt the data analsysis but are fine with the exact same data analysis procedures the pharmaceutical industry uses to determine whether a drug works. So pay them no mind. Go with what you sense and know.
The Global Consciousness project is the only largescale objective evidence of a Global Mind. But I don't need evidence. I experience the Global Mind everyday. Just thought someone here might be interested in learning about it.
Want to tag a few inquiring minds to see this discussion and perhaps give their thoughts. @cc21 @raincloud @seeker4 @tonyaw @Clara @seaholly @thehappymedium @bluebelle @deetoo @tgraf66 @marigold @lenor @arman @lizzi @baba @Andrew
Pay no mind if I missed tagging you. Everyone in this community is important to this discussion.
This is so fascinating. Here is a go at some first thoughts.
I wonder if reading the future is possible because the future is already unfolding in the present. Because actions in the past - far back or recent – have set up a future. And maybe the closer we are to whatever future we are reading the more precise the vision/perceiving/knowing.
But have also been reading The Order of Time by physicist Carlo Rovelli, the premise of which is that we still don’t know how time actually works, that it is not linear, that time:
“is like holding a snowflake in your hands: gradually as you study it, it melts between your fingers and vanishes. We conventionally think of time as something simple and fundamental that flows uniformly, independently from everything else, from the past to the future, measured by clocks and watches. In the course of time, the events of the universe succeed each other in an orderly way: pasts, presents, futures. The past is fixed, the future open...and yet all of this has turned out to be false.”
That time as we know it is basically socially and culturally constructed starting in 14th century Europe, when people’s lives started to be regulated by clocks and we had the beginning of the clock-regulated era.
Rovelli goes into many things that make my head swim, and I have not yet been able to grasp it all and make the shift to dwell in his conceptions. I guess that was how it was for the flat earthers centuries ago. I will see if I can begin to dwell with this and report back.
It is easier (for me anyway) to dwell in these conceptions in dream time or meditation rather than trying to work it out cognitively. Especially dream time where anything is possible. We can fly through the air in our bodies, meet famous people dead and alive, view the future, go to the past, perceive via metaphors and symbols.
And yes I SO have trouble paying attention! Especially to verbally delivered material – a lecture (mind wanders), directions/instructions (don’t remember detail unless I write down or draw the content). Drawing is best, especially maps which I love. I can get anywhere with a map but am totally discombobulated by trying to follow GPS voice instructions and do not have it in my car!
@marigold I love the abundance of thinking in your post.
The snowflake melting concept is probably an allusion to the double slit/superpositionexperiments in physics that showed that energy is both in wave form and in quantum (packet) form, and if you are observing light in it's wave form where an object can be everywhere at once, then the superposition of those photons falls apart. Here is a great way to understand this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1YqgPAtzho
@jd1960 Yeah, that YouTube I posted is 20 years old, and quantum physics is a hundred years old, but most people still have trouble believing that reality is not linear and we can see, feel, hear, even smell objects and people's minds across space and time. Small children experience it and accept it, though.