why do Americans have an issue with people burning their flag? Or a bible even? Why is the White House a thing?
These are all social constructs and a convenient way of controlling people by hijacking their identities.
Nature knows nothing about lines on a map or the colours on a flag, but we have built these imaginary things as convenient way of controlling people and dividing resources.
These social constructs are self preservating and so almost impossible to break free from.
It will be interesting to see if people's identities are tied to the Queen or the monarchy as an institution. It will only survive as long as people keep believing in the construct.
To me it's bizarre that people sing 'God save the queen' when only 37% of people believe in a God (Eurobarometer Poll 2010), but if you don't sing this song (also another social construt), you'd be labeled as an enemy of the people and a bad person.
It's a very powerful way of getting people to support the systems and power structures that we have today.
It wasn't you that made me think that. The angels have been trying to steer me away from getting into particular patterns of behaviour and thoughts throughout the pandemic. It doesn't mean that I should be passive either, but more realising those things no longer serve me and to let them go, and realise that we are all learning through different paths. Quite rightly I may not agree with the behaviours and actions of certain powerful people, but I must learn to not let those things occupy my thoughts and and energy, especially at a time right now. In a sense, I am trying to heal this part of me. It's a work in progress.
@luminous then I wish you all the strength and love to get to where you want to be ❤️
@leona
Well, you also have to keep in mind that H&M have been intent on "cashing in" on the RF's name since Day #1 of their "escape". Remember their trademarking "Sussex Royal" before the Queen forbade it? They were hoping to make a bundle from their RF connection, something that is expressly forbidden by the Queen. And now the Oprah interview which is like punching a man with one arm tied behind his back: H&M know the RF cannot/will not fight back in that manner. While there is nothing wrong in identifying existing problems, they should have been dealt with privately with a measure of decorum and family loyalty. Unfortunately, H&M's "brand" and TV ratings mattered to them more. I have lost a great deal of respect for the three of them..
@leona, as Isabella already said you are jumping to conclusions. To lump us all in the same group as the media and say that we're vilifying a pregnant woman is offensive, at least to me. I am *very* pro-woman. However, that doesn't mean that you cannot be critical of their actions. To me it reeks of extremism and blindness if critical thinking is thrown out of the window. You should *always* be critical and examine the facts.
Fact remains that certain things should have been done differently. Fact is that things were said that were not true. Harry especially should have know better. Saying, for example, that his father is a prisoner of the firm and doesn't even know it. Charles has been railing against this since the 60s! It is a well-documented fact that he hates the situation and yet he still does his duty. Same goes with the rule of law with prince titles etc.
Going with emotions in a situation like this is never a good way to go. That is why I said it isn't good for anyone and it still isn't. Imagine being in a meeting with your entire department/school etc. at work and then railing at a colleague, with nobody asking critical questions and nobody being allowed to defend themselves. You would be allowed to go at it for two hours however. How would that go you think?
The RF is cold and relying on rule of law. I can imagine how difficult living in a family like that would be, but nobody is a winner here.
It's already blowing up in their face in Britain, because they were pitting one side against the other, and that is a crying shame. It didn't have to be this way. A communique/statement, factually listing everything that had been done to them with solutions offered would have been much better and kept them out of the wind. It would have been professional and nobody would have fodder to attack them with.
As for your other issues. Andrew is still being investigated, that is not going away. he has been sacked from royal duties and now we're all waiting when he will be charged. William's alleged affair is between him and his wife. We have nothing to do with this.
However, I am also done with this now. I wish Harry and Megan the best, just as I wish the RF the best. Let them sort it out themselves.
King Arthur would have been so disappointed in today's Royal Family.
This has been a good discussion. I've learned a lot from each of you. We can see different viewpoints, and none seem wrong. It's the three blind men and the elephant. People have different perspectives because they are seeing the situation from a different vantage point. It would be great if someone could re-read these posts and lay out the different viewpoints to help us understand this issue better.
King Arthur would have been so disappointed in today's Royal Family.
I dunno, didn't Arthur sleep with his half-sister? ?
King Arthur would have been so disappointed in today's Royal Family.
And anyway, most of today's RF are paragons of virtue compared to many of England's former monarchs--who not only slept around, but started wars, and chopped off heads of anyone who got in their way. The modern RF seeks to "serve", not so much to "rule". I think that's progress.