Yes ... that's the one ... thank you! I think it's a creepy thing to hang over a bed, but I'm not 18, I guess ;) He is attending college in a very red state, and says he's had some really interesting conversations with other poli sci majors who have very different worldviews than he does. They are able to find common ground in their conversations. I truly feel this younger generation on the cusp of picking up some of the reins will be better equipped to work together and come to consensus vs feel everything is a battle and a compromise.
Wow! What an incredibly insightful topic about Trump and the octopus/devil!!
I have been told by my guides two powerful things about Trump; he is being controlled by a Lucifer-type entity and that he won't be in office much past 2018. I have also read other psychics who have seen Trump being controlled by a very thick cord attached to a very dark and powerful entity. But no one has described this vivid octopus entity better than Jeanne or Lovendures! Wow - what powerful images - thank you both for sharing!
I think Trump is now at the karmic phase of his long life of destruction and evil deeds. We all know it won't end well for him or for his party/supporters. But we need to remember what we are all experiencing is the 'mass-consciousness' that elected Trump - he is just the source that came to open-up all what's wrong within us and the world, which will then bring about a release of all that's evil and wrong, then we will experience the cleansing of this evil. This destruction could have only been brought to us by a powerful 'devil', and Trump fit that bill! As with all cleansing, it will get worse before it gets better. The worse Trump gets, the more will be released. According to a Vedic astrologer I follow, Trump will have a complete melt-down around March 23, 2019, which is also a REALLY bad time for our country as well. According to this astrologer, unfortunately, we ain't seen nothin' yet!
Don't know very much about various types of demons so I can't really comment on whether Beelzebub is an appropriate way of seeing Trump. The octopus - yeah, I can see where people are coming from with that one but I have no idea how far you'd like to take that. Others here probably know better than I do.
This said, I think we can all tell that the USA is nearing an extremely tricky moment right now. The next three months are really going to be "make or break". One thing that comes to my mind is a quote from Churchill. From memory, so almost certainly not accurate: "The time for warnings is over. Now we're entering the time of consequences." Also, I recently came across a meme I really liked. Again from memory: "If you ever wondered what you would be doing if you lived in historical times like the Holocaust, the American Civil War or the independence of India... you are doing it now."
On the question of whether Trump is evil: yes, he is, absolutely. The amount of chaos he's caused so far is more than enough to prove the point. He doesn't know that he is evil, but that doesn't change anything. From all accounts, Hitler, Stalin and Mao didn't know they were evil.
Another thing that I feel is very important: If Trump gets out of the picture soon, whether it's resignation or impeachment or in any other way, it is definitely not over. Too often I've come across people saying that Pence is a much easier problem than Trump. That was almost certainly true two years ago. But today, Pence has had two years of schooling in Trump's White House. Plus all his previous experience in politics, that may not be a very impressive career, but it wasn't nothing, either.
I hope those thoughts are somewhat useful.
Maria, I have often wondered what I would have done during different times of history. The first time I actually felt like I was living a historical moment was when Regan was shot. The greatest moment was on 9-11. The next was when Obama was elected president. With Trump's presidency however, it seems different. I believe it is because we are fighting for so very much. For our country and for the world. We understand the stakes are SO very high. It is our responsibility to make a positive impact during this age.
December 2018"This past week in a vision I keep seeing a creepy image of Trump. I see him from the waist up, his body stiff, like he's in a trance. He has many arms, like an octopus, that are moving rapidly, as if he is conducting an orchestra. The image looks like a demon like to me. I've seen this image somewhere in Judeo-Christian mythology. But I'm not well versed in this field. Still the image persists and the name Beelzebub keeps repeating."
Yesterday, I reconnected to this thread and retold an intuitive experience that Jeanne had in December of last year of hearing the name Beezlebub.
Previously, she and others had also seen, heard or felt the dark psychic nature of Trumps corrupted presidency. And of course, many of those intuitions have dominated our discussions as well as our predictions and unfortunately almost taken over many of our own lighter emotions since his election.
My feelings in December were my sharing of a long Post-Predictions group reading of an incubus like attachment feeding off Trump and altering and influencing his presidency but his unhealthy relationships, and dark dealings with underworld corruption and dark mobey.
The incubus like attachment was draining his heart (the heart is the center of the spirit and soul to me symbolically and controlling his very being mind-body-spirit.
Last night we had the first Democratic Debate and since we don't have/have never had cable tv and it wasn't televised on broadcast networks, i had to Google the news after reading group comments on Bernie, Warren and Pete.
But what no one mentioned was underdog Marianne Williamson whose commenton Trump's dark psychic force was raging on Twitter.
So, after reading various news souces I googled (incognito version) "psychics predictions on Trump's dark psychic force.
And after 5 references to news sources, Jeannes projections recap by month came in at #6 and "7.
Beezlebub and octopi and psychic attachment explain so very much. And one thing for Marianne, she's not afraid to go there. And neither is Jeanne or for thst matter, many of us!
I think the octopus thing is a Jungian-synchronous archetype. It dates to 1928, when Lovecraft created the character Cthulhu. From Wiki: Lovecraft depicts Cthulhu as a gigantic entity worshipped by cultists. Cthulhu's appearance is described as looking like an octopus, a dragon, and a caricature of human form...the character ... a malevolent entity, hibernating within ... an underwater city ... The imprisoned Cthulhu is apparently the source of constant anxiety for mankind at a subconscious level, and also the subject of worship by a number of human religions ...
(Who does THAT sound like?)
One of my friends believes he could be the reincarnation of Benito Mussolini.
He also shares the same birth cards as King Henry the VIII (The Emperor and Death), a self-indulged narcissist who wrecked his country up with religous turmoil and had so many people killed just so that he could marry his second wife Anne Boylen. The man ended up having 6 wives, 2 of whom he had executed by beheading.
Perhaps he is the reincarnation of both King Henry and Mussolini?
Also when I do Tarot readings for Trump I often pick 'The Devil' too.
A few times when I did a tarot reading for Donald Trump I picked The Devil.
When I look at this card I see the flames of hate that Trump is spreading from the right to the left, just like how The Devil does so by spreading lies and discord. The naked man and woman are meant to be Adam and Eve, but I see Adam as a representation of the people under Trump's spell (the Republicans, white people, and men), and Eve as a representation of those opposed to Trump's evil (the Democrats, people of color, and women). Notice how The Devil (Trump) encourages the man to hate the woman by burning him with a torch?
And yet they are both chained to The Devil. That is symbolic of the fact that we are all being played like puppets by Trump.
It's very heartbreaking to me. :(
I recently saw a reference from a medium who said she got that Rumpus was the reincarnation of Caligula. There are many similarities in waste, narcissism, etc. What was eerie was that Caligula was married to someone named Milonia.
I don’t comment much here but I needed to retell my experience of when Trump was elected . I live in Australia and we already had a horrible conservative government like Trumps under the then leader Tony Abbott so to me there was nothing shocking about trump as his style of alt right leadership was already happening in my country . During Bernie Sanders campaign I really had this sense of great light and hope around him that perhaps the world could move humanity away from the encroaching darkness . This was summed up in a meme where birds flocked around him counteracting the bird attacking trump I saw this as a sign . The day of the election and I was at work checking the results On the internet at a shop I worked in . I was so shocked at what I saw happening. I was the only woman among some really misogynistic men in this workplace and they all supported trump . Even one of my oldest friends came in to the shop and quite strangely he too told me I was being irrational and Trump was fine. It was like I’d entered some nightmare. Normally I couldn’t wait to leave the shop but that night I stayed until everyone left and started hysterically crying behind the counter. A really extreme visceral reaction to something that was not unexpected. I had this feeling that Pluto was rising from the underworld , the pit was opening . At the time Pluto was exact conjunct my sun and I felt this darkness very close . I felt a great time of darkness for humanity that was so overwhelming I started shaking. I don’t doubt he is connected to something evil. I feel he is an instrument and the octopus is the beast controlling him and others of the elite . After seeing this post I needed to share this experience with others I hope will understand ?