This past week in a vision I keep seeing a creepy image of Trump. I see him from the waist up, his body stiff, like he's in a trance. He has many arms, like an octopus, that are moving rapidly, as if he is conducting an orchestra. The image looks like a demon to me. I've seen this image somewhere in Judeo-Christian mythology. But I am not familiar with it. Still image persists and the name Beelzebub keeps repeating.
I knew that Beelzebub was some form of the devil. So I looked it up. Beelzebub was one of the many forms of the devil in Christian mythology. He represented the sin of envy, among other things. He was also called, the Lord of the Flies.
If anyone has some thoughts about Trump as Beelzebub, please post.
I am not saying Trump is the devil. I am saying that he channels a form of darkness when he needs to channel in order to save himself, just as others channel saints and angels.
I'm not religious. But these characters exist in our collective conscience or perhaps a guide is sending them to me. So they come to me to help me understand.
Trump goes into autopilot when he needs to get something done. He goes into an intuitive trance. He trusts his intuition to get him what he wants -- power, money, and right now, protection from public humiliation and prosecution.
The demons of hell are chasing him down, nipping at his heels. He knows he's committed crimes, but he feels he's entitled to enrich himself and use his power any way he wants.
He's climbed to the highest level of power in the global political world and now they are coming after him.
Jeanne, yes yes yes!
Beeelzebub as a noun is the supreme personification of evil often represented as the ruler of hell.
Vampire and beelzebub are semantically related. In some cases you can use "Vampire" instead of as the noun Beezlebub
During our April 29, 2018 "Predictions Group:
I wrote:
"I ended up with all intense negative visions. And it was all Trump and his family. I see symbolically (keep that in mind as you read this) and I've always seen Don Jr. as a 'vampire" and his love of "captured/farmed" exotic wild animals (some even on the endangered list) as obvious examples of his dark, inherited energies, even blood lust.
But during class, I saw Trump Sr. with an "incubus" on him which then explained his own preying on others to empower his own continually drained energies.
I saw the obvious unatural tendencies for young beautiful women, including inappropriate expressive descriptions of his own daughter whovi saw as a visual mirror of the incubus.
Ivanka mirrors his protections but is still separate from him and like a wife thought she could help corral his tendencies, temper, and views but alas, all it's done is create mental and physical health problems in her own life and put her own problematic lineage husband further under Trumps spell casting with Jared's own need for power and money, not to mention his own lineage and his father.
I am NOT into vampire mythology. Haven't even read Anne Rice or watched any Twilight movies or the books.
So, it was intense with visions of Trump with archetypal vampire/victim as a spell casting/spell caster. I saw him also as the Wizard of Oz along with his Yellow Brick Road (gold bars), the verdant green (money) fields with the poppies (altered stages) which connected to so many things, drugs of course, addictions in himself (sex, varying deviancies) and so on.
I have pages and pages of writing this from after class of was over. I can barely read them but still feel them.
Dark money, dark underworld, dark misuse of women and young girls, casino money laundering thtough ex wife Ivanna.
I'd felt energy sick all day and debated about attending the video class and then had connection problems over and over and missed big chunks on and off as it was going on.
I've explored and worked with the concepts of sacred contracts, the idea of 12 archetypes we each carry, and discussed shadows and shadow work on this site.
So, it's lovely having others hear talking about concepts I can not only relate to but finding space to explore visions I'm not always comfortable talking about.
I was a crazy woman the summer before the election. I kept telling my family I thought Trump would win and they either thought I was nuts or used facts and figures to calm me down. Election night was my worst dreams coming true. I kept hoping I was dreaming then worked so hard getting my shadow anger verging on hate out in order to search for deeper meanings and reasons.
I can see them now but I still can get pulled into shadow energies with each new day of news. So much work to do yet for all of us, but here we can not only see the light but share it inside and out and each day I feel ever more empowerment from that!
I am blessed to be able to see, be, and share the light and to use the energies of Mother Earth/Father Sun as well as sacred connections from so many belief systems so it's always unnerving to have visions filled with the dark energies of others , sad they are easier to see than the light and we have to put up such walls of energetic protection to keep them from latching on to us, too!"
(End of my quoting from my April post.)
It was obviously a very long, intense post. Like you may feel now, i knew I had to share it last April even if it made no sense ir was too scary or weird in this forum.
But now i can see that we have truly joined energies and can now protect and defend in unity.
We need Vestralux back with her insights and Bluebelle with her light.
Others (you know who you are) join us in this holding of space now to encircle us with goodness and light as we tackle this energy of discussion.
If you feel the calling and strength, join in this difficult discussion and unite your gifts and higher angelic future selves for these times ahead.
Yes. Perhaps there are some cross cultural references here. Beelzebub is the devil's right hand man; his Supreme General. ( First referenced in Paradise Lost) Look at Mattis stepping down here - Trump is taking the role of favored General of Darkness. Beelzebub is smarter than Trump by a large margin, but I think the General aspect of the character is what you are inviting here.
The many armed demon may be a reference to Kali, Hindu Goddess/demon. Kali is a formidable Goddess - bad ass warrior, not to put too fine a point on it. Keeper of Time and Death, the ultimate Mama Bear defending her cubs. She has many arms, and beheads her enemies and drinks their blood. Those who see her as a Goddess say she devours the Ego to protect what is true. We are said to be living in the Kali Yuga, which is the era of final darkness before the golden age is reached.
When you're seeing Trump as this, it may be you are seeing Kali imposed over him - devouring his over sized ego.
I saw Beezlebub as an incubus riding/sucking vampire blood on Trump's back creates an 8 appendaged image...the octopi.
Symbolic representation of intertwined, interdependent codependent evil power and control.
More political/control and power/supreme control for me as in Putin and Trump.
Thanx Luminata, every suggestion even when not what one may see, can still add to and recreate the whole.
Makes us each think, clarify and remember visions as they first ocurred.
Everyone, keep your thoughts, energy, light coming in.
Bohemian Rhapsody by Queens is where I first heard of this word
Freddie Mercury wrote “Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me”. I understand Beelzebub better in the context of the song now, thank you! :D.
What I find interesting is that so many people have felt that no matter how bad Trump is, he is not actually a devil or evil. It is difficult for me to personally label him as such due to the many times Obama was labeled as satan and the Anti-Christ by the same people who now support Trump. I don't like to label anyone in that way as I tend to hope that everyone can be redeemed. But one has to WANT to redeem themselves, right?
I do believe Trump has chosen to act in an evil manner, repeatedly and throughout his life. Beelzebub is an apt name . It fits. Not labeling someone as Beelzebub doesn't make them any less so. In the words of Queen, perhaps "Beelzebub has a devil put aside" ...for Trump.
Ok, in reading up on the "octopus" just now, I found out it is also called a "devil fish". Perhaps you saw him resemble an octopus because it was emphasizing the devil/Beelzebub aspect of Trump. ( Oh, and of course an octopus is a bottom dweller too.)
I had an old friend over for dinner tonight who told me that her marine biologist son who studies dangerous fish has been studying the most dangerous animal on earth. So what is the most dangerous animal on earth, I asked? It's a kind of octopus, she said.
Actually, I suspect that the most deadly animal on earth is man. Only man creates weapons of mass destruction, methods of torture, and has killed more species of animals either deliberately or by his wanton disregard for life. Most animals kill for food or in self defense. Man alone kills for pleasure, power, money, or sport.
But our evil, treacherous, inhumanity aside, there is a Blue-Ringed Octopus that lives in the Great Barrier Reef, and waters around the Phillipines and the Indian Ocean that has a hugely venomous poison for which there is no known antidote.
https://www.barrierreefaustralia.com/info/reef-dangers/blue-ringed-octopus/
Well, I do believe there is evil in the world and that there is an evil that exists outside our own inner lightness and darkness. Perhaps this belief has its roots in my progressive Christian upbringing, but I see confirmation of that in my expanded consciousness, too. To me, there are individuals who cause death and suffering of innocents without a qualm. There are those who actually enjoy being predators. These are the faces of evil.
When Trump was elected, part of the overwhelming darkness I saw was a foreknowledge that people would suffer and die because of him. Two years later, I am not so afraid. Even in the midst of all the terrible things happening because of Trump, I also know that the power of love and light is much stronger. We are going to be okay. In spreading the light, we need to spread the truth. We need to speak up. “Silence like a cancer grows...” Remember we are not alone. There are higher powers of light here, too.
This thread has raised the little hairs on the back of my neck. My son - a freshman political science/Spanish double major - bought this poster of Trump as an octopus in his room.