I also think the dried leaves with the null symbol refer to the Mueller report. In ancient times, papers were sometimes referred to as leaves.
The dead leaves may refer to the end of an era. Yes, an era that is "leaving." The GOP is now getting close to a nose dive-type descent and it's taking our democracy with it, for now anyway.
The Mueller Report, now reduced to a sham by the fact that Mitch McConnell has allowed the president to control his own investigation, represents the decline of our federal justice system. The Zero means null. The Mueller Report was what we had in our federal system to hold the president accountable.
My November 4, 2016 vision of Hades kidnapping and raping Percephone (the innocent daughter of Demeter) and thus causing the winter, is nearly complete now. Ironically, we are on the verge of spring, but this dream, and events, tell me we are on the verge of winter. Spring will come, just not now.
If my initial visions are correct, our federal government is going to descend for a while into the dark. Donald Trump channels the anti-Christ. He channels Hades, the dark god who uses women, yes, Baba, by putting your hand on his thigh while he poops out the undigested disgusting material of his dark and dirty mind.
These dreams are profound. The decayed leaves and that null symbol loom large for me.
We are in the final throes of an old archaic system that is dying. And yes, the earlier dreams in this topic of Putin and Trump converged are also relevant. Putin is the ultimate dark force who has made Trump his puppet and infiltrated our democracy.
This whole thread fits together, even though the dreams go back to September. I hope people will keep it going. I am fascinated by what you are getting.
After I posted last night, I realized that dead leaves are just leaves, not the whole tree. They die every fall as part of a natural cycle.
I kept seeing the great oak tree itself still standing, and wondered what it represents. Is it the USA? The democracy?
Or is it something bigger -- the collective spirit of our people that continues to grow and thrive even while justice (the Mueller Report) is sidelined by a corruption that has spread like a disease.
One question is how long will the winter last and when will we see spring again? I have had my own visions about this, and I've posted them repeatedly. I keep feeling that our people need for things to be bad enough for them to throw off these parasites.
When Barr's sham Mueller report coverup summary came out, I was stunned to see some of the mainstream newspapers and even NPR capitulating to Barr's view that the president had been exonerated. We are not out of the dark yet when Jeff Bezos has allowed opinion pieces in his paper (Washington Post) at such a critical time that support the Barr report. Sorry, I am co-opting this thread and need to take this subject up in a separate topic.
I am optimistic about the outcome of all of this. Timing however remains in play.
I have been thinking about Starpaths dream about the tree and leaves. I feel like the tree is Mueller and the leaves are the 300+ pages. Brown because they are complete?
As I was trying to figure out the zero or O symbol I came accross this link about symbols:
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Oddly it has a picture of an oak tree and discusses this zero or O and hortizontal lines. I found it interesting and wanted to post for the group.
Hopefully the link works. Hope everyone is doing well today!
Tiger & Owl, links don't work when people are new. It's part of the software that comes with the forum. Protects against spam, even though it's obvious you are wonderful and very welcome here. Please email me the link and I will post it.
Alright wise tribe, I have another question...hoping this is the correct space to post it.
I'm reading a lot about all of your experiences with dreams and visions in them. I have always battled with dreams vs dreams with actual truth to them (usually not realizing said dream was a vision until much later on)
My question to you all is in regards to what I can best describe as "daydreaming visions" .. I have those a lot. Is that a thing? I'll be going about my day or sitting down for a few and my mind drifts to the most random thoughts. For a long time, I chalked them up to an overactive brain but as I get older, I've started to realize that a LOT of those "daydreaming moments" are actually something that happens in real life.
I distinctively remember the first time this happened. I was in high school, my parents were home for the day. I drove to school, got out of my car and "daydreamed" that something earthly dangerous was going to happen. So I got back in my car and went home, despite knowing how much trouble I'd be in for skipping class. I pulled into the driveway, my mom comes out and asks me why I'm home. I tell her something bad is going to happen. The minute I said it, we experienced the huge 6.8 earthquake here in washington.
I was so confused and scared that my dream vision came to be, but over time learned to deal with it. I guess my question to all of you is, what is that state called? It's almost like deja vu mixed with a fantasy story you make up in your head when you're bored, so deciphering what is real or what is to be, vs "was that just a made up story?" Or "maybe it's deja vu" is really hard for me to dissect. How do you do this? Is this common? When we're you able to instinctively know the difference?
Sometimes those daydreams are exactly that for me..just daydreams and nothing ever comes to be. Unfortunately, there's been times when I've scared myself into a state of fear from a vision -absolutely certain it was a real one - and nothing ever came to be. Other times, I'll brush them off and sure as shingles, it happens. :-/
You're in the right place!
What you are calling daydreams sound, for the most part, like visions.
One of my earliest visions similar to yours happened to me in high school also. I was sitting in history class. I remember it was world history, it was March. I was sitting in the row closest to the windows, I was in the 4th seat back. I was bored and my mind drifted as I gazed out the window to the trees growing out of the sidewalk. I "daydreamed" that my stepmother was giving birth to a baby boy. My dad and stepmom lived far away, and I was only able to visit them over summers, so I ascribed it at the time to wishful thinking. About a month later, on a routine phone call with my Dad, he told me my stepmom was pregnant and would deliver in May. I told him it would be a boy (this was before modern prenatal testing). He laughed, but in May that year, my stepmom had my half brother!
I don't know what to tell you about how to decipher visioning from just imagination. As I've gotten older, I pay more attention to them. Many of our visions don't come to pass. Some say it's because the timeline shifts somehow, or a random even occurs that changes an outcome. Sometimes it is just your imagination, and only time can reveal that (or as Freud put it, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar").
I hope others weigh in here for you with their experiences. Welcome and peace.
I had one quite vivid, prophetic dream about the 911 attack. I can't recall whether I've had any others.
Can anyone recommend ways in general to better remember your dreams? Over the past few years, I tend not to remember most of them after I wake up. What I generally sense is a physical or emotional feeling connected to the dream -- and I often sense that my dreams have been quite active, and sometimes I feel worn out. Maybe that has to do with the collective stress we all are feeling now. Sometimes (but not often), l may suddenly remember small pieces of a dream later that day. It's very strange.
Lovenendures, I like your idea of dreaming with intention.
Best way to remember dreams is to keep either a notebook and pen OR a voice recorder by your bed. As soon as you wake up, write down or record your dreams as best as you can remember them. Even if they're not all prophetic, many of them can give you personal insights you may find helpful. And then there are the dreams that I call "memory dumps" - literally the brain is just sorting through the day's input. I laugh when I get those, because I get that they're necessary somehow, but they're so freakin' banal.
I like your suggestions, Laura. My brain tends to be very foggy when I first wake up and I tend not to remember anything about the dream. But maybe if I do as you suggest, with the intention of remembering more of them, then that could work. It's certainly worth a shot. Thanks!
Tiger-n-Owl I am curious to see what information you were trying to show us with the link... I hope you can email it to Jeanne so we can all see it. By all accounts I've heard or read Mueller is a very honorable and wise man and perhaps he could be the oak tree. I hadn't thought of it that way and it is an interesting way to put it.