Oh my goodness! I just have realized that there is also a close person in my life right who is in the situation to hide a very deep despair and made an especially bad decision involving a social suicide as a consequence.... 😱 and that I also should send her unconditional love and the confirmation to stay alive - from a distance... Oh my goodness!!! The scales just now fell from my eyes! Whew....
@raincloud occasionally I have “seen” something that does occur… on 2 levels… the outer world and in my own circle of relatives and friends.
I will follow the wonderful, loving insight of @joy and (send) your relative:
much "unconditional love" and the "confirmation for an inner decision to stay alive (also socially and professionally)
Today t was talking about if he would make it to heaven. I think deep down he may want to leave. He is a lonely man losing his power and feeling the full weight of the whole world's anger. Perhaps a workplace and social suicide has ocurred already.
@ghandigirl My intuition tells me, T is thinking: "I may need to leave soon, yet I might be given the Bowl of Sorrows instead of entering Heaven's Gate. If I only could, I'd make a deal with God...."
Well, T's deal with God would definetely not be about to swap the places of men and women like Kate Bush would suggest...
It is more like: "Do you think the nobel price for peace is enough of a deal to let me enter Heaven's Gate, God? Especially if I have earned the nobel price in a quite weird and odd manner that would make you laugh out loud?"
It seems like you're pretty convinced that T faces a serious mental condition. I just found a German article that obviously shares this belief, but it describes it very diplomatically and indirectly. I think that makes it sound pretty funny. This newspaper isn't a satirical magazine at all. It's usually the go-to source for serious political news. I hope you enjoy my translation of the humorous and indirect description in the title.
In a heartwarming display of optimism, US President Donald Trump declared Washington safe, though the lawn was in a bit of a mess.Trump had actually wanted to patrol the US capital with security forces. Instead, the president delivered a monologue that focused extensively on lawn care.
@joy I am thinking many German readers will interpret the article as tongue-in-cheek, especially as the paper's usual presentation is well-known.
I am looking forward to the day when there is no mention of t, in any paper, in any format.
@seabreeze Thank you very much for your reply. I understand that you've had your fill of reading about him. I felt the same at times!
As for German newspaper readers, they certainly see this title as an insider joke. Culturally speaking, it's a very special kind of title that reveals a lot without saying anything directly at all. As you may know, our language culture is usually pretty straightforward, also using often a bit harsher words than some other cultures would. Typically, our language culture is direct, and that's why this title is so special. Completely untypically for German, it says everything to those who read it, without saying anything directly at all. Not saying anything directly att all! This makes this title really pop and stand out for German readers. Therefore, the content of the title that everyone understands without any direct words at all is like underlined for German readers. Iit is not a tongue-in-check, because even a tongue-in-check would still have some sort of directness, I think 😂
@joy Ich liebe die deutsche Sprache. 😀 (Drei monaten en Wien)
This may or may not be transpersonal-- but it is strange.
I dreamed I was out west somewhere (this is a common setting for my dreams. but...)
There was a small moon that was located over the area I was in. This moon was in stationary orbit over the area. There was a transport that would take tourists up to the moon, where they could enter a dome that contained Earth atmosphere. I went up to the dome with several family and friends. Within the dome there was a beach and other water features. There were bathhouses for changing and showering off after visiting the beach. Some of our party got separated and we were frustrated trying to locate each other when it was time to leave.
Occasionally, visitors to the dome could view eclipses of the sun. I do not know what celestial object was eclipsing the sun-- but I don't think it was Earth. Maybe another moon?
I have weird dreams nearly every night. Many of them do involve trying to get into a changing room or take a shower, but this was a really unusual setting.
Any comments?
@ana I would interpret your dreams of trying to shower and/or change as indicating your negative feelings about our current president and government and your inability to identify with them. The moon in your dream may have represented a potential new home, and a fresh start, but when you lost track of your companions, you realized it wasn’t “home.”
Last night I dreamed I was at an intersection and it was raining hard off and on, with water pooling along the roads. I immediately recognized it as Corpus Christi, TX, where I visited regularly when I was growing up.
Then I saw the sidewalk to my right filled with hordes of people, an unending stretch of people continued to stream by. They were walking away from the storm and I heard the word "exodus."
It felt like this was a vision of the future some years from now, not something that will happen in the coming hurricane season. But I'm not absolutely certain about that.
@ana The moon can mean the unconscious and something emotional, and dreams often have multiple meanings which can all be true. The psyche is clever that way.
When other people interpret your dream they are telling you how it felt for them, which means their psyche found meaning for them in your dream, which may or may not be the meaning for you. If it was a transpersonal dream, then it's for all of us.
If there was a personal meaning, and there usually is, I'd say it involves unconscious unresolved feelings about a time spent out west where the moon was in stationary orbit - i.e., some deep seated emotions that are calling for your focus at this time.
Transpersonal meaning: You might be tapping into entrepreneural (probably Musk) plans for how to make a bundle from colonizing the moon. As of now, there is no regulation of land on the moon. So an entrepreneur can put up a dome and create a Disney World on the moon for the uber wealthy to pay for the space ship trip and the experience there. Compared to Stockton Rush's Titan venture, which cost passengers $250,000 each, I can only imagine the cost of the moon adventure.
@jeanne-mayell Hi Jeanne- and thanks for your interpretation.
I have spent a lot of time in the western US-- mostly New Mexico, Colorado, and Montana-- also a fair amount in Utah and Arizona. (Both for geology work and for vacations.) My current S.O. is from Montana and Colorado (and our relationship is turbulent). When I was eight years old, my family took a trip out west and when we got home I announced to my parents that we should immediately move to Colorado because it was so beautiful. Of course, they just looked at me sideways like I was nuts and never even tried to explain why it wasn't feasible. So yes, I do have many unresolved feelings about these places . In fact I might consider moving there if it were not for family members here who rely on my assistance (One extremely elderly mother, and the other person is getting to the elderly bracket and also autistic.)
It didn't occur to me that the part about visiting a moon (not THE moon, but a smaller one) could have related to Musk and other zillionaires space aspirations. But it makes sense.
@ruby Hi Vesta, I have recently been mulling fantasies about getting in my car and driving off to Canada or some wilderness and leaving all my responsibilities behind so that part is true. I'm at the end of my rope with some of the people involved.
What an interesting and complex dream! I am struck by the theme of “change.” I agree with Jeanne, all of the symbolism relates to you and your frame of reference. Just some thoughts….As I recall and your post indicates, you have a background in science and maybe climate change? I wonder if leaving this planet suggests the need for an alternate one, as Stephen Hawking suggested. Also, you are frustrated with the “changing:” is it too slow? too difficult? Can’t find a means to accomplish it? And what can you connect with the idea of showering? Cleansing? Shedding the old?
I am connected to the western US as well. When I think of it, I think of open expansive skies and a sense of freedom. Just some ideas to play with to interpret your own dream.