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@allyn  Oh Allyn I so feel your pain!!!! I share the same fears..yesterday? There were several fights at the high school.... between "trumper students" and students of "other than white" ! High school children.. who should be having enough on their plate to deal with attending school in person without implementing proper covid-19 prevention measures. Sadly it is no wonder Georgia has one of the highest rates currently. :-(  I am afraid my vote will be made to not count... flipped somehow.. I can guarantee you I will make it anyways. I see him and his children screaming and telling lies...in violation of the Hatch Act... no ones stops them... holds them accountable... I just do not get it?!?!?! I am feeling overwhelmed and afraid we may not make to November the 3rd to vote! The CDC ordered to lower testing - change its guidelines,the 180,000 DEAD and count rising, little or no mention of the wild fires, the Cat 4 nearing 5 hurricane slamming in to our shores, the indoctrinated white youth males going and KILLING for Trump's rhetoric... I am so scared and having a hard time hanging on in this redder than red state. Sending you hugs and standing with you...WE are not alone... WE have this forum to reach out and get support and see other view points . For that? I am truly grateful. Much Light and Love @allyn... we MUST hold on.



   
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Allyn and All light working friends,

I understand what you are saying about being in a red leaning area. I moved 3 yrs ago from my beloved Colorado back to Midwest (Iowa/Illinois area) where I grew up as a kid. I don’t fit in. I can be rather outspoken so it has been challenging. I have learned to lean back and not talk politics unless I have to. I have other friends from out of state that think like me and others that still like the grifter. My close friend (that supports grifter) from down southern US and I discussed the situation on the phone 2 days ago. I try not to talk about it but she often wants to talk her points. I love her and she has good heart but I do not want to try to explain why I think this administration is BS. But the discussion happened anyway. I was not happy with what she was saying so interjected and said” my friend in the end everyone already knows who they are voting for. I do not like the way the country is going. Many people do not like this guy. I am in a small red town. I feel unsafe no matter which way this election goes at this point because of this administrations message that all liberals are horrible and they should hate someone like me. This puts people like me in danger!! No matter what happens Trumps people will be angry as this is already a depressed area, I see food supply problems coming and climate change. People will want to blame someone when this happens.” She assured me she doesn’t hate anyone and I agreed, but tried to help her understand many of his followers will not be like her. I told her in the real world here in a small red Illinois town, I now have to protect myself and watch my back. They will want revenge or will be more empowered after election.  This is not the United States we all hope for. By end of conversation I think she was able to hear me, that Trumps words and message will have consequences. We always agree on health care for everyone so that is the point I go back to. I have others, even family, that don’t speak to me anymore so I just don’t want to loose anyone else. I try to stay strong but it sure is tough with the grifter in chief. 

So happy we can all be here with each other on this site. It has helped very much and I love reading each day how my light working friends are doing world wide. Thank you all.
Tiger-n-Owl (Michelle M)



   
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I cannot imagine what all of you are going through. Especially living in red states. @tiger-n-owl, @allyn and @ journeywithme2 even though what has been described sounds like pure horror to me, you can get through this.

Do not be cowered or ruled by fear. I always tell my 6 year old daughter that good always wins. I  have to believe that too. Although that statement is quite black and white, do not loose faith in that hyperbole or we'll surely be lost and that is not an option.

Stay strong. ❤️ 



   
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I have a question and a comment.

This is a difficult question, but I need to face reality (for a change). I know Hillary won the popular vote so this is a toughie, but did anyone see her being inaugurated, happy, bright lights, anything? 

Second - this is important. Trump may win but that doesn't mean the Senate and House will be at his beck and call, and that he will be allowed to play dictator.  It's still bad because he can load the Supreme Court and put in more conservative judges. 

For me, and I've tried to explain this to people - to be my age and have this happen is a disaster.  I don't know how many years I have left - I could have a lot, could have a little - in any case, I won't get to live in a country where his damage has been undone. When I say I, I mean all people in my generation.  Everyone saying we'll live through it - I guess that's true. But there's living and there's living. 



   
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@allyn   A major part of the problem is the greed of far too many pastors. Donald Trump has promised to do this, this, this, for the Christian churches. In the minds of many wealthy pastors this means more and more money in the pockets of the pastors. A huge problem that these pastors conveniently ignore is that Donald Trump sees the Christian community as useful idiots. He panders to them only because he needed their support to first gain, and then perpetuate his power. If Donald Trump succeeds in his goal of destroying our democracy and making America a totalitarian dictatorship, he will turn against his friends in the Christian community once he no longer needs them to maintain his power. His entire life has been all about lying, cheating, and bullying to get what he wants. The type of election cheating we are likely to see the most of is blatant voter suppression to keep millions of Trump's opponents for getting their ballots cast and counted.



   
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@suspira44,

I did not see Hillary being inaugurated last cycle but I did see Trump absolutely GLOWERING; standing there with his arms crossed and worst look on his face. I interpreted that to indicate that Hillary had won (which she basically did). Looking back I see it as Trump winning a Pyrrhic victory at best. Yes, he became president but it will ultimately cause him to lose his (borrowed) fortune, lifestyle, and reputation. At the same time he is dragging the Republican party down with him and breaking the political power of the evangelicals. 

Many people are afraid that he might try to steal the election in the same way the Tilden/Hayes election was stolen (have the House overturn the Electoral College). I can't see that happening for a number of reasons including that elected Republicans (Republican leadership) are as sick and tired of him as the rest of us. Besides, the Dems have a good chance of taking the Senate this cycle and if Trump were to force his way back in he would be immediately impeached and convicted. 

One of my personal predictions from earlier this year was that many Senate Republicans would be wishing they had gotten rid of him when they had the chance in January. I feel very strongly that that is indeed the case (and we will hear about it later).

Michael Cohen's book is about to come out and it will detail not only his indebtedness to Russia but that he is basically broke. Unfortunately for Trumpworld Cohen has the literal receipts and hundreds of hours of audio. It will be too big to be ignored.

We are not out of the woods by any stretch but we have a clear path and I am very confident that this national nightmare will be coming to a close soon.



   
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Posted by: @paul-w

@suspira44,

I did not see Hillary being inaugurated last cycle but I did see Trump absolutely GLOWERING; standing there with his arms crossed and worst look on his face. I interpreted that to indicate that Hillary had won (which she basically did). the Dems have a good chance of taking the Senate this cycle and if Trump were to force his way back in he would be immediately impeached and convicted. 

@Paul-w, exactly what I saw.   I never saw her on the Inaugural platform, just a vision of Trump glowering and holding a bunch of sticks with ax-head tied together. I assumed she had won but Trump was still around, leading a successful effort to destroy her.  I didn't feel she'd last in the job.

I had to research the thing I saw Trump holding to figure out what it was.  It turned out to be a "fasces", a Roman symbol of nationalism and fascism popularized by Mussolini. Most of the people I taught to remote view the Inauguration had seen Hillary, so even though I didn't see her Inaugurated, I thought they must be correct.  Later I realized they were viewing her in the run-up to the election and I should not have relied on other people's visions.  I've learned to stick to only what I see. 

Just now I closed my eyes to remote view the Inauguration and see a vulture perched over the platform.  As I keep viewing and asking to see more, I see a straw man standing wobbly on the platform with closed eyes and a mindless smile. He is wobbly.  I had to look up "straw man" to understand the vision.  It means that a fake argument will be made to obscure the real issue.  

Interpretation of my vision: They are planning to break the election system and refuse to certify the votes, then Trump and enablers claim that to save the country from not having a leader, he has to stay in office. I am not saying this is what will happen, but I do feel that is one of their schemes. 

The vulture is likely awaiting the death of democracy.  It doesn't mean democracy dies, but the vulture is there waiting. Our democracy now hangs in the balance and we need to work to keep it alive. We are meditating now weekly and sending light to our election system. 

I invite more people to join our Wednesday Circle of Light events to send light to the election. 

P.S. In a past meditation I did not see the Inauguration, but for February 2021, I saw Biden with a black woman assisting him.  I thought he was the president. In this same past meditation, I did see during the Inauguration, a large group of people in tall black top hats standing around.  I felt they were the Lincoln Project, republicans for Biden.  

 



   
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I could never see Clinton's inauguration, just Trump. I can see the Biden/Harris inauguration, but there's some Trump event at the same time. It's like he's trying to still be inaugurated on 20 Jan 2021 and trying to use the courts to seize power claiming the election is fraudulent or trying to set up a shadow government. It's bizarre. I don't think we'll have a secure government, or at least there will be legal challenges until 2022. 



   
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@allyn

I could have written your post almost word for word, and I too live in a red state (Texas).

The thought of November fills me with anxiety. I'm not worried about Biden winning but I am very worried about fraud and accusations of fraud, Russian interference, and so on. And I am desperately trying to get through this with all of my family relationships intact. My siblings and I are divided.



   
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@5leafclover

Truly beautiful post, and you nailed it.

As a Christian, one of the things that has sickened and infuriated me is the religious majority support behind this asshole who violates every tenet of Christianity on a daily basis.



   
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@jeanne-mayell interesting vision. What if the vulture means Biden won’t finish his term? I pray this does not happen. But he could be the “straw man” or symbol we voted for but not ultimately the one who is ruling. His eyes closed and smiling may mean he is at peace.



   
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@jeanne-mayell, @paul-w, @pamp,

In the past I’ve posted that I never saw Hillary in the Oval Office.  Instead, I would always see a dark, grey mist.   I was very nervous the night of the election, but my rational mind refused to believe that T could win.  Now I see Biden/Harris winning, but .... I'm feeling uneasy about it.

Jeanne, do you remember about a year ago, some of us saw Pelosi temporarily sharing WH governance with someone else, maybe a Republican?  The shared governance thing really confused us, but now it’s making some sense.  I believe all of the legislatures in the swing states are Republican.  If we don’t win by a landslide so that T. can claim the election was "stolen," he can pressure those Rep legislators to put forward contested slates of Electoral College electors, thus creating further chaos and confusion.  Of course his intention is to nullify the election.

If this occurs, there are two possible legal scenarios, which I pulled from a Newsweek article:

“(1) The Supreme Court could potentially disqualify electors on the basis that their state's results are too unclear to certify before the December 14 statutory deadline when the Electoral College must meet, thereby throwing the entire election to the U.S. House of Representatives for resolution, as set out in the 12th Amendment to the Constitution; or

(2) the Supreme Court might point to the Electoral Count Act of 1887, which states that the House and Senate together will decide which Electoral College electors are to be legally recognized, thus requiring Congress to decide which Electoral College slate in each of the contested states to certify.”

 

@lowtide addressed this in an earlier posting with that Newsweek link:

https://www.newsweek.com/how-defeat-trumps-plan-overturn-election-opinion-1526242?amp=1

 

 



   
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I can't see who will be president, but I do have a general unease, a kind of sick-to-my-stomach feeling I had during the lead up to the 2016 election. I hope it's nothing.

When I just try to think logically, I think Biden must win because I don't see how the US recovers from a second trump term. Everything will be gone -- the courts, the post office, Social Security, free elections. He's brazen and unleashed now. A second term will be terrifying.

Jeanne's prediction is that democracy doesn't die, but it does take a beating. I don't see how it can do anything but die if there are another four years of this guy. The beating democracy is taking is happening now. More is unthinkable.



   
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@deetoo Trump mentioned something like this recently.  I try to tune him out so I didn't watch the whole thing.  He said something to the fact that if we don't know who the winner is then Pelosi would be in charge.  And we can't have that right?  

Something jogged my memory at that point, something I read here.  All these things happening, we never thought could ever be, but they may be.  We have to keep looking up, with light and hope.  It's scary and sometimes uncertain, but I'm not giving into the fear.  It's bad juju.

Peace dear friends - God willing we will be done with the filth soon.  Then someone's got to really Chlorox the White House.  And lots of Sage too!

 



   
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@febbby23, that's so funny you mentioned cleansing with sage.  I was thinking that very thing yesterday!  Maybe once he's defeated and gone, we can do a virtual group cleansing ceremony with white light and sage?   



   
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My boss actually shared this with me - it was pretty amusing! I had never seen it.

Veep: Julia Louis-Dreyfus & V.P. Joe Biden | White House Correspondents' Dinner (2014) | HBO 

 


   
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I'm worried about a Clorox and sage shortage. ? 

I think what people are seeing surrounding the election is that Twitler does not plan on going gentle into that good night. He has been and is exploring every option for staying in power. Losing the election will bring to fruition his two biggest fears, going to prison and being perceived as a loser.

Only his knuckle-dragging supporters can't understand that he is prepping for an authoritarian coup, and those who do understand that don't care.

I have to believe that top brass Dems know this and are preparing for it.



   
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@jeanne-mayell,

"I did see during the Inauguration, a large group of people in tall black top hats standing around. "

An alternative explanation could be past presidents coming to make sure Biden is inaugurated and democracy lives on.



   
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@fran No, Frannie, I gently want to explain that the vision I had did not mean that, and I can explain why.  Sometimes, when I share a vision I don't explain it well.  It is not about Biden and the ill health that so many Republicans and dark political operatives are spreading around the Internet.  His health is fine.  He's a gentle man who has been through a lot. If anyone's health is in danger it is Donald Trump who lives on junk food, is overweight, and sweats like a pig. 

 



   
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Also @fran, I need to explain the straw man better so you will see it the way I saw it.  The man was not at peace and he was not a human.  He was fooling people and he was wobbly and fake. I heard the word, "straw man" and had to look up the definition.  The definition of straw man is a phony distraction that attempts to fool people into ignoring what the real issue is. 

Biden is not a phony and would not wobble.  His presidency would never be a straw man and that wouldn't fit the definition of straw man.  Trump is a phony and can wobble.  He knows he can't be a legitimate president but is capable of trying to create a straw man excuse for staying in office,  and weasel his way into staying president.  I do not think he will get away with it if this is what he does.  He will try, but it would amount to a coups d'etat if he tried and the country would go crazy against him. 

I think the vulture was looking at the straw man, Donald Trump, whose time is limited and cannot distract his way into staying in office.



   
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