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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@natalie That's okay, thanks. @coyote has been so helpful in making me aware of how easy it is to demonize groups of people we don't know when we are hurt. I've seen psychics demonized ever since I started giving readings, every ethnic group and now whites are demonized as well as boomers, and when Trump took over, I started talking that way about all republicans. We are better than that here.

 



   
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(@triciact)
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@natalie

I read your posts and I am a boomer (turning 60 this month which I hate lol) but I'm not offended. If anything I have complete compassion for your feelings and frustration. I try hard (not easy to do) to not categorize folks and trust me, it was this forum and folks like @coyote that taught me not to - to check myself.

The same fears and frustrations you have about this country and others I know I have too. I want Bernie and Elizabeth to lead the way, with a new BLUE senate. That's the only way we will have drastic change. So constructively I try to encourage my non-blue friends to see what I see by showing them facts. I might only change one person out of 20 minds but it's my "one". If they end up with Biden, perhaps Biden's VP pick will end up being the change agent.

We are here for you, so don't despair. This forum is full of very enlightened "boomers" and we have enough patience to go around (most of the time! lol) ? 

 



   
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(@natalie)
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I am sitting at my desk at work as some of my coworkers behind me are disparaging Elizabeth warren. Saying all sorts of horrible things like she's shrill, she's not for the people etc... I start quietly crying at my desk and stare at a pair of scissors nearby wondering if I should stab myself with them. 
This is the place I am in. I am already on medication and I have a therapist and this is where I am. I don't want to alarm anyone and I am so so sorry for being mean. I'm not going to post again, I am in a very bad place and need to step away for everyone else's peace of mind.

I am sorry I ever came on here and said the things I did.

 



   
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Thank you @jeanne-mayell . After a few moments of anger I am now at peace. It feels like things have been set in motion. For me, the tension feels released. That was the most uncomfortable part for me. I will keep fighting my fight, but I am also at peace with it. I think things will turn out for the best, though it may be messy.



   
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@triciact

a Boomer right here with you.. turning 65 this year. @natalie Know that you are loved and supported - just as you are...holding space for you as you work this through...don't throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. I am definitely not offended by you having your opinions and speaking of them. The only way to grow and learn is to speak our Truths and grow in our Journey. Our truths..change along the road as we travel down it. Depression is a hard thing to live with and not a lot help out there that understands and sees one through it. My severe depression was part of my growth and an auto-immune endocrine imbalance... Hashimoto's Thyroid disease - not diagnosed and treated for over 50 years. Google Hashimoto's and depression - you will see there is a lot out there about it. Often severe trauma in childhood can trigger the auto-immune disease to start - as well as there being a genetic component. Remember... compassion for self and loving and forgiving self is the first step to wholeness and creating health from dis-ease  - disease.  I am no longer depressed since getting proper treatment and doing the work I needed to heal my Inner Child. I AM saddened by so much that goes on in this world... mankind's inhumanity to self and world... I see that until we become uncomfortable enough to act on the change that is needed we tend to stay static in place... it takes all of us.. to bring forth the changes that are needed....each..and ...every...one... of ....us.

 



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@Natalie We love you, Natalie. Sending healing light. So sorry to add to your stress.

 



   
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@natalie

Please don't despair, we are here for you. I am sending you love and light and are asking my angels and guides to do the same. ❤️ ❤️ ? 

 

 

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@jaidy

That may be true, however, Bernie might not follow the traditional routes. I saw this video by Robert Reich and thought it was very good.  He talks about Bernie and Elizabeth as a team. I personally would vote for either of them as a team in a second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoJ7V5dfBYQ

 



   
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I know there are Bernie supporters here, so please remember what I am going to say is my view on things.

I do not like Bernie Sanders.  I think he is the Trump of the left. Many of his supporters threaten violence, and say they are keeping "lists" of his non-supporters.  He doesn't denounce them.  I'm not at all convinced he would refuse Russian interference to help his campaign.

Eric Garland has an excellent thread yesterday on Twitter dissecting the 600 pages of Mueller's report.  He writes, "Now the BERNIE SANDERS CONNECTION: his 2016 campaign manager Tad DEVINE. Devine had working (sic) on Ukraine issues as far back as 2005-2006 and returned to get pro-Putin YANUKOVYCH ELECTED IN 2010."

"The key point I think has been neglected:Bernie's manager Devine didn't just work for the same pro-Putin candidate-Paul Manafort was the *prime contractor. Devine worked for Manafort in Ukraine. On behalf of Putin."

"Bernie's manager Tad Devine actually drafted the victory speech for Yanukovych, who promised not to join NATO and turn toward Putin."

We would be as much under Putin's control under a Sanders presidency as we are with Trump.  Google Sanders ties to Russia and read.  Just make sure it's a legitimate source (not right-wing propoganda)

Go to Garland's twitter feed and read the report and the commentary.  It's not conspiracy theory; it's all there in black and white. It's very long but well worth the read.

If Sanders gets the nomination, and I am praying so hard he doesn't, the country will be further divided, and God forbid Twitler's still in the game at election time, I do think he will lose to T.

I'm not anti-progressive.  I think progressives have some excellent ideas and I support many of them. We definitely need more young, intelligent and driven people in politics.

But Sanders is not the answer.  He will cost us thousands of moderate and independent voters, and the stakes this election are simply too high. After he won Nevada, Russian Twitter feeds started saying things like, Good night, America. Russia and Twitler both want Sanders to be the nominee.  There's reasons for that.

 



   
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Adding this, from Garland, also in Mueller's report "Tad Devine's last communications about political work in Ukraine for Putin were in *2014*-within a YEAR of launching Bernie Sander's campaign. GET IT YET?"

DEVINE is still taking his Putin work in June 2014, and in April 2015 Bernie Sander's has launched, early.So has Trump. GET IT?"

The whole thread really is an eye-opening must read.  If Jeanne gives permission, I will try to post the link.



   
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