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Understanding Collective Trauma to Connect to People from the other end of the political spectrum

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@lowtide  

Nope. And even in the unlikeliest chance that he is, he'd have to do A LOT of penance. In typical rich entitled white guy manner, it's all whoops, my bad, but let's have a fresh start. Well he should not get one. There are things that are not forgivable and people who should be shunned. Not everyone deserves a second chance. Poor Charles Koch will be OK without the progressive movement, not that he cares about it. This is all PR and other darker ulterior motives.



   
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@lynnventura @lowtide. His words mean nothing other than that he's realized he's been beaten and wants to be let onto the winning team. He is a snake.

Penance is something you do, not something you just give lip service to.

He would have to stop funding conservative causes and donate all his money and his company to repairing the damage he has done. 

His brother David was allowed to be on the board of one of the public broadcasting companies.  He contributed to some earth documentaries that carefully managed to avoid the subject of climate change. David Koch's money should not have been allowed into a public broadcasting group. His goal was to subtly infiltrate liberal thinking.I had not read this article until now, but I felt from watching the shows he sponsored that Koch's money had influenced PBS and NPR.



   
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If the food nutritional requirements are met, shouldn't we be giving a choice to people using WIC?  It empowers them more and limits them less. It shows greater respect to the individual.  It also gives smaller brands who have good nutritional content a chance to impact everyone in society and build up their businesses, instead of only benefiting huge corporations.

I was enrolled in WIC for about 3 months after my son was born over a decade ago. It was one of the most backwards programs with extremely strict brand & sizing requirements - down to the ounce! Like the program would allow for say 12 oz. of peanut butter; you had to get either the pre-approved brand or store generic version, and if the packaging changed to 11.8 oz. it would no longer qualify for WIC benefits.

Baby formula was even worse! The area we live in is generally impoverished, so many mothers were on WIC. Because of the extremely strict sizing requirements for everything in the program, it was actually creating an artificial shortage of baby formula in those can sizes. If your child needed a different brand/type of formula other than the default “choice,” you had to get a doctor’s note and apply for an exception.

I found the whole thing grotesque, between the ridiculous brand & sizing rules and the holier-than-thou attitudes of the various social workers involved. It’s like the program had been twisted around from actually helping low-income mothers feed their kids into a strange form of punishment for us, and that we should have to grovel & prostrate ourselves for the most basic scraps of human dignity. I dropped the program after 3 months cos I couldn’t get an exception for my kid’s formula - apparently “this brand gives my child horrible colic” didn’t count as a medical reason? We really could have used the extra food at the time, but our dignity & peace of mind just wasn’t worth all the hoops we had to jump through.



   
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@jeanne-mayell Enjoyed the sense of relief from the election win, yet as more and more of these stories emerge, am back to banging my head against the wall.  



   
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I read the article about Koch after reading the wonderful angelic affirmations. So I guess my head was in an expansive space.

I refuse to bang my head against the wall or lose hope. We of all people cannot give in to despair.

 



   
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@theungamer We are finally now moving in the right direction. But it took more than a day, or even a year, to build Rome.

According to my 2013 timeline meditation, (the one that showed a crash in 2020 and a slow move back up to 2028), we are going to be rebuilding for another six to eight years.

 I do not believe the Republican Party will win another presidency.  But we have to seriously downgrade them in Congress too.  We have to downgrade them in state governments as well.  Then we get to the starting line to heal the planet. We must keep on fighting.  We must keep getting out the vote.  We must be watch dogs over our world.

We must continue being the angelic troops on the ground.



   
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Some good news: 

1. All those people who voted this year against all odds, are not going to give up. They will keep on voting. They know now that is is worth the effort.  This is a huge shift.

2. We are like the abused spouse or children.  We want to believe in the redemption of the perpetrators, but the abuse leaves us wary, and we must remain wary. We can extend a loving hand without letting anyone bite it off.  We are maturing, becoming wiser.  

3. Angels are telling us love is the way, but that love includes loving, respecting, and believing in ourselves.

4. Trusting our intuition is a big part of loving ourselves. We have to trust our wariness, not override our deepest concerns. 

5. Gaia (the earth) is on the move and she will not let us off the hook until we show we are making changes. This means that Covid isn't going to let up until we have learned to respect nature over money.

6. Our process towards happiness and  fulfillment is the process of rising up, women rising, diversity rising, love rising, wisdom rising. We are evolving. 



   
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Re: The Koch "Legacy"

I wouldn't say psychopaths, but definitely sociopaths, and not so much narcissism as greed. I think this latest expression of remorse is entirely hollow, no awakening to be had. He's just hedging his bets and wants to do something that we call in Italian dialect, 'a mossa. It means someone is putting on an act - they are behaving in a way that appears appropriate or helpful on the surface, but they have a hidden agenda.

I may have mentioned this before, but I hold less hope for change in the Koch dynasty lines than in the Murdoch dynasty.  My BFF - the very conservative and wealthy one - her son has been hanging out with the Koch grandkids since middle school. The are all very "master of the universe" types - very entitled, jetting around on private jets, partying all the time, pay to get into Ivy League schools without real skills or knowledge.

Because the uneducated in this country (whether born here or elsewhere) have been brainwashed to see democratic socialism as equivalent to totalitarian communism, there is little hope of truly putting this country together (I'd say "again" except I don't think it really ever was). The poor uneducated would see the stripping of people like the Kochs and Murdochs of even a small chunk of their wealth as a communist attack and would be greeted with fear and escalating rebellion.



   
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@jeanne-mayellI TOTALLY agree with you Jeanne! I saw one of these climate change documentaries recently and was very surprised to see that Koch was one of the "supporters". I also thought that the documentary skirted the facts on climate change.

I agree that he is a total snake who will stop at nothing to promote his true agenda of making our country into a "libertarian" refuge for the very rich! Despicable!!!



   
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@jeanne-mayell Agree.  45 and the Republican Party NEED TO GO!  I can keep that mantra going indefinitely.  



   
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