I think what they will do is try to just contain Trump long enough to not do the GOP any more damage - and they'll fail. There's no point in impeachment at this point, but if, for any reason he is reinstalled, impeachment will be successful, but they will draw it out. I still don't see the election fully settled (or maybe just the Trump situation, I'm not sure) until 2022.
I would not be surprised if all of his children turn against each other in order to curry favor with Daddy's will - they don't want to be left out like their father’s will.
I just saw the news, and I am shocked.
Apparently there was some sort of event where Trump suuporters staged some boat events (a bit like the Big Orange Navy every Saturday for the Tennessee Vols). Trump supporters decorated their boats with Trump banners and took to the waterways.
In Texas, one group hit some trouble when the waters suddenly became choppy. Many boats were forced to call for assistance, and at least four boats sank.
Thankfully, no reports of anyone being hurt in this incident, although many people are upset about the "big blue wave".
Irony? Or premonition? ?
Hi, I just looked at this, and that pardon business is what I heard today on the phone - along with some other things.
I've tried to stay away from the news. I did join a thing that contributes a nickel every time Trump tweets, and the money goes to a swing state.
I called a friend for his birthday. He asked me if I have a lot of Trump people in my family - I said I didn't think so. Truthfully I don't know. He said his family is loaded with them. Also a mutual friend went to visit her cousins and spent the entire time with her mouth glued shut - apparently they are all huge Trump people. It's so discouraging.
Then he asked me about the horrible protests going on here. So much for staying away from the news. I'm in a suburb - apparently my city has been being ripped apart for days because someone died in the hands of the police.
Then he told me he doesn't know what he'll do if Trump is re-elected. I don't either. I'm in such a depression now.
I saw it the same way. Trump supporters get the "rug pulled out from under them" by a blue wave. Im glad no one was hurt but I did get in a pretty good laugh at it.
Its ironic on so many levels. Blue wave taking them out, they lose something valuable directly because of their support of Trump, mother nature fights back with a sucker punch, etc.
Have faith. We will prevail, one way or another.
Trump will ultimately lose for multiple reasons:
1. The Republican Party is actively trying to keep people from voting. This may have worked in the past, but it won't now. Remember, they tried this earlier this year in Wisconsin when the pandemic was rampant there. They refused to move the election to a safer date, as well as refused to implement safeguards for the people. This was so they could ensure that their candidate for the State Supreme Court could win and ensure a conservative majority.
This did not work. The voters were rightly ticked and risked their lives to vote and elected the Democratic judge by more than ten percentage points.
People will do the same this time. Because we have even more reason to fight back than we did in March.
2. Did you know that each State has their own Secretary of State? If you didn't, don't worry about it, because many people don't know. But each Secretary of State is in charge of counting election ballots.
Why is this important? In Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Minnesota (all swing states that Trump must win based on the current Electoral Map), this position is held by Democrats. So if the race is too close to call, these people would be in charge of the recount in their states. Assuming there are no surprises (the red states vote Trump, the blue states vote Biden, and the swing states are up in the air), Trump will need to win three of the four I mentioned to win the electoral college. But if it comes down to a recount, he will have a difficult time trying to convince these people to cheat on his behalf. This may not seem like much (combined, these states provide about 57 electoral votes), but there are so many more swing states than there are in normal elections, and every small advantage will be implemented.
Also, based on current estimates based on the last few months, if the election was held today, Donald Trump would get about 125 electoral votes outright, while Biden would get 320, with 93 electoral votes being too close to call. Yes, yes. I know that we don't trust polls after 2016. Which brings me to my final point.
3. Trump himself. Trump can't help but keep shooting himself in the foot to the point that there is an actual coalition dedicated to voting him out, which was not present in 2016. While people who opposed Trump could only warn people that he wouldn't be a good president, we now have concrete reasons of why Trump can't stay on another four years (almost 185,000 dead from Covid 19, widespread unemployment, riots in the streets, etc.) Also, we have a group of Republicans who are actively voting against Trump, and THEY AREN'T TRYING TO HIDE IT!!!!! This was not present in 2016 either.
But I bet Trump will continue to make more mistakes and drive people away from him. While I doubt that his base will ever turn from him, I sincerely doubt that he will somehow widen his coalition. African Americans won't vote for him. Native Americans will not vote for him. Suburban women hate his guts. Hispanics, who may not be excited about Biden, are unlikely to vote for Trump in such huge numbers as to make a difference. And the youth vote, if they will make the effort, will certainly ensure a Trump defeat.
So hang in there. We can defeat him. Even when things seem impossible and it feels like he gets away with everything, remember this; If millions of people are protesting against Trump and his policy now (many, many more than Trump ever had at his rallies), do you think these people will stand idly by if Trump tries to steal the election? More to the point, if the Senate is flipped, do you think that a united Democratic Congress will tolerate Trump's presence a second more than necessary?
Also, don't worry about the pardon powers. Trump can only be pardoned for federal crimes, but not state crimes. So if New York files state charges for fraud, there is nothing he can do to save himself. Nothing.
Sending light to you in hopes that you are not discouraged any longer. We will make it. And after November 3, 2020, we will get on this site and share how happy we are that he is gone and what we will do to help heal this nation.
@allyn thank you for the encouragement. I don't know if you remember a slogan about one of the presidential candidates years ago "in your heart you know he's right." It might have been about Reagan. My uncle used to joke about it, that's why I remember it. But in my heart, I do think what you are saying is true. But it's almost like I'm afraid to believe it after the last time. I mean, what the heck happened the last time? It was so apparent he won early on - and people kept saying, well, I want to wait until all the votes are in. OMG.
@allyn thank you for the encouragement. I don't know if you remember a slogan about one of the presidential candidates years ago "in your heart you know he's right." It might have been about Reagan. My uncle used to joke about it, that's why I remember it. But in my heart, I do think what you are saying is true. But it's almost like I'm afraid to believe it after the last time. I mean, what the heck happened the last time? It was so apparent he won early on - and people kept saying, well, I want to wait until all the votes are in. OMG.
It was Barry Goldwater, and the joke was “In your guts you know he’s nuts.”
More to the point, if the Senate is flipped, do you think that a united Democratic Congress will tolerate Trump's presence a second more than necessary?
The Senate may flip, but not enough to get a bulletproof majority to convict on impeachment. There are 13 R seats up this time, and 6 are safe R. Of the other seven, one is leaning D and the rest are too close to call. I'm still hopeful, though. :-)