This thread is part III of the thread that started as (1) Donald Trump Unraveling, then (2) The Great Unraveling and the Great Turning, and now (3) The Great Unraveling & the Great Turning Part III.
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Trump is heading to Wisconsin right now to "talk" to the people (aka-his base). No doubt he will stir up trouble and just make a bad situation even worse.
I am honestly sick of this man.
He spreads poison everywhere he goes. He incites his followers to commit violence on others and yet decries violence from "the liberals." Meanwhile, children are still being separated at the border, our economy is in the toilet, riots and crimes of hate and violence have went up every single year that Trump has been in office, and at least 180,000 are dead from Covid 19 (and probably many more, because I doubt that red states are accurately reporting the death count.)
Explain to me again what this man has to offer any of us?
He is making a Christian nation? Well, based on his actions and the evangelicals' support, they are losing badly. While 26% of Americans older than 65 were white evangelicals in 2017, that was true of only 14% of 30- to 49-year-olds, and 8% of 18- to 29-year olds. Can you only imagine what the number is now?
He has given them power? Last time I checked, abortion was still legal, he hasn't run Jews and Muslims out of the country yet, and the Evangelical church is becoming more and more like a power hungry elite minority that has raised the ire of the rest of the nation, and a reckoning is coming regardless of what the election results are.
We got jobs and a great economy? Uh, what? Yes, the billionaires are still making a killing on Wall Street, but I don't see any economic success with the regular people. Even before Covid 19, there was a ceiling that prevented people from truly rising up from their designated place in society. Yes, they could feed their children. But could the poor become middle class, or the middle class become part of the upper class? I think not.
And healthcare? Enough said.
I am truly scared that Trump will continue to cause trouble no matter what. So I pray each and every single day that he doesn't make it to the November 3, 2020 election date. I pray that something happens that causes him to resign, because I truly want him gone. I want him to go to one of his overseas golf courses and not return. I want his name to live on as a curse and a warning to other politicians and leaders ("we can't have this guy as our representative. He is racist and sexist. We don't want to be 'Trumped'). I feel more and more anxious/hopeful as we count down these last few weeks because I feel in my bones that something is about to happen that will change the course of this election and seal Trump's fate.
I can't explain it, but it is like hearing thunder in the distance. You don't need to step outside to see the rain clouds or feel the wind. You know that it is coming, and you brace yourself for it. I feel that now, that something is coming that will hit our nation and make certain that Biden will win. I don't know what it is yet. Maybe it will be a sudden spike in Covid-19 related deaths in children that were sent to schools. Maybe it will be an incident where another African American gets killed by cops or, God forbid, a child. Maybe a series of hurricanes will hit red states and Trump won't have enough toilet paper to throw at them like he did in Texas a few years ago (not to mention that red states damaged by hurricanes will have trouble voting, in that their own laws used to restrict voting from minorities will be used against them in that many of their residents will be forced to move to other areas and thus may be unable to vote on November 3, 2020, mailing or otherwise.)
[Disclaimer-No, I am not hoping that any of the above comes to pass. But remember that I am from a red state, and I know how red states voters think. The above examples are a few situations that would be enough that a portion of the Trump voters would stay home instead of voting, thus ensuring that Trump will lose.]
Personally, I think that Trump's enemies are waiting in the wings to start releasing damaging information at key points during these last few weeks. Particularly the last week of September (before the first debate and just before early voting starts in some of the states), on or about October 14, 2020 (when early voting starts with many of the other states, including many red states), and just before November 3, 2020 (October surprise, anyone)?
Remember, Trump has many, many enemies that have waited for this moment. They have had four years to collect information. They also know that Trump loves to manufacture crisises so that he can control the media cycle and try to come out as the "hero" at the end. They know the public is full of "Trump fatigue," so they must chose the right times for the information to come out, least the impact on Trump's re-election chances are limited.
I am hopeful that enough outrage will occur by mid October will be so much that Trump will "gracefully" (for him, anyway) resign and leave the Presidency to Pence, which will ensure that Trump is not around to wreck havoc on our election cycle and/or cast doubts on the results. I am hoping he fears being a "loser" more than anything else, and would rather walk out on his own terms instead of being "fired" by America (as well as get a legal pardon from Pence, which would hold up better in the Supreme Court than one that Trump would issue for himself.).
Even his fears of being prosecuted when out of office for state crimes will be relieved in the sense that he can drag out a legal battle for years. This has always been his strategy. He rarely wins in-court battles, and instead is content to wait it out until the resolve of the other party is run down.
Yes, I know Trump loves battles. But remember that he has promised many things before only to back down at the last minute. Remember when he was planning to bring the Taliban to Camp David to announce a peace plan with them? Remember when he sent his troops to Portland, only to withdraw them later? While Trump promises many things, he doesn't always follow through if it seems like he will face huge backlash and thus become a "loser." It is far better for him to leave on his own terms and with the semblance of control over his fate. But if he senses that his plan to call the election results into question will get no support from the military or the population as a whole, he very well may bow out in advance to save face. I sincerely pray with all of my soul that this happens, and that we can enjoy Halloween with tales of witches and ghosts as opposed to worrying about the real-life monster in our midst and wondering how many more children (and their futures) will be "sacrificed" to this man all for the sake of his vanity.
Does anyone else see this as a possibility? I admit that I am not gifted as many people here are, but I do get feelings when I feel that something is coming. Right now I feel like I am about to have surgery (I dread the pain and uncertainty it brings, then feel relieved and happy when it is all over). I wish I could describe it better, but that is what I feel like right now. Something is going to happen that will bring short-term pain and then a period of serenity and calm. Maybe I am feeling the results of the election, but I sincerely hope it is Trump's resignation before the election occurs, so that we don't have to worry through the holidays or into January of next year.
Does anyone else feel as I do?
I understand what you are feeling and wish I could take the anxiety, fear and bile away...
I find the Lincoln Project helpful though. They have well thought out reasoning and research to back up their convictions. Perhaps it will help you too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2b6TNL9mM is a virtual report about his tactics concerning 'law and order'. It's enlightening.
@allyn yes... I feel like you do. Interestingly as I read this : "
Appeals court rules Manhattan DA cannot get Trump's tax returns for now
I hope he resigns before the election. Imagine he lost the election and he is but hurt can you imagine what he and his administration and of course Mitch McConnell will do. They will try to have more of there judges elected. All the havoc he can create with laws and deregulations and immigrants law and those poor kids in the cages the payroll tax and he will steal even more money and the chaos he will create with his demented base. How much stuff they will try to get through before he has to leave. I am afraid the chaos he will cause. This man is not going down quietly. He loves chaos and loves to hurt people. He will try to hurt the whole USA before he leaves and he would say it’s because everyone cheated to have him loose the election. He will blame the USA.
He is increasingly creating and participating in a whirlwind of anger that only augments his energy, like a hurricane over warm waters. Who knows what happens when it finally slams into shore?
Just ran across this tidbit too : https://hillreporter.com/donald-trump-given-september-deadline-for-dna-submission-in-sexual-assault-case-75679
So.. he has two court cases that are not exactly in his favor even as he leans deeper in to QAnon,Boogaloo Bois, Proud Boys and more of the far right subcultures.
Looks like he suffered a series of mini strokes. No one reported that the visit to Walter Reed was a "series of mini strokes" but Trump tweeted today denying just that. Since he was the first to specifically state what was "fake news" that never was reported, its safe to say that is what happened to him.
@mas1581 I completely agree with your assessment. Whatever he says, believe the opposite.
That the typical protocol with him but this one was a little different. He denied a report that never was that specific. This one was the equivalent someone asking you if you happen to have seen their keys and your reply is "I never took your keys out of your purse and threw them in the bathroom wastebasket."
@mas1581 Funny you should mention Trump's mini strokes tweet today. A Washington Post columnist wrote about Trump's unprompted sudden out of the blue tweet today denying his mini strokes like this:
If you’re a parent, imagine you came home one day and said hello to your 9-year-old son, whereupon he shouted “I didn’t break the window in the garage why are you accusing me I didn’t do it!” You’d be pretty sure that he broke the window in the garage. Which brings us to what President Trump tweeted on Tuesday afternoon.
No one in the news media had reported he had mini strokes. And if your doctor denies you had mini strokes and says you are healthy, well, he works for Trump. He cannot tell us the truth, even if he wanted to.
I didnt see the wapo article, but that was exactly my point. Ive caught many a person in a lie because of the specifics they denied something not yet brought up. Trump just did the same thing.
It was brutally obvious to anyone willing to pay attention, but still this is the specific diagnosis we now have. BTW, the strokes we in the left hemisphere of the brain because of the disturbed balance, inability to hold a glass, and slurred speech. Because of the placement of those control centers,, there is also a fairly good chance that one hit his frontal lobe as well, which would cause a decrease in inhibition and increase in violent outbursts depending on exact placement. Those on here saying he has a meltdown publically sometime soon definitely could be on to something. He has had more very recently, as we saw from his "jazz hands" number the other day.
I got the sun+death card in my spread on Trump, which definitely looks like something coming to light that finishes him off. I've seen Kamala Harris on the winning ticket and was pleasantly surprised as visions aren't really my thing BUT I'm solid with my cards and my spread on Trump was terrible for him.
I believe some of the things members of this site have hypothesized are coming true.
I know we have had numerous discussions about Trump and mini strokes. I also believe some of them had to do with his going to Walter Reed. Does anyone else remember this?
Also, I know when Melania went to visit the migrant children (and wore her coat) at least one person here felt she didn't care about the kids end it was a trip just for show. Well, that was confirmed by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff who was on Rachel today discussing her new book. She apparently has audio recordings where Melania shows her true colors regarding these children and her trip.
"That the typical protocol with him but this one was a little different. He denied a report that never was that specific. This one was the equivalent someone asking you if you happen to have seen their keys and your reply is "I never took your keys out of your purse and threw them in the bathroom wastebasket."
Thanks for my out and out howling with laughter after reading this. Boy was that greatly needed and highly therapeutic! X????????
@allyn there’s definitely something strongly brewing. Perhaps his Karma is finally catching up to him. Just like you I do hope he resigns before the elections so that the country can heal from his constant growth of hatred. This anger and hatred is like a cancer and it’s about to burst/erupt. I’m going to pray and hope that he resigns and go away. A lot of us on here saw a helicopter with the orange one on it trying to get away. Counting down the days with hope.
Thank you for sharing another brilliant piece.
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Yes Allyn. I feel the same way and have been sensing more and more revelations coming out since the first of August. It’s more than revelations though. We are in for a wild ride in the months ahead. It would be such an enormous relief if he would just step down, but that would be unusual for a narcissist to back out of the spotlight.
I feel sure most of us have seen the article from the Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
Where Impotus has trashed our military , both active and wounded and retired as well as deceased. You may not like war (really does anyone like it?) but disparage our family members who serve and endure and love our country and die for it and for us? Call them losers and suckers ??? The incident described that occurred on Memorial Day 2017 was especially disturbing. The comments he made about Robert Kelly to his father, John Kelly. What kind of creature would say those things to the father of a fallen Marine?
Having had a son that served this one stings (as all of his thoughtless evil does) as I think of all moms (and dads) with our beloved children in harms way with such callous disregard from one who is their "Commander in Chief" and definitely not worthy of the position.
He has alienated and dishonored our military personnel, harmed and disparaged our people of color and our poor,threatens our elders with loss of social security , women and anyone else living on this planet other than his base of white supremacists. He has caused the deaths of over 185,000 of our people and left some with life-chronic illness from Covid-19 even more in the days ahead.
It should be abundantly clear to everything that breathes what he is and that the only thing that matters to him is money/adulation.How can we make it til 11-3?