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(@deetoo)
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@vestralux, many of us, myself included, have not seen Biden in the WH in 2021. (Fortunately we haven't seen T either.)  Some people believe it has to do with voter suppression, and I'm sure that will occur, but that hasn't been my focus. Ever since Biden announced he was running, my husband and I have both felt this sadness surrounding him. Whenever I watch him, my heart hurts. I've been sensing that something is happening beneath the surface -- something hidden. That is the best I can articulate it. I don't know the significance of the protective band you see, but I have sensed his son, Bo, by his side, supporting him. I know that before he died, his son continued to urge his father to run for President. Running for President is as much for Bo, as it is for himself.

I see Biden as an important transitional figure, leading us out of darkness into the light. I see him as this battle-weary warrior or knight. And I see him passing his sword to someone, but I don’t know who that is, and when that will occur.



   
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(@cdeanne)
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@vestralux

"This is a bold statement, but I believe that Biden's purpose is to open a door so that someone else can finally pass its threshold. In fact, I believe he signed up for this task before incarnating into this lifetime. And I pray he succeeds."

I wholeheartedly agree.  Again, thank you.



   
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(@triciact)
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@vestralux

Wow. THANK YOU so much Vestralux for looking at Biden. I believe it was @Laura-f and @Deetoo who agreed with my feeling a while ago that I couldn't actually see Biden as POTUS next year. I started to also feel that his VP pick is very very important because that person will probably end up taking over very shortly after he would be elected (hoping he is protected and ok until such time).  I have sensed a sadness in Biden so many times, as if he is just running because he HAS to. He would never have done this but for a sense of duty and honor for his country. I believe Joe's "heart" is pure and I always ask for everyone to pray for him and for Nancy, RBG, Adam Schiff, etc.

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Regarding Trump, it feels like something reached its crisis point (his presidency? his health? his ability to control those around him?) this past weekend, and that everything since that point has been/is aftermath. Like something that has to play itself out until the end physically, while energetically the motive force is deflating or almost no longer there. 

 



   
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(@seeker4)
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@vestralux @lawrence  Interesting.  Reminds me of Et tu, Brute. 

If Ivanka had to choose between her husband and her father, she just might go with Jared.  



   
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The Supreme Court has temporarily blocked the release of the Mueller report.

The Supreme Court blocked Congress from receiving grand-jury materials from Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

The court, in a written order Wednesday, granted an emergency request by the Trump administration to keep the materials secret while it mounts a full high court appeal against their release.

The justices said the administration must file its full petition for Supreme Court review by June 1. There were no dissents noted in Wednesday’s order.

I guess we will not be seeing those reports anytime soon. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/supreme-court-grants-trump-request-to-block-disclosure-of-mueller-materials-11590005579



   
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(@ana)
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@seeker4   Most mothers, whatever their faults, would probably go the route that kept their children safest.   Perhaps that would mean siding with the children's father (J).  



   
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(@vestralux)
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Posted by: @seeker4

If Ivanka had to choose between her husband and her father, she just might go with Jared.  

I agree that she would. But this would be about self-preservation. Choosing to protect Jared is choosing to protect herself. 

I do believe she loves him. In fact, I think she very passionately loves Jared (she's a Scorpio with a damaged father/daughter imprint and a desperate need to be the first, best, and most beloved in all things). She probably very passionately hates him too, but she's committed. It's in her energy.

Ultimately, however, I see her choosing to pull that love out of herself like the root of an invasive vine. Before it strangles her. 

 



   
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(@vestralux)
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Posted by: @ana

@seeker4   Most mothers, whatever their faults, would probably go the route that kept their children safest.   Perhaps that would mean siding with the children's father (J).  

Absolutely. Of course, because she's married to Jared, she's legally bound to him in all things. If one or the other of them is at risk of prosecution, asset seizure, and/or sentencing, the other one (and their children) are impacted.

She's savvy. If she believes Jared has incriminated himself beyond his ability to spare them, she'll do whatever she has to do. Status is more important to her (and him) than most people can understand (I certainly can't). They've already fallen from society (barf) in a way they'll never be able to recover, and I predict she'll fight with everything she has to protect against a further financial fall.

 



   
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(@laura-f)
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Re: Ivanka's Choice

Pardon my more cynical view, but I think she would choose Jared because husbands and wives cannot be compelled to testify against each other, so she would know that and know that their kids would have at least 1 parent to care for them if 1 goes to jail. No such protections exist for other familial relationships, she can be compelled to testify against her father, and if she refuses she can be held in contempt and jailed anyway. I think she's just selfish enough...



   
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