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(@lawrence)
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@vestralux

"His energy is always frenetic, of course, but this does feel different, right? And I'd say this part about personal betrayals is especially potent. Perhaps not just from the corners we expect."

Regarding betrayals, heard someone from his family would and it will send him over the edge.

Your health and aura analysis was amazing and right on. Thanks for your clear explanation.

 



   
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@lawrence @tybin @vestralux @jeanne-mayell

Just practically, I've thought there is no way an individual can eat daily cheeseburgers, fries, immerse himself in toxic thoughts, be obese and constantly be raging at his staff without becoming sick physically. I was once in a situation long ago where I had to eat McDonald's hamburgers for about 5 days.  I felt physically ill after 3.  However, I've also wondered whether or not SICK is referring to his mental state getting worse or his physical state.  Thoughts?



   
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@dhyanaji  YES.  About a year ago, Jim Mattis made it public that the military doesn't follow orders blindly, that they were never to follow an order deemed immoral.  I felt at the time that he was trying to send the country some reassurance.  



   
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@seeker4

About a year ago a fancy new McDonalds opened in Times Square. I wanted to see the view from the second floor. So I bought a regular small hamburger and drink. I became very sick for the rest of the day.

I very rarely eat red meat. A few times a year. That being said,  it doesn't make me sick like my adventure to McDonald's did.



   
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Posted by @herondreams:

I still see that big bloated balloon starting to deflate ... 

@herondreams, Yes!  I remember seeing and posting something similar last year.  I saw that big orange balloon in Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.  Although that balloon was being held by a string, it was deflated and dragging on the ground.  People were ignoring it.  Occasionally a gust of wind would temporarily pump it up, but it would immediately fall to the ground.  It make me quite sad yet hopeful.

I too agree with @vestralux's beautiful words:

"I don't wish suffering on him; I wish a reprieve for the world."



   
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He really is just a lot of hot air.



   
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@drolma First those dinners are known for being "roasts".  Considering what T had done to President Obama regarding his birth certificate, I found this a pretty mild rebuke.  Here is the quotation:  "Now, I know that he’s taken some flak lately, but no one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than The Donald.  And that’s because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter — like, did we fake the moon landing? What really happened in Roswell? And where are Biggie and Tupac?”  However, it was Seth Meyers who gave the response that made me wince which was something like being surprised that T was running as a republican because he thought he was running as a joke.  

Second: I never believed that this remark was the inspiration for T to run.  I think he ran because T has a well-documented and extensive record of racism.  He is by the very definition, a racist and cannot stand President Obama's achievements or poll numbers.  



   
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@seeker4, I agree that Obama's comments were pretty mild, and that T was going to run regardless.  Obama's remarks may have added some fuel to the fire, but there was plenty of fuel already there. 

Having said that, I do have mixed feelings about "roasts".  I don't know their history, but I don't believe  they were originally created to ridicule someone.  I think it's now become a measure of some ridiculous "see-I-can-take-it" toughness, while giving some of these roasters permission to unleash their hidden bully.  Some of the insults can be very nasty, demeaning and hurtful.  Following up such an insult with "but he/she is great, really accomplished, I really luv ya!..." is a bunch of BS.  And there's nothing funny about it.



   
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@deetoo  I remember early roasts that were very clever, classy, and funny, but they had boundaries.  It gave the "roastee" opportunities to laugh at himself as well along with getting in a few, also classy and clever, retorts.  I loved them.   But, times have changed, and the most recent one was so vulgar and humiliating that I couldn't finish watching it. If my memory serves, (and it may not), the first roast where I thought it started hitting below the belt was when George W. Bush was in office.  While I don't think he was a good President, I didn't think he deserved the experience at all. It might have been Stephen Colbert who crossed the line as emcee.  However, reflecting on Colbert, he may have been pretty mild compared with two later that I couldn't finish watching. 



   
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@drolma

None of it. He would still be dismantling everything Obama accomplished because the depth of his jealousy and insecurity has no limit. What Meyers said was perfect. He was and is a joke-a horribly unfunny one, and he ran for President because Putin told him to. He knew T. would be the perfect way to divide and weaken America.

Yesterday Pelosi said that she didn't realize T. was so sensitive, given that he's spent his entire life belittling, insulting and demeaning others. She knew, and she knew it was the perfect way to jab him, because she knows that being humiliated is the fear that makes his stomach turn to jelly. His bullying demeanor is his way of hiding his gargantuan insecurity.

Michele Obama said that the one thing she will never forgive T. for is the danger he put their girls in. Another example of how he cares for no one but himself. Given the nastiness that T. hurled at Obama during the entire eight years of his Presidency, what Obama said during that roast was extremely mild.

"If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."



   
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