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(@ghandigirl)
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I am wondering if the fleeing of the Trumps is shown as a skit on SNL or other show.

It 45 leaves he can't grift. Grifters gotta gift. 



   
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(@herukane)
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So when it comes to Biden running again I am of two minds - one, if he runs I hope he wins. But if he doesn't run then I hope its because HE chooses not to do it. That he realizes he got what he wanted done in his term and is happy about that. 

Also I really hope we get Stacy Abrams in Georgia and Beto in Texas. I think they really care about their states and that with them so much good would happen. 

I also hope that we get a greater buffer in the Senate and us maintaining majority in House. I mean look with what has happened with a 50/50 Senate and imagine what we could get with a greater majority. 



   
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(@laura-f)
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@ghandigirl 

They can grift anywhere.



   
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(@laura-f)
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@herukane 

Hoping Biden will not run. He's just too old. Would love to see Pete Buttigieg or Amy Klobuchar run instead. As for Kamala, love her but I don't think she would win on her own merits.



   
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(@freya)
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@herukane   I share all your hopes. I sense that the mid-terms will surprise (and alarm) the GOP and that Biden will make it to the end of his term (I worried about him in the past). He's human. He will make mistakes... but I believe that he will be honored in the future for his calm public response to a cascade of horrific challenges... even if he serves only one term.

Others in this Forum have the sense that Harris will have higher visibility going forward... I share that "feeling." Alll VPs have "assignments" these days. Most don't get much credit for their contributions. Harris is highly intelligent and capable, but I sense that she needs more seasoning and that Obama, Warren, Abrams, a variety of experts and other younger leaders will be there to advise her in the future. Biden didn't appear in my vision of January 2025... which doesn't preclude his being on the inaugural stand, only that Harris was prominent.

If my vision and interpretation are correct and Harris does become "47"... that win may be because collectively the majority of US voters come to believe that the GOP has gone completely off the rails.  Many of us already believe the Grand Old Party should be shut out of power until they awaken from their fever dream and resume their dedication to the rule of law, democratic processes, the ideal of human dignity, and that they once again are able to discern truth from fiction (i.e., they learn to ignore made-up, make-believe BS conspiracy theories for idiots).  Even if I disagree with much of conservative belief and policy... our country needs the counterpoint of at least two contending parties. If the GOP goes the way of the Whig Party... another conservative party will emerge. That's probably what Cheney and other reasonable GOP members will work toward.

Of course, I may be completely wrong about any and all of this timeline.

But even as things seem to be terrifyingly precarious for our American Republic, I am certain of one truth:  the light of a better, more progressive future is growing... that rings loud and clear for me.

We the People need to work for that better future.



   
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(@ana)
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Posted by: @herukane

So when it comes to Biden running again I am of two minds - one, if he runs I hope he wins. But if he doesn't run then I hope its because HE chooses not to do it. That he realizes he got what he wanted done in his term and is happy about that. 

Me too.   And I do hope he does not die in office.  He deserves a nice comfortable retirement.  What a karmic burden the man accepted for this lifetime!  I give him much respect. 



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@Danielle Thank you for the classic Scott poem, which I seem to know by heart.  I wish the same for TFG.  Praying he will run away and fade away. I've seen for years that he gives away state secrets and keeps things pad-locked in a closet.



   
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(@polarberry)
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Regarding the visions of Twitler fleeing, wouldn't he be arrested if he tries it? I'm sure the feds have eyes on him and his family, especially since the documents fiasco.



   
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(@laura-f)
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@polarberry 

Depends. If there is no warrant issued, nope. And if there is a warrant but he hasn't been arrested yet, nope.

There is a lag between grand jury indictment, warrant issuance, and arrest. Garland is going to want all Is dotted and all Ts crossed, so it will be painstakingly slow. Like everything else.

I think the courts can only ask for passport surrenders upon arraignment, to prevent flight risk. I doubt they would deny him bail too.  The judicial system is so broken and he's a rich white man. Best case scenario would be house arrest at Meh-duh-Lardo while he awaits trial.

Also, he has access to private jets. Unlikely he'd be stopped. Frankly, I'm over it. If he ends up dying in jail, great, if he ends up fleeing to another country that he can never leave, I'm ok with that too. Just maybe seize the assets before that happens...



   
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(@polarberry)
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@laura-f 

Apparently, he's rage-tweeting that the FBI took his passports.



   
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